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Dozens of anti-Donald Trump protesters, traveling in a procession of vehicles adorned with Mexican flags, made their way from Panorama City to Sylmar early Sunday afternoon in a demonstration that prompted the brief closure of two freeway ramps, authorities said.


Vehicles adorned with Mexican flags are seen
during an anti-Donald Trump procession in the
San Fernando Valley on March 13, 2016.
(Credit: Loudlabs)

Maria Galvan, who said she was there to tell people about the importance of registering to vote, said it was aimed at sending a message to the Republican presidential candidate.

“It’s not right — he says that Mexicans are drug dealers or something like that. So that’s why they’re here,” she said of the activists.

Trump drew widespread criticism last June when he said, in his presidential announcement speech: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

The billionaire has repeatedly vowed, if elected president, to deport the roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants in United States. He has also promised to construct a wall along the U.S.-Mexico -- a massive undertaking that he insists the Mexican government will pay for.

About 11:30 a.m. Sunday, adults, teens and children gathered in the area of Van Nuys Boulevard and Blythe Street, then drove and rode in caravan of trucks, cars and SUVs to the Hansen Dam Recreation Center, said Officer Rosario Herrera of the Los Angeles Police Department’s Media Relations Section.


Vehicles adorned with Mexican flags are seen
during an anti-Donald Trump procession in the
San Fernando Valley on March 13, 2016.
(Credit: Loudlabs)

News video showed Mexican flags, large and small, flapping in the wind as the vehicles made their way through the San Fernando Valley. Meanwhile, an LAPD helicopter kept watch from overhead.

Shortly after 2 p.m., police requested assistance from the California Highway Patrol, according to Officer Alex Rubio, a spokesman for the CHP.

About 40 minutes later, the Highway Patrol closed the on- and off-ramps to the 210 Freeway at Osbourne Street. After a few minutes, the protesters cleared the area and the ramps were reopened, Rubio said.

No arrests were made.

Correction: An earlier version of this article incorrectly gave the name of a local nonprofit as the organizer of Sunday’s
event. In fact, Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, aka CHIRLA, did not organize the event.
The story has been updated.

http://ktla.com/2016/03/13/waving-mexican-flags-anti-trump-protesters-hold-procession-in-san-fernando-valley/

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I would love to know how many of those protesters are here ILLEGALLY!   :patriot:
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I would love to know how many of those protesters are here ILLEGALLY!   :patriot:
Surprisingly few. Most Hispanics in America are native born citizens, many with ancestry dating back several generations.

I was talking with one guy yesterday, in a LA suburb. His mother was born in 1926, in a "campo" which was a place for agriculture workers.

I have read about those times. Instead of having people go back and forth for seasons, the grower companies built a camp where workers could rent or buy homes for their entire families.

Wile picking was seasonal, other types of farm work went on year round. Hence the need for year round workers.

His mother turning 90 and my mother 91 share certain memories, such as blackouts following the Pearl Harbor attack.
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I would love to know how many of those protesters are here ILLEGALLY! 

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Surprisingly few. Most Hispanics in America are native born citizens, many with ancestry dating back several generations.

I was talking with one guy yesterday, in a LA suburb. His mother was born in 1926, in a "campo" which was a place for agriculture workers.

I have read about those times. Instead of having people go back and forth for seasons, the grower companies built a camp where workers could rent or buy homes for their entire families.

Wile picking was seasonal, other types of farm work went on year round. Hence the need for year round workers.

His mother turning 90 and my mother 91 share certain memories, such as blackouts following the Pearl Harbor attack.

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The seasonal workers back then always went back to Mexico once the harvest of the crop they came to harvest was over.  They would commonly travel more than one state.  It was good for them, and good for the farmers.  It worked very well, and was a Mexican family tradition for at least a generation.

Back to the flags though.

Why weren't they flying R, W, &B?

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Go to Mexico with a group and do that. I am sure they will water board you with Margaritas? You a** will be in jail in a heartbeat. just saying! **nononono*

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The seasonal workers back then always went back to Mexico once the harvest of the crop they came to harvest was over.  They would commonly travel more than one state.  It was good for them, and good for the farmers.  It worked very well, and was a Mexican family tradition for at least a generation.

Back to the flags though.

Why weren't they flying R, W, &B?

Except I just stated as early as the 1920s or before, in my area, some did NOT go back. They stayed year round. The Growers built housing for them to stay year round, and either rented or sold the housing for them.

My friend's mother was born in said housing in the campo in 1926. I understand a degree of the resentments some Hispanics hold. They were segregated, by physical location. It varied from town to town, whether the schools were segregated. A 1947 case before the Supreme Court dealt with such segregation for schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendez_v._Westminster

I do not support the Mexican flag thing. I do have an ability to sort of understand it. I know for a fact that some of the most solidly patriotic Americans from my own HS class are veterans that are Hispanic. I can name them easily. They are in their 60s, and feature r, w, & b patriotic symbolism.

My knowledge is mostly SoCal. Hispanics have been an integral part of the societies in the West. Not so much back East. Hence many in the East are only seeing them in recent years. And only seeing recent immigrants, many illegal.

In SoCal a lot of intermarriage has occurred over the last few generations. Somebody might be named Smith, but is 1/2 Hispanic. Or named Garcia and is 1/2 Anglo.

In both my family and my wife's family the next generation features such intermarriage. The same goes for Asian, btw.

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"Waving Mexican Flags, Anti-Trump Protesters Hold Procession in San Fernando Valley..."

Hmmmmmmmm....
Lemmmeeeesssseeee here...

This is supposed to -damage- Trump's rising popularity?

We'll see!

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What would Mexico do? The answer is easy: deport them on the spot. In 2002, a dozen American college students, in Mexico legally, participated peacefully in an environmental protest against a planned airport outside of Mexico City. They swiftly found themselves deported as law-breakers for interfering in Mexico’s internal affairs.

On Friday night, we saw Sanders placards and a few communist flags at that anti-Trump rally.  I guess you'd expect that at a leftist rally with Bill Ayers in attendance. 

It was the Mexican flags that caught my attention. 

I don't know for sure who was holding the flags, but my reaction was the same.  In other words, do these kids understand how Mexico treats illegal immigrants or even legal foreigners engaged in politics?   

Let's take a look at Mexico's immigration laws:

    What would Mexico do? The answer is easy: deport them on the spot. In 2002, a dozen American college students, in Mexico legally, participated peacefully in an environmental protest against a planned airport outside of Mexico City. They swiftly found themselves deported as law-breakers for interfering in Mexico’s internal affairs.

Another person had a sign that read: "Liberation not deportation."

What in the world does that mean?  Does the young woman understand that every country has immigration laws and deports people violating them?

Donald Trump is not my candidate.  He has made some foolish remarks over time, especially his in-your-face campaign talking point that Mexico will pay for the wall.  The "rapists" and "criminals" lines painted way too many people with the same brush.

At the same time, opposing a Trump visit by waving a Mexican flag shows incredible ignorance of Mexico and what Trump is saying.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/03/do_mexican_flagwavers_know_what_happens_to_illegals_in_mexico.html

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Mexico's Tough Laws That the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)

Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)

Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)

The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 3

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 11

Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says:

"A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)

Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)

Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)


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