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Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« on: September 15, 2015, 10:33:35 pm »
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/mitt-romney-enter-race-save-gop-from-trump-213145

 Can Romney Save Us From Trump?

Why GOP poohbahs are seriously thinking about asking Mitt back into the race.

By Matt Latimer

September 15, 2015

In a tastefully furnished conference room somewhere in the nation’s capital, leaders of the GOP establishment are popping antacids and shaking their heads. Donald Trump is the face of their party now — and there’s no stopping him.

In the latest CNN poll, his lead has grown, due to increased support among two groups they assumed would grow to hate him: Republican women and college graduates. Every candidate challenging The Donald has seen his numbers drop. Ben Carson may be next over his rather dubious decision to attack Trump on illegal immigration — the issue that propelled Trump to first place in the first place.

If only there were someone out there who could appeal to establishment voters, but also engender support from the rank and file. An outsider who has never worked in Washington. Someone with some “high energy,” without the need for caffeine.

Bet they all wish they’d been a little nicer to Mitt Romney now.

When the former Republican nominee first mused about entering the 2016 race, way back in January, he received a harsher welcome than the Apple Pencil. Nasty editorials. Anonymous quotes. Condemnation from pundits who used to champion him. Dismissive comments from donors.

Now these same Romney bashers would be the first to climb to the top of the tallest building on K Street and light up the Bat Signal for him. Or to use another analogy, Obi-Wan Ke-Romney, you’re their only hope.

Fortunately for them, there are vague stirrings in the Force that the former GOP nominee may again be toying with the idea of a late entry, even though a former aide (not Romney himself) recently denied it.

Romney’s certainly done just enough to keep himself in the headlines. Opposing the Iran deal, releasing adorable photos with his grandkids, tut-tutting over Republican candidates when they’ve crossed the line in their attacks, even filming a promo for Stephen Colbert’s new late night talk show.

Does any of this mean he’s running? Nope. But it does mean he is keeping a sliver of an option open. And might entertain entreaties from the GOP establishment — if it asks him really nicely.

And why shouldn’t he consider it? Right now, he’s the political equivalent of J.K. Rowling — a very rich person with nothing better to do but offer random musings as his days in the sun pass further and further behind him. (Rowling’s latest she-must-be-bored-out-of-her-mind observation — we’ve been mispronouncing Voldemort all along).

Could Mitt shake up the race? And, more importantly in their eyes, could he be the one to stop Donald Trump? The answers are yes, and maybe — if only he did the following:

1 Make them want you. Romney needs to pose as the reluctant candidate who only reluctantly would consider jumping into the race for king and country (and party). He needs people to come to him, to write op-eds asking him to run. In other words, to do what George W. Bush did successfully in 2000 and his brother tried — and failed — to do this year.

2 Avoid his advisers. We know what happens when Romney runs for president — he pulls together about two dozen “experts,” listens to dull PowerPoint presentations, and paralysis ensues. These guys cost him a fortune, while making a fortune, and guided him to a loss he could have avoided. They’re the types of guys (and gals) who first put the notorious 47 percent notion — the percentage of voters who’d never give him their support and therefore he could ignore — into his head in the first place. Romney won’t win with them. He doesn’t need them. More importantly, he doesn’t want to look like he needs them.

3 Laugh off his past. Romney spent much time in his past two presidential runs explaining his various policy reversals. Forget about them. You think Trump cares if he changes his position on something from one day to the next? He just moves on. Grownups can change their minds about things — if some journalists don’t like it, tough. Stick to one mantra: This election is about the future.

4 Trumpet (no pun intended) his own business record. Romney is a successful businessman and multimillionaire who, unlike Trump, seemed to spend much of his campaign trying to apologize for it. Romney should be proud of his record as a job creator and winner. He could even find a way to mimic my favorite Trumpism to date: “I’ll win so much, you’ll get bored with winning.” I, for one, would like to see that.

5 Be the guy in the documentary. 2016 is shaping up as the imperfection election — where guys with wild eyes, unorthodox hairstyles and impolitic remarks propel to the top of the heap simply because they do not look or act like the politicians who’ve disappointed everyone for so long. Romney is finished the minute he seems like Mitt Rombot — the type of spun candidate like Hillary Clinton who recently had aides declare to The New York Times that she will henceforth be funny and likable. Peasants, you may be amused by her now.

Not since the days of “Small Wonder” has anyone appeared as robotic and scripted on TV as Clinton — with the exception of Romney in 2012. The irony is that’s really not who he is at all. The Netflix documentary, “Mitt,” released after his loss to President Barack Obama revealed a witty, winning, self-deprecating man. A guy not afraid to make fun of himself and make mistakes. Which shouldn’t be too hard. Because that’s who he is in essence — a decent guy.

6 For goodness sake, pick a fight. Here’s the fundamental disconnect between Republicans and the voters: The GOP leadership is not fighting Obamacare. It is not stopping the Iran deal. It does not appear to be fighting at all. Trump is a fighter. That’s what people in the party want. Romney needs to show he’s a fighter too. Romney should take something he believes in — ideally something controversial and unorthodox — and fight like the dickens for that position. Without apology or retreat.

Just not with Trump. Anything but that.




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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 11:00:00 pm »
Trump will save us from Trump. AMERICA will Wake up and realize that the Presidency isn’t a Reality TV show as Trump wants it to seem..... 

 It is already happening and we can see it with his big mouth statements and flip flops this week alone. But the downward spiral will soon speed up, if at tomorrows debate he can't be "presidential".   
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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 11:09:41 pm »
Trump will save us from Trump. AMERICA will Wake up and realize that the Presidency isn’t a Reality TV show as Trump wants it to seem..... 

 It is already happening and we can see it with his big mouth statements and flip flops this week alone. But the downward spiral will soon speed up, if at tomorrows debate he can't be "presidential".

Well, obviously you and I disagree on Trump, and that polls in Florida favor him over Bush or Rubio.  We do agree on one thing; Trump has to come across more "presidential" tomorrow night in the debates.  A lot is going to depend on the questions that CNN asks.  Hewitt has already asked some tough questions of both Carson and Trump and I'm hoping that both are prepared.  CNN would love nothing more than to crush Trump and Carson giving rise to Bush.  After all, the liberal media had declared a Bush/Clinton run off before any candidate every announced they were running.
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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 11:36:21 pm »
The question they better all prepare for, the one in the top of the news right now, is the refugee problem.  Not sure how the question will be stated, but it will be design to trip up those that have to answer it. The outcome they will hope for is either  the candidate will sound like a heartless SOB, or one that's too-welcoming which can dislodge that candidate's strong borders supporters.  Who will have the wisdom of Solomon?
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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2015, 11:44:48 pm »
Mitt Romney jumping back in would certainly liven thing up. I fought hard for Romney in '12. But, his timidity against Obama in debate was disappointing. And his loss to him was a crushing blow to me. I kept off this board for many months after that, paying no attention to politics.

But, a lot of water under the bridge since then. There are bright stars in the current crop of GOP candidates. Many I could easily support. Every time I hear Walker interviewed I am impressed by his strong conservative stances. His push against government unions is a big winner for me.

And then there's Carly Fiorina whose rhetorical skills are matched only by Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee and perhaps John Kasich.

Of course, I like Trump. But, unless he steps up his game on policy points and softens his heated rhetoric, I'm not sure I could follow him to the ends of the earth.

Ronmey 2.0? I'm not so sure about that.


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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 12:32:56 am »
Well, obviously you and I disagree on Trump, and that polls in Florida favor him over Bush or Rubio.  We do agree on one thing; Trump has to come across more "presidential" tomorrow night in the debates.  A lot is going to depend on the questions that CNN asks.  Hewitt has already asked some tough questions of both Carson and Trump and I'm hoping that both are prepared.  CNN would love nothing more than to crush Trump and Carson giving rise to Bush.  After all, the liberal media had declared a Bush/Clinton run off before any candidate every announced they were running.

If Trump is anything but Trump he will start falling. We have basically 16- 17 candidates that have done very little outside of Gov't and those that did were not successful except Carson in medicine. Don't anyone try and sell that Carly was successful at HP. All are political correct and talk a lot but DO nothing after getting elected. If Trump turns into one of those jackasses he will be done but he is smarter than that. You don't build that business he has built around the world and interface with leaders of other countries and not be Presidential and keep you poise if that is what you mean by presidential. Trump is leading everyone thus far by being Trump and should not change a thing. The RINOGOP put out the marching orders to the other candidates to make Trump look like a idiot tormorrow night and attack him personally and I hope they do so. They will die trying.
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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2015, 12:35:19 am »
I was slow to warm up to Romney, supporting instead Herman Cain, and Michelle Bachmann, but when the debates got to them dragging them down, Romney won me over. Granted he was not the most conservative in the field, but he was the most likable one left and experienced plus he had a gift for speaking. He had a great VP choice as well. The popularity of Obama was just too much for any of them to overcome.  Won't be the case this time. 
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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2015, 12:40:41 am »
I was slow to warm up to Romney, supporting instead Herman Cain, and Michelle Bachmann, but when the debates got to them dragging them down, Romney won me over. Granted he was not the most conservative in the field, but he was the most likable one left and experienced plus he had a gift for speaking. He had a great VP choice as well. The popularity of Obama was just too much for any of them to overcome.  Won't be the case this time.

Why is no one surprised you like Mittens and the poster boy of the young RINOS? :chairbang:

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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2015, 12:41:13 am »
I'm sorry but what exactly does Romney have to do with Trump?  If I was a tin foil hat type I'd think there was some GOPeRINOSorosMSM reason why Romney is being attached to Trump.  Anyone gotta clue?

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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2015, 12:47:09 am »
I'd wager that Romney has as much chance of running as Biden does.

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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2015, 12:54:54 am »
He couldn't save us from Obama, given two golden opportunities.

So no.
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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2015, 04:27:18 am »
Why is no one surprised you like Mittens and the poster boy of the young RINOS? :chairbang:

Your insults are laughable.
You were not on this forum when Romney/Ryan were our candidates (you, probably leader of the hate Romney campaign over on TOS) - but this forum largely supported the Romney/Ryan campaign, even though early on, I don't think anyone on TBR had Romney as their top choice. So give me a break with this RINO BS, and grow up.
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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2015, 05:12:11 am »
Your insults are laughable.
You were not on this forum when Romney/Ryan were our candidates (you, probably leader of the hate Romney campaign over on TOS) - but this forum largely supported the Romney/Ryan campaign, even though early on, I don't think anyone on TBR had Romney as their top choice. So give me a break with this RINO BS, and grow up.

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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2015, 02:57:51 pm »
Your insults are laughable.
You were not on this forum when Romney/Ryan were our candidates (you, probably leader of the hate Romney campaign over on TOS) - but this forum largely supported the Romney/Ryan campaign, even though early on, I don't think anyone on TBR had Romney as their top choice. So give me a break with this RINO BS, and grow up.

Only to you Mr RINO?? **nononono*

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Re: Can Romney Save Us From Trump?
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2015, 06:45:32 pm »
Only to you Mr RINO?? **nononono*

OK, you got me, I'm a RINO. You must have read my post when I said the economy does better under the Democrats. Or when I said I'M totally pro-choice, or when I said  Bush is probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Or maybe it was when I wrote that  "I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care."   Or it could be when I said I support the ban on assault weapons.

No wait a minute, my mistake.   That was Trump who said all of that.   My conservative credentials are as solid as a rock. 
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