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Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals
« on: March 17, 2016, 04:06:49 pm »
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Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals

17 MAR 17, 2016 6:00 AM EDT

By Eli Lake

In a year when the Republican Party is breaking apart because of Donald Trump, the only man left with a chance to beat him is trying to build a big tent -- by GOP standards -- when it comes to foreign affairs.

On Thursday, Senator Ted Cruz is set to announce his campaign's national security advisory team, and it includes many foreign-policy insurgents and a few more establishment types. The list includes conservatives who disagree on one of the most pressing issues facing the next president: defining and confronting radical Islam.

The first name on the advisory list that stands out is Frank Gaffney, a former Reagan administration Pentagon official who has emerged as a lightning rod in the Obama era, accused by the Southern Poverty Law Center of being one of the nation's leading Islamophobes.

When Trump proposed a temporary ban on all Muslim immigration, he quoted from a 2015 survey of American Muslims commissioned by the think tank Gaffney founded, the Center for Security Policy. It concluded that a quarter of U.S. Muslims supported violent jihad against the U.S. This led to speculation in the Washington press that Gaffney was advising Trump.

But Gaffney is a Cruz man. In an interview, he said that he met Cruz when he was running for Senate in 2012, and that he has briefed him on the FBI's investigation into a Muslim Brotherhood-linked charity known as the Holy Land Foundation and on how Sharia law is a threat to America. "I hope that some of that went into his decision to introduce legislation to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization," Gaffney said.

Until this year, these views were considered radioactive by the Republican establishment. George W. Bush, after Sept. 11, famously appeared at a Washington mosque and declared that Islam was a religion of peace. Senator John McCain, when he was his party's presidential nominee in 2008, famously rebuked a talk-radio host for calling his challenger "Barack Hussein Obama," a dog whistle to the president's Arabic middle name. In 2012, the campaign of Republican nominee, Mitt Romney, spurned Gaffney and other conservatives who warned that Sharia was a domestic threat. 

This time around it's a little different. As Cruz makes the case that he is the last, best chance to prevent Trump from winning his party's nomination, his foreign-policy advisers include not only Gaffney, but also three others who work for Gaffney's think tank: former CIA officers Fred Fleitz and Clare Lopez and former Army Special Forces Master Sergeant Jim Hanson. Also on the list is Andrew McCarthy, a former assistant U.S. attorney who prosecuted the first World Trade Center bombing. McCarthy has been outspoken in his view that adherents at least to political Islam are seeking to impose Sharia law in the U.S.

At the same time, Cruz's team includes former officials who reject Gaffney's broad view that any Muslim who believes in Sharia law by definition believes in a totalitarian and violent ideology at war with America.

"We're at war with a coalition of radical Islamists and radical secularists. It's not all one thing, nor is Islam all one thing," Michael Ledeen, a former Reagan administration official and a Cruz campaign adviser, told me.

Jim Talent, a former Missouri Republican senator who was a key adviser to Romney in 2008 and 2012, is signed up for the Cruz team. So is Mary Habeck, a former staffer on George W. Bush's national security council, who is an expert on jihadi organizations and has warned against demonizing the entire religion of Islam.

Another Cruz adviser, Elliott Abrams, helped craft Bush's policy to empower moderate Muslims in the Middle East against radicals. He told me he feels much the same way as Habeck. "It's now 15 years since 9/11, and I think it's obvious that Muslim citizens in the U.S. and Muslim leaders abroad have an absolutely critical role to play in fighting jihadis and other Muslim extremists," Abrams said. "This is partly a battle within Islam that they are going to have fight and win. Alienating these potential allies is the kind of foolish policy that the Obama administration has engaged in when it comes to Arab states that are our allies."

Victoria Coates, who has been Cruz's main adviser on national security since he came to the Senate, told me this tension on the policy team "is by design and not an accident." She added: "Both Frank and Elliott are people I went out of my way to set up meetings with the Senator. He has met with both of them individually for years."

Cruz threaded this needle between Gaffney and Abrams in his response to Trump's call in December for a temporary ban on Muslims coming to the U.S. Cruz never criticized Trump's position directly. (Marco Rubio did.) But he also didn't endorse the position, instead introducing a bill to halt refugees from countries with a significant al Qaeda or Islamic State presence, with exceptions for asylum seekers fleeing genocide. "When Donald Trump talked about barring all Muslims from entering into the United States, Senator Cruz of course did not endorse that opinion, in part because he knows the law," Abrams said.

Cruz also knows politics. He has not won over the Washington mandarins who came out early for Jeb Bush, like former CIA director Michael Hayden. But after Rubio dropped out of the race on Tuesday, Cruz made an appeal to his former rival's supporters to join his campaign.

Cruz is hoping Republican leaders in Washington will embrace his candidacy now, even though he has railed against them since he came to the Senate. Cruz also knows that long-time supporters like him precisely because he so infuriates the Republican establishment.

His new team of national security advisers, in this respect, has something for everyone.
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Re: Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2016, 04:08:16 pm »
With the exception of Frank Gaffney (who thinks every Muslim has a knife under his coat, ready to stab non-Muslims), this is a pretty serious group of people with lots of experience and different points of view. 

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2016, 04:14:50 pm »
With the exception of Frank Gaffney (who thinks every Muslim has a knife under his coat, ready to stab non-Muslims), this is a pretty serious group of people with lots of experience and different points of view.

I sure hope you say they are bought and paid for like you said of Jeff Sessions!  Doing otherwise makes you an obviously biased hypocrite.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2016, 04:43:43 pm »
I sure hope you say they are bought and paid for like you said of Jeff Sessions!  Doing otherwise makes you an obviously biased hypocrite.

What evidence do you have that they've been bought?  Sessions got a plum job, and Carson has been promised one.  I haven't seen any of these people actually endorse Cruz.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2016, 05:06:49 pm »
What evidence do you have that they've been bought?  Sessions got a plum job, and Carson has been promised one.  I haven't seen any of these people actually endorse Cruz.

What is Sessions' "plum job?"  What is your evidence he's been bought?

He's still a senator and is leading Trump's foreign policy team as is an adviser.  Why are you so dishonest?
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Re: Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2016, 05:10:26 pm »
I sure hope you say they are bought and paid for like you said of Jeff Sessions!  Doing otherwise makes you an obviously biased hypocrite.

Say, Carling........... since you claim to support Cruz, what do you think of his choices relative to Trump's (which you spend all of your time here defending................. as opposed to Cruz, that is..........)?

Strong selections by Cruz, no??
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Re: Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2016, 05:11:24 pm »
What is Sessions' "plum job?"  What is your evidence he's been bought?

He's still a senator and is leading Trump's foreign policy team as is an adviser.  Why are you so dishonest?

Sessions endorses, gets a job.  Christie endorses, begs for a job.  Carson endorses, gets promised a job.

See how that works with Trump?
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Re: Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2016, 06:53:55 pm »
I sure hope you say they are bought and paid for like you said of Jeff Sessions!  Doing otherwise makes you an obviously biased hypocrite.

No not at all.  Cruz doesn't have to buy or pay anyone.  Trump is the very definition of hypocrite; he boasts about being very, very wealthy and then brags about a how popular he is even though he has to buy endorsements.   :silly:
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Re: Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2016, 06:59:39 pm »
Say, Carling........... since you claim to support Cruz, what do you think of his choices relative to Trump's (which you spend all of your time here defending................. as opposed to Cruz, that is..........)?

Strong selections by Cruz, no??

I don't support Cruz anymore, but will gladly vote for him if he wins under the current convention rules.

The behavior of sinkspur, you, and others to the  original Trump posters here made me realize I don't want to be associated with people who so viciously were questioning the morality and integrity of posters I've known for years and know are good people. All that only because they support Trump?

So maybe Trump should thank you for my vote and Cruz blame you for it?
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Re: Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2016, 07:09:23 pm »
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Another Cruz adviser, Elliott Abrams, helped craft Bush's policy to empower moderate Muslims in the Middle East against radicals.
  Just where are these moderate Muslims today?  Heck where were they back then?  Very GOPe like this Abrams adviser.


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Re: Cruz Assembles an Unlikely Team of Foreign-Policy Rivals
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2016, 07:09:36 pm »
With the exception of Frank Gaffney (who thinks every Muslim has a knife under his coat, ready to stab non-Muslims), this is a pretty serious group of people with lots of experience and different points of view.

I actually like Gaffney. He is usually right about muslim connections like that POS Grover Norquist.

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2016, 07:16:04 pm »
I don't support Cruz anymore, but will gladly vote for him if he wins under the current convention rules.

The behavior of sinkspur, you, and others to the  original Trump posters here made me realize I don't want to be associated with people who so viciously were questioning the morality and integrity of posters I've known for years and know are good people. All that only because they support Trump?

So maybe Trump should thank you for my vote and Cruz blame you for it?

If your thinking and reasoning is so weak that random nobodies on some nebulous political forum can sway your thinking in regards to a Presidential election, you need to hang up the keyboard and reassess your life.

This is all nonsense and grab ass going on here. Forums are the equivalent to a bunch of drunks in a bar arguing over whether Daryl Strawberry is a great player or not......or it could be your just throwing bullshit around too and loved Trump from the moment you saw his flaxen hair hit the stump.

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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2016, 07:18:38 pm »
I don't support Cruz anymore, but will gladly vote for him if he wins under the current convention rules.

The behavior of sinkspur, you, and others to the  original Trump posters here made me realize I don't want to be associated with people who so viciously were questioning the morality and integrity of posters I've known for years and know are good people. All that only because they support Trump?

So maybe Trump should thank you for my vote and Cruz blame you for it?

Well, that's just weird......... because I have never ONCE questioned the morality of people who support Trump....... just the morality of Trump himself.  What I HAVE said is that supporting Trump requires moving down importance of the integrity of the person you support in favor of other qualities.......... like bullying and 'getting things done.'  It requires shelving moral standards you hold for yourself and not requiring them of the politicians you support.  And I've said that very, very clearly many, many times.

BUT........... if my support of Cruz and opposition to Trump has driven you away from Cruz himself, your Constitutional standards must not have been all that strong to begin with.


Because I'm pretty sure Trump has never even picked up a Constitution and read it..........  :patriot:

Now I'm not going to get sucked into one of your ceaseless, name-calling, and meaningless arguments, but it IS good to know that your pretense of supporting Cruz when you only argue on behalf of Trump has finally ended, and your true feelings are now laid bare.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2016, 07:25:04 pm »
If your thinking and reasoning is so weak that random nobodies on some nebulous political forum can sway your thinking in regards to a Presidential election, you need to hang up the keyboard and reassess your life.

This is all nonsense and grab ass going on here. Forums are the equivalent to a bunch of drunks in a bar arguing over whether Daryl Strawberry is a great player or not......or it could be your just throwing bullshit around too and loved Trump from the moment you saw his flaxen hair hit the stump.

I'm fine with either but am supporting Trump now. If Cruz continues to bring in GOProg advisers I'll dump him, too.  It seems silly to blindly support a candidate when they change their tune.  Rubio ran as an outsider as a senator and I loved it.  He ran as an outsider for president and I dropped him.  That's how I roll.

You're new here, and seeing long-time posters viciously question the integrity and even the faith of other long-time posters solely because they support Trump did impact me.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2016, 07:32:48 pm »
I sure hope you say they are bought and paid for like you said of Jeff Sessions!  Doing otherwise makes you an obviously biased hypocrite.

Are they endorsing him?  No.  So the question is irrelevant.  paying someone for services rendered is standard and accepted.  Paying someone for their political endorsement is not and it stinks of corruption. 

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2016, 07:35:51 pm »
Are they endorsing him?  No.  So the question is irrelevant.  paying someone for services rendered is standard and accepted.  Paying someone for their political endorsement is not and it stinks of corruption.

Do you have evidence that Sessions and Carson have been paid for their endorsements, or are you just blowing hot air out of your piehole again?
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2016, 07:37:36 pm »
I'm fine with either but am supporting Trump now. If Cruz continues to bring in GOProg advisers I'll dump him, too.  It seems silly to blindly support a candidate when they change their tune.  Rubio ran as an outsider as a senator and I loved it.  He ran as an outsider for president and I dropped him.  That's how I roll.

You're new here, and seeing long-time posters viciously question the integrity and even the faith of other long-time posters solely because they support Trump did impact me.  Kindly  butt out of this conversation, n00b, because you weren't even here then.

Have a nice day, and thanks for your worthless and ignorant opinion, I guess?

Uhh, I hate to break it to you, but Frank registered in August of 2011, a full two months before you did.  Maybe you want to reconsider the n00b insult?

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2016, 07:39:28 pm »
Frank Cannon:  Date Registered: August 27, 2011, 12:47:29 AM

(Beat me to it, Bill.  :beer:)
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2016, 07:39:52 pm »
Uhh, I hate to break it to you, but Frank registered in August of 2011, a full two months before you did.  Maybe you want to reconsider the n00b insult?

Uh he hasn't posted in years and wasn't here last summer and fall.  I wonder who dragged him back here?
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2016, 07:46:50 pm »
Uh he hasn't posted in years and wasn't here last summer and fall.  I wonder who dragged him back here?

You and your stellar acumen brought be back. I have been reading far and wide on various forums about this Carling poster that really blows the doors off everyone with his intellectual parrying.

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2016, 07:51:14 pm »
I'm fine with either but am supporting Trump now. If Cruz continues to bring in GOProg advisers I'll dump him, too.  It seems silly to blindly support a candidate when they change their tune.  Rubio ran as an outsider as a senator and I loved it.  He ran as an outsider for president and I dropped him.  That's how I roll.

You're new here, and seeing long-time posters viciously question the integrity and even the faith of other long-time posters solely because they support Trump did impact me.  Kindly  butt out of this conversation, n00b, because you weren't even here then.

Have a nice day, and thanks for your worthless and ignorant opinion, I guess?

Speaking of ignorant, I wanted a little clarification on your screed. So it is unacceptable to you for a candidate to have Progressive advisers, but it is alright to support a candidadte pushing actual Progressive programs like taxing the rich, expanding Govt' funded healthcare, touch back amnesty (which is actually to the Left of Rubio), targeted assassinations on women and children and gutting the 1st Amendment by allowing the Govt' to sue reporters. 

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Carling I have asked you to stop the insults...time for you to have a timeout.
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