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When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« on: March 18, 2016, 03:21:25 pm »
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 When Trump Beats Hillary
Posted By Patrick J. Buchanan On March 18, 2016 @ 12:05 am

“If his poll numbers hold, Trump will be there six months from now when the Sweet 16 is cut to the Final Four, and he will likely be in the finals.” My prediction, in July of 2015, looks pretty good right now.

Herewith, a second prediction. Republican wailing over his prospective nomination aside, Donald Trump could beat Hillary Clinton like a drum in November.

Indeed, only the fear that Trump can win explains the hysteria in this city. Here is the Washington Post of March 18: “As a moral question it is straightforward. The mission of any responsible Republican should be to block a Trump nomination and election.”

The Orwellian headline over that editorial: “To defend our democracy, the GOP must aim for a brokered convention.” Beautiful. Defending democracy requires Republicans to cancel the democratic decision of the largest voter turnout of any primaries in American history. And this is now a moral imperative for Republicans.

Like the Third World leaders it lectures, the Post celebrates democracy—so long as the voters get it right. Whatever one may think of the Donald, he has exposed not only how far out of touch our political elites are, but how insular is the audience that listens to our media elite.

Understandably, Trump’s rivals were hesitant to take him on, seeing the number he did on “little Marco,” “low energy” Jeb, and “Lyin’ Ted.” But the Big Media—the Post, Wall Street Journal, New York Times—have been relentless and ruthless.

Yet Trump’s strength with voters seemed to grow, pari passu, with the savagery of their attacks. As for National Review, The Weekly Standard and the accredited conservative columnists of the big op-ed pages, their hostility to Trump seems to rise, commensurate with Trump’s rising polls.

As the Wizard of Oz was exposed as a little man behind a curtain with a big megaphone, our media establishment is unlikely ever again to be seen as formidable as it once was.

And the GOP? Those Republicans who assert that a Trump nomination would be a moral stain, a scarlet letter, the death of the party, they are most likely describing what a Trump nomination would mean to their own ideologies and interests.

Barry Goldwater lost 44 states in 1964, and the GOP fell to less than a third of Congress. “The Republican Party is dead,” wailed the Rockefeller wing. Actually, it wasn’t. Only the Rockefeller wing was dead.

After the great Yellowstone fire in the summer of ’88, the spring of ’89 produced astonishing green growth everywhere. 1964 was the Yellowstone fire of the GOP, burning up a million acres of dead wood, preparing the path for party renewal. Renewal often follows rebellion.

Republican strength today, on Capitol Hill and in state offices, is at levels unseen since Calvin Coolidge. Turnout in the GOP primaries has been running at levels unseen in American history, while turnout in the Democratic primaries is below what it was in the Obama-Clinton race of 2008.

This opportunity for Republicans should be a cause for rejoicing, not all this weeping and gnashing of teeth. If the party in Cleveland can bring together the Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and John Kasich forces, the White House, Supreme Court, and Congress are all within reach.

Consider. Clinton was beaten by Bernie Sanders in Michigan, and pressed in Ohio and Illinois, on her support for NAFTA and the trade deals of the Clinton-Bush-Obama era that eviscerated American manufacturing and led to the loss of millions of factory jobs and the stagnation of wages.

Sanders’ issues are Trump’s issues.

A Trump campaign across the industrial Midwest, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey featuring attacks on Hillary Clinton’s support for NAFTA, the WTO, MFN for China—and her backing of amnesty and citizenship for illegal immigrants, and for the Iraq and Libyan debacles—is a winning hand.

Lately, 116 architects and subcontractors of the Bush I and II foreign policy took their own version of the Oxford Oath. They will not vote for, nor serve in a Trump administration. Talking heads are bobbing up on cable TV to declare that if Trump is nominee, they will not vote for him and may vote for Clinton.

This is not unwelcome news. Let them go.

Their departure testifies that Trump is offering something new and different from the foreign policy failures this crowd did so much to produce. The worst mistake Trump could make would be to tailor his winning positions on trade, immigration, and intervention—to court such losers.

While Trump should reach out to the defeated establishment of the party, he cannot compromise the issues that brought him where he is, or embrace the failed policies that establishment produced. This would be throwing away his aces.

The Trump campaign is not a hostile takeover of the Republican Party. It is a rebellion of shareholders who are voting to throw out the corporate officers and board of directors that ran the company into the ground.

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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2016, 03:42:58 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2016, 03:45:40 pm »

"The Orwellian headline over that editorial: “To defend our democracy, the GOP must aim for a brokered convention.” Beautiful. Defending democracy requires Republicans to cancel the democratic decision of the largest voter turnout of any primaries in American history. And this is now a moral imperative for Republicans."

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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2016, 03:46:22 pm »


Because he's been a registered Republican for years, despite your misinformation on that point.

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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2016, 03:53:16 pm »
Because he's been a registered Republican for years, despite your misinformation on that point.

Saying you are a thing is vastly different than actually being that thing and I see NO evidence at all that Donald Trump is actually a Republican.
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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2016, 03:59:19 pm »
Because he's been a registered Republican for years, despite your misinformation on that point.

He's been a registered Republican for three years:

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In August 2001, the billionaire enrolled as a Democrat. Eight years later, he returned to the Republican Party, The Smoking Gun reported.

After only two years as a registered Republican, Mr. Trump left the party again, and in December 2011 marked a box that indicated, “I do not wish to enroll in a party.”

Mr. Trump returned to the GOP in April 2012, The Smoking Gun reported.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/16/donald-trump-changed-political-parties-at-least-fi/
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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2016, 04:11:03 pm »
Saying you are a thing is vastly different than actually being that thing and I see NO evidence at all that Donald Trump is actually a Republican.
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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2016, 04:32:38 pm »
This is a Cruz/Trump battle at this point (an uphill battle for Cruz), and all talk of third party or brokered convention only serves to help Trump.

For me, I expect Trump to get the nomination, and I expect to support him.  I still hold out for Cruz.  My best case scenario at this point is that Cruz has enough delegates to prevent Trump from getting a first-ballot win, and bargains them for the SCOTUS opening.  Cruz filling the Scalia vacancy would be nearly as good (arguably better) than Cruz winning the presidency.

If Trump is smart, he will offer that SCOTUS appointment to Cruz and announce publicly that his first act as POTUS will be to appoint Cruz to the SCOTUS.  Suddenly, every conservative will have huge motivation to support Trump, and every senate seat will be in play as the Democrats will pledge to filibuster.  Then we will find out just how truly liberal this country is.

I suspect a vast majority would prefer to see a constitutionalist on the court.

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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2016, 04:35:18 pm »
This is a Cruz/Trump battle at this point (an uphill battle for Cruz), and all talk of third party or brokered convention only serves to help Trump.

For me, I expect Trump to get the nomination, and I expect to support him.  I still hold out for Cruz.  My best case scenario at this point is that Cruz has enough delegates to prevent Trump from getting a first-ballot win, and bargains them for the SCOTUS opening.  Cruz filling the Scalia vacancy would be nearly as good (arguably better) than Cruz winning the presidency.

If Trump is smart, he will offer that SCOTUS appointment to Cruz and announce publicly that his first act as POTUS will be to appoint Cruz to the SCOTUS.  Suddenly, every conservative will have huge motivation to support Trump, and every senate seat will be in play as the Democrats will pledge to filibuster.  Then we will find out just how truly liberal this country is.

I suspect a vast majority would prefer to see a constitutionalist on the court.

I'm all in for Cruz till the bitter end but I do like the way you think Victor
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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2016, 04:44:49 pm »
HOW can it BE that si many are overlooking the obvious?


both clinton and sanders...have beaten Donald J, Trump in all but one Head to head Poll thus far.


who is going to nominate a proven loser??


does he get the PRIZE.... due to his tacky stick to it attitude?


Trumps in this to THROW the election when he BOLTS the party and takes his supporters WITH HIM.


I will Bank on that!!
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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2016, 04:50:45 pm »

Trumps in this to THROW the election when he BOLTS the party and takes his supporters WITH HIM.

I will Bank on that!!

It is possible that Trump would prefer that the GOP deny him the nomination in spite of his having a plurality of the delegates.  A Trump/Sanders independent ticket would be an easier path to the presidency than a Trump/GOPe ticket in a two way race.

 

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Re: When Trump Beats Hillary ....By Patrick J. Buchanan
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2016, 05:31:25 pm »
Saying you are a thing is vastly different than actually being that thing and I see NO evidence at all that Donald Trump is actually a Republican.

So we have witnessed with the milquetoast GOP for the past few decades. Trump is a fighter, he has a spine unlike the waffling GOP.