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Re: YouGov/CBS Poll: Trump 49, Cruz 31 in California Primary
« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2016, 01:50:34 am »
Of course. You love Trump.

No matter what I put up, you wouldn't change your view of him.  I think a guy ought to be a member of political party for a few cycles before he calls it "corrupt."  Of course, Trump knows corrupt, I guess, since he's made a career of supporting corrupt Democrat politicians his entire life.

It's just amazing to me how gullible some people can be about an obvious charlatan.

How much money has Cruz, Kasich and Rubio contributed to the Republican Party in the last decade?

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« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2016, 01:59:19 am »

The funny thing is I don't love him. I see plenty of flaws, including a huge ego...an unwillingness to inform himself on some issues...and a penchant for language that alienates people. You WANT to think Trump supporters are mindless dupes, but the truth is we see all of the man's flaws...but the context he exists in matters. And the flaws of his rivals are far greater detriments to leadership, winning, and eventually to governing the country. IMHO, and I imagine in the opinion of nearly all Trump voters/supporters, Trump is simply the best of a set of flawed options.

In comparison, for example, to Hillary or Cruz...the man has a candor, a directness and a businessman's skill to actually get things done...qualities neither of those two possess and which are inherently essential to any successful leader.

Of course, my views above are highly subjective as are yours...and while I disagree with you strongly, I don't feel the need to pretend that you're a mindless dupe of the establishment...or a zombie follower of some peculiar belief system. Maybe you should try considering that those who disagree with you on Trump, are just as smart-savvy-comprehending as yourself...they have just reached a different conclusion operating from the same set of facts that you are.


What we've come to expect...

Another, highly-reasoned, eloquent response, Mesaclone!    :patriot: 

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Re: YouGov/CBS Poll: Trump 49, Cruz 31 in California Primary
« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2016, 02:00:12 am »
What we've come to expect...

Another, highly-reasoned, eloquent response, Mesaclone!    :patriot:

You, sir.....are much too kind!
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« Reply #103 on: April 19, 2016, 02:01:09 am »
The funny thing is I don't love him. I see plenty of flaws, including a huge ego...an unwillingness to inform himself on some issues...and a penchant for language that alienates people. You WANT to think Trump supporters are mindless dupes, but the truth is we see all of the man's flaws...but the context he exists in matters. And the flaws of his rivals are far greater detriments to leadership, winning, and eventually to governing the country. IMHO, and I imagine in the opinion of nearly all Trump voters/supporters, Trump is simply the best of a set of flawed options.

In comparison, for example, to Hillary or Cruz...the man has a candor, a directness and a businessman's skill to actually get things done...qualities neither of those two possess and which are inherently essential to any successful leader.

Of course, my views above are highly subjective as are yours...and while I disagree with you strongly, I don't feel the need to pretend that you're a mindless dupe of the establishment...or a zombie follower of some peculiar belief system. Maybe you should try considering that those who disagree with you on Trump, are just as smart-savvy-comprehending as yourself...they have just reached a different conclusion operating from the same set of facts that you are.

I don't and I can't.  Trump is so obviously incompetent and ill-equipped for the presidency, I see most of Trump's supporters as gripped by a cultic worship of a man who (pretends) to hate the same people and things they do.  And he says he can deal with every problem that comes along in ways that will never pass the Congress but that, nevertheless, enthrall his followers. 

It is telling that his demographic is mostly angry white men who've long felt a grievance against forces that they see operating against them.  Anger is a terrible motivator, yet that's Trump's attraction.  Anger and victimology.

As I said, enjoy the ride until November.
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« Reply #104 on: April 19, 2016, 02:05:40 am »
I don't and I can't.  Trump is so obviously incompetent and ill-equipped for the presidency, I see most of Trump's supporters as gripped by a cultic worship of a man who (pretends) to hate the same people and things they do.  And he says he can deal with every problem that comes along in ways that will never pass the Congress but that, nevertheless, enthrall his followers. 

It is telling that his demographic is mostly angry white men who've long felt a grievance against forces that they see operating against them.  Anger is a terrible motivator, yet that's Trump's attraction.  Anger and victimology.

As I said, enjoy the ride until November.

I see anti-Trumps as hateful, spiteful, ignorant, biased, low information, vulgar and condescendingly arrogant.  Hate is unhealthy.

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« Reply #105 on: April 19, 2016, 02:09:48 am »
I don't and I can't.  Trump is so obviously incompetent and ill-equipped for the presidency, I see most of Trump's supporters as gripped by a cultic worship of a man who (pretends) to hate the same people and things they do.  And he says he can deal with every problem that comes along in ways that will never pass the Congress but that, nevertheless, enthrall his followers. 

It is telling that his demographic is mostly angry white men who've long felt a grievance against forces that they see operating against them.  Anger is a terrible motivator, yet that's Trump's attraction.  Anger and victimology.

As I said, enjoy the ride until November.

Sink.  You know I don't hate anybody.

Trump's appeal to me is strictly getting those 95 million back to work, 40 hours @ week, with private inter-state companies competing for my health insurance premiums.

Also, he's a slap in the face to Washington, DC...business as usual.

And I have no illusions of him building a wall along the Mexican border.    Although, it would be nice.
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Re: YouGov/CBS Poll: Trump 49, Cruz 31 in California Primary
« Reply #106 on: April 19, 2016, 02:10:52 am »
I don't and I can't.  Trump is so obviously incompetent and ill-equipped for the presidency, I see most of Trump's supporters as gripped by a cultic worship of a man who (pretends) to hate the same people and things they do.  And he says he can deal with every problem that comes along in ways that will never pass the Congress but that, nevertheless, enthrall his followers. 

It is telling that his demographic is mostly angry white men who've long felt a grievance against forces that they see operating against them.  Anger is a terrible motivator, yet that's Trump's attraction.  Anger and victimology.

As I said, enjoy the ride until November.

The only real anger I've seen on the site lately is coming from you. Most of the Trump people...not all...seem to argue the case for their guy, perhaps criticize other candidates on style and issues/character...but generally strive to make the case FOR their guy. You seem to be mad continuously...and you're not alone in this among the anti-Trump'rs.

So you are correct that their IS anger, you're just blind to where its actually coming from.

But all that comes from a cultic, angry white man who's angry at the sinister forces of the unseen establishment...so what do I know.
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« Reply #107 on: April 19, 2016, 02:23:59 am »
The only real anger I've seen on the site lately is coming from you. Most of the Trump people...not all...seem to argue the case for their guy, perhaps criticize other candidates on style and issues/character...but generally strive to make the case FOR their guy. You seem to be mad continuously...and you're not alone in this among the anti-Trump'rs.

So you are correct that their IS anger, you're just blind to where its actually coming from.

But all that comes from a cultic, angry white man who's angry at the sinister forces of the unseen establishment...so what do I know.

Yeah, we're mad.  And you guys are just gentle as lambs. And so is your sweet, gentle, Donald.

I don't have a guy, pal.  My guy is gone.  All I want to do is keep Trump out of the White HOuse. I will not stop or refrain from commenting until that happens.

Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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« Reply #108 on: April 19, 2016, 02:25:19 am »
Yeah, we're mad.  And you guys are just gentle as lambs. And so is your sweet, gentle, Donald.

I don't have a guy, pal.  My guy is gone.  All I want to do is keep Trump out of the White HOuse. I will not stop or refrain from commenting until that happens.

The least you could be is truthful.

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« Reply #109 on: April 19, 2016, 02:26:53 am »
Sink.  You know I don't hate anybody.

Trump's appeal to me is strictly getting those 95 million back to work, 40 hours @ week, with private inter-state companies competing for my health insurance premiums.

Also, he's a slap in the face to Washington, DC...business as usual.

And I have no illusions of him building a wall along the Mexican border.    Although, it would be nice.

Trump is not going to get anybody back to work. He can't. The jobs he promises to bring back are gone for good.

As for a slap to Washington, he would have to work with these people to get his agenda passed.  He's not going to slap anybody, DC. 

He's never going to be president.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: YouGov/CBS Poll: Trump 49, Cruz 31 in California Primary
« Reply #110 on: April 19, 2016, 02:57:15 am »
Sink.  You know I don't hate anybody.

Trump's appeal to me is strictly getting those 95 million back to work, 40 hours @ week, with private inter-state companies competing for my health insurance premiums.

Also, he's a slap in the face to Washington, DC...business as usual.

And I have no illusions of him building a wall along the Mexican border.    Although, it would be nice.

I bet ya a billion dollars, on TRUMP that that wall is built years, decades,centuries, before Cruz abolishes the IRS
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Re: YouGov/CBS Poll: Trump 49, Cruz 31 in California Primary
« Reply #111 on: April 19, 2016, 03:23:15 am »
I bet ya a billion dollars, on TRUMP that that wall is built years, decades,centuries, before Cruz abolishes the IRS
 :silly: :silly:


88finger point

Not even if Drumpf pulls the cash from his own pockets (or, as is more likely, from the pockets of unsuspecting investors), will "The Wall" get built.

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« Reply #112 on: April 19, 2016, 04:07:58 am »
I bet ya a billion dollars, on TRUMP that that wall is built years, decades,centuries, before Cruz abolishes the IRS
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Are those trump dollars or Cruz dollars?

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« Reply #113 on: April 19, 2016, 04:12:24 am »
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Are those trump dollars or Cruz dollars?
LOL


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Re: YouGov/CBS Poll: Trump 49, Cruz 31 in California Primary
« Reply #114 on: April 19, 2016, 04:15:14 am »

88finger point

Not even if Drumpf pulls the cash from his own pockets (or, as is more likely, from the pockets of unsuspecting investors), will "The Wall" get built.
Since CRUZ will never in a million years abolish the IRS, Trump can build it one brick at time and I still win smarty pants :tongue2:


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Re: YouGov/CBS Poll: Trump 49, Cruz 31 in California Primary
« Reply #115 on: April 19, 2016, 05:17:57 am »
Many of us know that GOPers want the SOS. Lawyers and politicians, the same people that has the country $19 trillion in debt and beholden to the Saudis and Chinese.