Donald Trump reaches new level of absurdity on media criticism

[Right_in_Virginia]

In fact, I find my views in the company of some of the brightest and best here.

I wouldn't expect anything else.   

[musiclady]

I wouldn't expect anything else.   

My only mistake on these threads is responding to taunts.  (Shoulda left Longiron's alone).

I shall display some discipline here and pay no mind to yours. 

[musiclady]

Let the record show that Carling has put me on ignore for responding to Longiron's lies and taunts about and to me.  It is apparently fine for that I have been called a "low information voter" because I do not support Trump, and that is why I find what Carling did very strange. Even if you support the guy, Carling, why condone assaults on another poster's character?

If and when I am attacked again, and repeatedly as I have been for days, I WILL respond.  Next time I will try to be kinder to anyone assaulting me, but I will not sit idly by while my reputation is smeared.

So if anyone else wants to come at me like the TOS refugee here has done, let them come.  Politics can be tough, but if posters here are not honest, then I will not be silent about it.

Carling, if you read this, consider that you have been informed of the truth.  You can take it from there.....

[Lando Lincoln]

I finally had to put musiclady on ignore.

It is your prerogative to do so, and you owe me no explanation, but I am mystified.

[DCPatriot]

I finally had to put musiclady on ignore.

She's making any Trump thread unreadable for me.  Hopefully once Trump drops out, she'll be back to herself, because I have no clue who the person posting is right now.  She's a different person.

I've more or less gone into lurk mode on the Trump threads. 

Have convinced myself it's out of respect for owners and mods I consider friends.

It's either that, or because they're so frantic and obsessive and bordering on psychotic.   

[Lando Lincoln]

I've more or less gone into lurk mode on the Trump threads. 

Have convinced myself it's out of respect for owners and mods I consider friends.

It's either that, or because they're so frantic and obsessive and bordering on psychotic.   

I understand.  I have not bought into Trump the candidate, I think most know that.  Just speaking for myself, I have made it a point to be civil, impersonal, and not emphatic or strident in my comments regarding Trump.  I have certainly not been frantic, obsessive or borderline psychotic over it.   

[musiclady]

I understand.  I have not bought into Trump the candidate, I think most know that.  Just speaking for myself, I have made it a point to be civil, impersonal, and not emphatic or strident in my comments regarding Trump.  I have certainly not been frantic, obsessive or borderline psychotic over it.   

Though I am definitely higher key and less polite than you, Lando, none of those descriptors accurately describe me either.

But when people start assaulting me, I do react...... especially if it is deliberate and over a period of days as this has been.  I've had enough.

I guess I should be meeker in response, but I am who I am.  I have not changed, and I will say what I think.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Funny that my positions are in the majority here.  I don't lack for company in the common sense department.

In fact, I find my views in the company of some of the brightest and best here.

Your observations are irrefutable, and that is why fragile egos must ignore them.  Sad for them.

[musiclady]

Your observations are irrefutable, and that is why fragile egos must ignore them.  Sad for them.

Thank you for that, Once-Ler.

I do not believe I have crossed any lines here, and I know that there are many other fine members of this forum who share my observations, so I'll admit to being bewildered that anyone would think that I need to be put on ignore.

It's still troubling when people say I have "changed" when I am exactly the same person with the same temperament, and the same exact views I have had for decades.

And it's interesting that I have said rougher things to you (and you to me) than I have ever said to anyone here who supports Trump, and somehow you have not felt the need to shun me, nor I you.

Again......... on a political forum where I have most definitely not crossed any lines, I just find this "ignore" thing weird.....

[Bigun]

Thank you for that, Once-Ler.

I do not believe I have crossed any lines here, and I know that there are many other fine members of this forum who share my observations, so I'll admit to being bewildered that anyone would think that I need to be put on ignore.

It's still troubling when people say I have "changed" when I am exactly the same person with the same temperament, and the same exact views I have had for decades.

And it's interesting that I have said rougher things to you (and you to me) than I have ever said to anyone here who supports Trump, and somehow you have not felt the need to shun me, nor I you.

Again......... on a political forum where I have most definitely not crossed any lines, I just find this "ignore" thing weird.....

Forget about it!  Some people love to try and play mind games with those they think vulnerable to that!  Just ignore it and keep right on doiing what you've been doing.

[DCPatriot]

I understand.  I have not bought into Trump the candidate, I think most know that.  Just speaking for myself, I have made it a point to be civil, impersonal, and not emphatic or strident in my comments regarding Trump.  I have certainly not been frantic, obsessive or borderline psychotic over it.   

Of course, not.  You're forever the mensch.

Most people here are civil in voicing their disagreement.  But......

When you constantly see them ALL TOGETHER...thread after thread after thread...strutting, like they've got the special sauce recipe...like they're smarter and wiser than anybody that would have a different opinion....

well, hopefully you get the picture.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Let the record show that Carling has put me on ignore for responding to Longiron's lies and taunts about and to me.  .../

If and when I am attacked again, and repeatedly as I have been for days, I WILL respond.  Next time I will try to be kinder to anyone assaulting me, but I will not sit idly by while my reputation is smeared. 

Recently you seem to be having a hard time.  The rhetoric has moved from "disrespect" to "assault"  and a post that begins with "let the record show".

ML, there is no "record".  This is not a courtroom, it's a blog.  A place where people (mostly under the cover of anonymity) come to debate, poke, prod, and stir the pot hoping to change minds and win a momentary debate point.  It can get heated.  And when it does, why not simply ask the poster to tone down the inflammatory rhetoric?  You've no need to endlessly debate that you did nothing to "deserve" the response or that you're a good person. 

We've a long way to go in this primary/election cycle and it's sure to get tougher around here before it gets easier.  Speaking for myself, it's becoming tedious and a little painful to slog through debates on who is and who is not guilty of what is now an "assault" without being drawn into that debate, rather than the one on the issue at hand.

My friendly advice is:  try not to take disagreement so personally.  Stick to defending your opinion rather than your character or feelings.  I don't know if you should lighten up or toughen up, but it seems one or the other would make being here a bit easier and even a bit fun for you.

Just my two cents.   

[DCPatriot]

Thank you for that, Once-Ler.

I do not believe I have crossed any lines here, and I know that there are many other fine members of this forum who share my observations, so I'll admit to being bewildered that anyone would think that I need to be put on ignore.

It's still troubling when people say I have "changed" when I am exactly the same person with the same temperament, and the same exact views I have had for decades.

And it's interesting that I have said rougher things to you (and you to me) than I have ever said to anyone here who supports Trump, and somehow you have not felt the need to shun me, nor I you.

Again......... on a political forum where I have most definitely not crossed any lines, I just find this "ignore" thing weird.....

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[aligncare]

My only mistake on these threads is responding to taunts.  (Shoulda left Longiron's alone).

I shall display some discipline here and pay no mind to yours. 

This is politics. Nothing makes rational sense in politics. Differences of opinion during primary season are as common as spots on a leopard. I'm not about to get bent out of shape because of a shifting landscape of political opinion.

The big mistake that some make in staking out a political position, including you, m'lady, is mischaracterizing someone else's support for a candidate, or even their entertaining a passing consideration of a candidate, as "love" for the candidate. Nothing could be further from the truth. Political support does not equal love.

[musiclady]

This is politics. Nothing makes rational sense in politics. Differences of opinion during primary season are as common as spots on a leopard. I'm not about to get bent out of shape because of a shifting landscape of political opinion.

The big mistake that some make in staking out a political position, including you, m'lady, is mischaracterizing someone else's support for a candidate, or even their entertaining a passing consideration of a candidate, as "love" for the candidate. Nothing could be further from the truth. Political support does not equal love.

It does in some.  And you need to keep in mind that the one I used the word "love" about was the one who has been taunting me for days as a "low information voter" because I don't support the guy he's crusading for.  I don't think love is much of a stretch there.

Sorry to disagree with you, friend, but I didn't "mischaracterize" Longiron.  He's been after me, personally attacking me on multiple threads.  I was RESPONDING to him.

My memory may be mistaken, but I have not personally...... personally........ attacked anyone else for their devotion to Trump.  I have made comments about some of his devotees (most of whom are outside this forum), but I certainly have not said anything personal to anyone who was 'considering' Trump.  I understand that emotion completely, though I trust that deeper consideration of the man himself will pull those people away from him.

The problem that I see with making observations of other posters based on inadequate information is that one tends to take comments completely out of their context.  In this context my use of the word "love" was appropriate regarding Longiron.

[alicewonders]

I gained a greater peace when I realized I did not have to respond every time someone taunted me.  Walking away and letting them have the last word had absolutely no effect on my pride, dignity or reputation - I still had those - perhaps even more than before. 

Greater peace when I realized letting the taunter have the last word - and letting the odor of their insult hang in the air for everyone to experience - was usually more effective than any words I could say in response. 

If a person feels like they are constantly under attack, maybe a greater peace could be gained by letting it go.  Walking away.  Moving on. 

 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

This is a political forum where we put out our opinions for others to see and comment on.  Sometimes dissenting view points will intrude into our reality.  For me, this is a valuable feature.

[musiclady]

I gained a greater peace when I realized I did not have to respond every time someone taunted me.  Walking away and letting them have the last word had absolutely no effect on my pride, dignity or reputation - I still had those - perhaps even more than before. 

Greater peace when I realized letting the taunter have the last word - and letting the odor of their insult hang in the air for everyone to experience - was usually more effective than any words I could say in response. 

If a person feels like they are constantly under attack, maybe a greater peace could be gained by letting it go.  Walking away.  Moving on. 

 

Wise words, alice.  Even after I say that I should ignore the taunts, my human nature drives me to defend myself.  It's NOT a good quality to have.

But for the record, I'm not 'walking away' from this forum.  Too many GREAT people here, who can disagree and still be kind (like you!).

I LOVE it here.   

[alicewonders]

Wise words, alice.  Even after I say that I should ignore the taunts, my human nature drives me to defend myself.  It's NOT a good quality to have.

But for the record, I'm not 'walking away' from this forum.  Too many GREAT people here, who can disagree and still be kind (like you!).

I LOVE it here.   

I didn't mean walking away from this site, only the offending thread. 

Human nature.....sigh......why, oh why - did God give us "human nature"?  I suffer from it constantly!

Love you musiclady!

 

[truth_seeker]

Wise words from my father:

"Sometimes it is a good idea to get all excited about something, and then decide to not do anything."

[musiclady]

I didn't mean walking away from this site, only the offending thread. 

Human nature.....sigh......why, oh why - did God give us "human nature"?  I suffer from it constantly!

Love you musiclady!

 

Yeah............ I ask the Lord all the time about that human nature stuff.  It gets in the way an awful lot!

One of the best things about a small, cozy forum like this is that we really do get to know each other as people and not just names on a screen, and can be more forgiving when one of us gets a bit too 'human' and loses perspective.

It's even better when we forgive each other and really do move on!

 

[alicewonders]

Wise words from my father:

"Sometimes it is a good idea to get all excited about something, and then decide to not do anything."

Yes, and when I do that, I usually realize what I got all worked up about wasn't really that big of a deal after all.