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Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« on: October 07, 2015, 02:31:24 pm »
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/10/obama_to_veto_defense_bill_unless_congress_closes_guantanamo.html

October 7, 2015
Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
By Rick Moran

So who's the obstructionist now?

President Obama is promising to veto the defense spending bill unless Congress votes to close the prison camp at Guantanamo in Cuba.

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    “So this is an indication that Republicans are gonna need to find a way to work with Democrats to put forward a National Defense Authorization Act that will earn not just the support of Congress, but also the support of the commander in chief,” he said.

    Senate Armed Services Chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., has said the White House promised him a plan to close the prison, but has yet to present one. Without that, he has said he wouldn’t be able to find the votes to do what the White House wants.

    And there are certainly people on Capitol Hill who wonder whether Obama will ultimately veto the bill — or the next version, if a budget deal is reached — over Guantánamo. The defense policy bill has become law for more than 50 years in a row, and Obama has signed it every year despite issuing veto threats over the military prison in Cuba.

    Raha Wala, senior counsel at Human Rights First, noted Obama’s threatened vetoes before.

    “We’ve heard many times that the president would veto bills over Guantánamo restrictions, and he’s never done it,” Wala said in an email. “What we need now is action. The Defense Authorization would prevent the president from closing Guantánamo before he leaves office. If he wants to close Guantánamo, the president must veto the bill and demand that Congress remove the restrictions on transferring detainees.”

The president is no doubt eager to close Guantanamo in order to please the far left as well as Raul Castro, who has been agitating for a return of our naval base to Cuba.

In truth, there is no plan on what to do with the remaining 116 prisoners at the prison camp. President Obama has suggested that they can be safely housed in regular high security American prisons, but Congress will not stand for that plan and various other schemes have also been roundly rejected.

The only reason to close the prison is to assuage international opinion. Guantanamo is a "symbol" of American violations of international law - at least in the past. Currently, there are no prisoners in the world better treated. But a presidency of smoke and mirrors deals largely in symbolic gestures so Gitmo has got to go.

Republicans will dare the president to veto the spending bill, making it impossible to pay our servicemen, both current and retired. It's a game of chicken the GOP is likely to win.
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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2015, 06:02:45 pm »
Of course they will do this for him. Then he will have another milestone, another historic event as prez. Then he will give Gitmo to Castro. Remember Holder wanted them all put stateside. That way they could all have show trials, get all the rights every citizens here gets. Then some would be let free. Not before spreading the sharia word thru-out the prison they go to.
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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2015, 06:17:55 pm »
So, let him do it. 

Let him preempt that "Republicans closed the government down" thingie.

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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2015, 07:11:15 pm »
So, let him do it. 

Let him preempt that "Republicans closed the government down" thingie.
GOPe will give it to him.


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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2015, 07:20:59 pm »
NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 5m5 minutes ago

Defense authorization bill passes Senate, 70-27; goes to President Obama who has threatened to veto - @BreakingNews

Veto proof, too.
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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2015, 08:12:06 pm »
NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 5m5 minutes ago

Defense authorization bill passes Senate, 70-27; goes to President Obama who has threatened to veto - @BreakingNews

Veto proof, too.

Well, well....

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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2015, 10:52:26 pm »
The bill will be vetoed.  But not over Gitmo.

Obama's long been on record as stating he'd veto this bill if the sequestration caps aren't removed.

Gitmo's just there to make the liberal anti-war base feel good about themselves.

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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2015, 10:59:21 pm »

My, my. Isn't Obama just so full of himself. But that's not difficult to understand, considering the weaklings he's up against in congress.

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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2015, 06:12:33 am »
My, my. Isn't Obama just so full of himself. But that's not difficult to understand, considering the weaklings he's up against in congress.
Why do you blame the GOP for Obama's VETO threat even though the Senate passed the Defense Budget with a VETO proof 70 votes?  Do you even realize how weird that is?

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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2015, 07:17:25 am »
Why do you blame the GOP for Obama's VETO threat even though the Senate passed the Defense Budget with a VETO proof 70 votes?  Do you even realize how weird that is?

Having concerns here.  Are you OK?

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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2015, 07:53:50 am »
Why do you blame the GOP for Obama's VETO threat even though the Senate passed the Defense Budget with a VETO proof 70 votes?  Do you even realize how weird that is?

I don't think there's any question but that this congress is weak against this president. So weak that they will likely install a speaker (McCarthy) who clearly lacks the mental acuity for the job, but happens to be "next in line."

My point was that this president has been emboldened to break the rules and has gotten his way in nearly every skirmish with congress precisely because they have shown him weakness.

A president will do whatever Congress lets him get away with doing. And this Congress has allowed this president to get away with much. That was my point.

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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2015, 08:27:16 am »
I don't think there's any question but that this congress is weak against this president. So weak that they will likely install a speaker (McCarthy) who clearly lacks the mental acuity for the job, but happens to be "next in line."

My point was that this president has been emboldened to break the rules and has gotten his way in nearly every skirmish with congress precisely because they have shown him weakness.

A president will do whatever Congress lets him get away with doing. And this Congress has allowed this president to get away with much. That was my point.

Spot on.  Problem is you are responding to an irrational position.  Worried about what may be going on with the poster you are responding to.

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Re: Obama to veto defense bill unless Congress closes Guantanamo
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2015, 01:38:47 am »
I don't think there's any question but that this congress is weak against this president. So weak that they will likely install a speaker (McCarthy) who clearly lacks the mental acuity for the job, but happens to be "next in line."

My point was that this president has been emboldened to break the rules and has gotten his way in nearly every skirmish with congress precisely because they have shown him weakness.

A president will do whatever Congress lets him get away with doing. And this Congress has allowed this president to get away with much. That was my point.

The Congress will only let Obama get away with what the people(voters) let him get away with, and although I understand your point, I disagree.  Thank you for clarifying your post.