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House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« on: January 22, 2015, 02:19:26 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/230364-house-gop-changes-abortion-bill-after-revolt

January 21, 2015, 09:04 pm
House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
By Cristina Marcos

House Republicans revamped an anti-abortion bill slated for a Thursday vote following a revolt from female members who objected to language regarding exceptions for rape.

The House was originally scheduled to vote on a bill banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy that only allowed exceptions in the case of reported rape, incest or if the mother's life is in danger.

The vote is scheduled to coincide with the annual March for Life on Thursday, when thousands of anti-abortion demonstrators will descend upon the National Mall to protest the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision.
But some Republican women, including Reps. Renee Ellmers (N.C.) and Jackie Walorski (Ind.) threatened to vote against the bill due to the language only allowing exceptions for rape if the victim reports the crime to police. The Justice Department estimates that nearly 70 percent of rapes go unreported, oftentimes due to victims' fear of retribution.

Moreover, GOP centrists were inclined to vote against the measure due to concerns over how it would play in their districts. The vote count consequently appeared in trouble.

Members of the House Rules Committee, which determines how legislation is considered on the floor, were told to be on standby for a possible emergency meeting to change the original bill's language.

The Rules Committee met late Wednesday night to present an entirely different bill from the original plan.

The House will now vote on a measure sponsored by Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.) that prohibits federal funds for abortions, including in health benefits coverage. A similar bill passed in the House in 2014 by a vote of 227-188.

Current law restricts the use of federal funds toward abortion services, except in cases of rape, incest or if the mother's life is threatened.

House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas) said the change in plans came after a "day of discussions with members."

Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) blamed a "meltdown" within the GOP resulting in a last-minute meeting.

"So now it's 9:05 in the evening, we're tossing the first bill out the window and replacing it with a completely unrelated abortion bill," McGovern said.

But Smith insisted the legislation banning abortions after 20 weeks "is only delayed."

"I can assure you it will be back up," Smith said.

Democrats argued that the legislation would do more than codify current law. The bill would prevent women receiving federal tax credits toward their insurance, as well as plans through the healthcare law's exchanges, from getting coverage for abortion services.

The Family Research Council, an anti-abortion group, expressed disappointment that House Republicans had to pull the original measure banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

“While we are disappointed that a handful of members caused a delay in the Pain Capable Unborn Child Act, we applaud the leadership for remaining committed to advancing pro-life legislation," Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said in a statement. "It is time that Congress put an end to this barbaric horror."

Story was updated at 10:20 p.m.
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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015, 02:24:40 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/21/renee-ellmers-leads-gops-cave-on-abortion-on-eve-of-march-for-life/

RENEE ELLMERS LEADS GOP’S CAVE ON ABORTION ON EVE OF MARCH FOR LIFE

by DR. SUSAN BERRY21 Jan 2015
As hundreds of thousands of members of the pro-life community descend upon Washington D.C. for the March for Life Thursday, the Republican leadership in the House of Representatives has caved to Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) and a group of GOP women who believe passage of a bill that would ban abortions past the fifth month of pregnancy would hurt the Party’s chances with women and millennials.

Up to 500,000 are expected to participate in the march on Capitol Hill, representing what may be the largest recurring civil rights march in the country.

The upending of the bill comes as a member of that GOP leadership team, Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)—the House GOP conference chair—is leading the House delegation to, and addressing the crowds of pro-life marchers at the March for Life on Thursday on the national mall in Washington, D.C.

McMorris Rodgers’ office wouldn’t comment on the decision to cave to what one pro-life member of the House called the “abortion industry,” deferring to others in GOP leadership on that decision, but did profess her own pro-life credentials in an emailed statement to Breitbart News.

As CNN reports, the group of female House Republicans “is criticizing abortion legislation that is scheduled for a vote on Thursday, arguing provisions dealing with rape are too harsh, and could threaten the party’s efforts to reach out to women and young people.”

A heated, closed-door meeting on Wednesday reportedly led to congressional aides being asked to leave “when the debate turned emotional.”

“Republican leadership late Wednesday evening had to completely drop its plans to pass a bill that bans abortions after 20 weeks, and is reverting to old legislation that prohibits taxpayer funding of abortions,” Politico’s Jake Sherman wrote Wednesday evening about the new plan, adding later in his piece, “the new legislation doesn’t stand a chance to become law.”

Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ), one of the most pro-life leaders in Congress, argued—according to Politico—that the opposition to the bill from Ellmers, Walorski, and others came from the “abortion industry,” and he compared this battle to the Civil War.

On Tuesday, Ellmers and Rep. Jackie Walorski (R-IN) removed their names as co-sponsors of the legislation. Both, however, took to Facebook to say that they supported the Pain Capable bill and would vote “yes” on it.

“To clear up any misinformation, I will be voting tomorrow to support H.R. 36 – The Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protect Act Resources bill. I have and will continue to be a strong defender of the prolife community,” Ellmers wrote.

The vote on the Pain Capable Unborn Child Protection Act was to take place on Thursday, when hundreds of thousands of members of the pro-life community will participate in the annual March for Life on the national mall. Additionally, over 2,000 millennials are due to participate in the Students For Life of America conference in the D.C. area on Friday.

According to CNN, other establishment Republicans have joined Ellmers and her group, but most of the GOP women “who were seen huddling on the House floor during votes on Wednesday” would not talk about their discussions.

As Breitbart News reported January 17, when word of Ellmers’ attempt to sabotage the legislation over language about rape was revealed, leaders of the major pro-life organizations from around the nation expressed their rage that the bill would be undermined by Republicans themselves.

In a statement to Breitbart News, Conservative Review Senior Editor Daniel Horowitz said that McMorris Rodgers should condemn her conference’s Republican members in her speech at the March For Life on Thursday.

“When Cathy McMorris Rogers speaks at the March for Life, as the head of the messaging arm of the House GOP, the first words out of her mouth must be rebuke for her GOP colleagues for trying to prevent a pro-life bill from receiving a vote,” Horowitz said in the emailed statement. “It is imperative McMorris Rogers use her leadership mantel and stand for the cause of the unborn and against the vocal minority who oppose this pain capable abortion bill. If she is silent on the subject, then she is complicit – her job is to message the GOP platform, and fight at every opportunity against those trying to subvert it.”

McMorris Rodgers’ office hasn’t answered any specific questions about her position on the GOP women led by Ellmers caving on the issue. Instead, her office provided Breitbart News with a statement detailing the personal reasons why she says she is pro-life. McMorris Rodgers’ son Cole was born with an extra 21st chromosome and she has frequently been a leading voice on pro-life issues.

“As a parent and as a longtime champion of the pro-life community in Congress, I have consistently voted to protect every human life – because every single person has something amazing to offer the world,” McMorris Rodgers said in the statement provided to Breitbart News. “My 7-year-old son Cole, who was diagnosed with an extra 21st chromosome, has renewed my belief that every person has a purpose, has a plan for their life, and that life should be valued and celebrated. Every life is a gift, and I am inspired by the community of advocates, pro-life colleagues, and supporters who are working together, united in protecting that gift.”

It remains unclear, however, if McMorris Rodgers thinks it’s acceptable for members of her conference—like Ellmers and her fellow GOP leadership officials—to do what they did to destroy a strong anti-abortion bill and replace it with a weaker one. McMorris Rodgers’ office would not answer questions about that on the record. Her office instead referred Breitbart News to House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s team, as it is McCarthy who makes decisions about legislation that goes to the floor in conjunction with Speaker John Boehner.

McCarthy’s office hasn’t immediately responded to a request for comment.
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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2015, 02:49:40 pm »
The federal government should have no authority to regulate abortion.  Our objection to Roe v Wade is that it imposes false federal authority into an area that should be none of its business.  Now why all of a sudden must the feds dictate to the entire country when a fetus is viable and when it is not? 

Leave this to the states.

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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2015, 04:00:01 pm »
The federal government should have no authority to regulate abortion.  Our objection to Roe v Wade is that it imposes false federal authority into an area that should be none of its business.  Now why all of a sudden must the feds dictate to the entire country when a fetus is viable and when it is not? 

Leave this to the states.

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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2015, 04:04:01 pm »
The federal government should have no authority to regulate abortion.  Our objection to Roe v Wade is that it imposes false federal authority into an area that should be none of its business.  Now why all of a sudden must the feds dictate to the entire country when a fetus is viable and when it is not? 

Leave this to the states.

It's not 'all of a sudden,' mass.  Since Roe v Wade falsely brought abortion under federal authority, the only recourse is to stop it federally, and RETURN it to the states.
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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2015, 04:18:56 pm »
It's not 'all of a sudden,' mass.  Since Roe v Wade falsely brought abortion under federal authority, the only recourse is to stop it federally, and RETURN it to the states.

Then legislation needs to be written to that effect. Creating a new federal standard to tell every state what is and is not a "viable" fetus goes outside the constitutional limits the framers of the constitution intended. 

If abortion is "murder" then it needs to be treated like murder.  We don't have federal statutes against murder.  We leave it to each state to determine what is murder within the confines of its territory.

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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2015, 04:19:52 pm »
It's not 'all of a sudden,' mass.  Since Roe v Wade falsely brought abortion under federal authority, the only recourse is to stop it federally, and RETURN it to the states.

Since five unelected  folks in black robes found a right to privacy in a PENUMBRA of the Constitution!
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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2015, 04:22:45 pm »
The federal government should have no authority to regulate abortion.  Our objection to Roe v Wade is that it imposes false federal authority into an area that should be none of its business.  Now why all of a sudden must the feds dictate to the entire country when a fetus is viable and when it is not? 

Leave this to the states.

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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2015, 04:34:07 pm »
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/230388-pelosi-jabs-republicans-for-abandoning-abortion-bill
Pelosi: New abortion bill 'worse' than last

By Sarah Ferris - 01/22/15 10:43 AM EST

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is arguing that a new GOP abortion bill is “even worse” than the more contentious legislation that Republicans tabled late Wednesday.

“If for cosmetic reason, [Republican leaders] thought this was a good idea, now they’re going to a much worse bill and I don’t know what progress there is,” she said at a news conference on Thursday. “This was not a success for women and their reproductive health.”

GOP leaders made a last-minute switch late Wednesday after multiple centrist and female Republicans revolted against the previous bill’s language on rape. The House will consider the new legislation on Thursday, the anniversary of the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision.

“This isn’t about an improvement because of the actions that were taken yesterday,” Pelosi said. “It’s a much broader bill.”

“Obviously, we will be strenuously opposing that legislation,” she said. 

Pelosi said that, unlike the bill to ban abortions after 20 weeks, the new GOP effort to ban federal funding for abortion would affect “millions of women.”

The House was originally scheduled to vote on a bill banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy that only allowed exceptions in the case of reported rape, incest or if the mother's life is in danger.

The chamber will now vote on an alternative bill that would permanently ban the use of federal funds for abortion. The vote is scheduled to coincide with the annual March for Life, when thousands of anti-abortion demonstrators will descend upon the National Mall.
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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2015, 10:40:03 pm »
The chamber will now vote on an alternative bill that would permanently ban the use of federal funds for abortion.

Now that makes a hell of a lot more sense.

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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 04:32:09 pm »
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/230388-pelosi-jabs-republicans-for-abandoning-abortion-bill
Pelosi: New abortion bill 'worse' than last

By Sarah Ferris - 01/22/15 10:43 AM EST

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is arguing that a new GOP abortion bill is “even worse” than the more contentious legislation that Republicans tabled late Wednesday.

“If for cosmetic reason, [Republican leaders] thought this was a good idea, now they’re going to a much worse bill and I don’t know what progress there is,” she said at a news conference on Thursday. “This was not a success for women and their reproductive health.”

GOP leaders made a last-minute switch late Wednesday after multiple centrist and female Republicans revolted against the previous bill’s language on rape. The House will consider the new legislation on Thursday, the anniversary of the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision.

“This isn’t about an improvement because of the actions that were taken yesterday,” Pelosi said. “It’s a much broader bill.”

“Obviously, we will be strenuously opposing that legislation,” she said. 

Pelosi said that, unlike the bill to ban abortions after 20 weeks, the new GOP effort to ban federal funding for abortion would affect “millions of women.”

The House was originally scheduled to vote on a bill banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy that only allowed exceptions in the case of reported rape, incest or if the mother's life is in danger.

The chamber will now vote on an alternative bill that would permanently ban the use of federal funds for abortion. The vote is scheduled to coincide with the annual March for Life, when thousands of anti-abortion demonstrators will descend upon the National Mall.
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Re: House GOP changes abortion bill after revolt
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 05:59:25 pm »
This makes me sick!  I just knew the Republicans would figure out a way to screw this up.  Meanwhile 5 month unborn babies who can feel pain will be slaughtered all across the country, especially in minority communities.  I marched in the DC event a long time ago and what has changed?
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