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Offline Kamaji

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Trump is selling out Ukraine, but the tide may be turning
« on: November 29, 2025, 12:46:14 pm »
Trump is selling out Ukraine, but the tide may be turning

Opinion by John Bolton

Heading into Thanksgiving, Washington’s Ukraine policy had already descended into chaos. Then it got worse.

A leaked phone call appeared to reveal that Steve Witkoff, Donald Trump’s friend and envoy, had essentially connived against Ukraine by advising Yuri Ushakov, Vladimir Putin’s foreign-policy adviser, on how to flatter the president.

Neither the Kremlin nor the White House have denied that the call took place. Indeed, Trump has appeared to admit it. I met Ushakov when he was Moscow’s ambassador to Washington during George W Bush’s presidency, working with him then and during Trump’s first term. The transcript strikes me as authentic.

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What is not mysterious is how typically Trumpian it is: no coherent national security strategy, from America’s perspective or Ukraine’s; negotiations conducted haphazardly and asymmetrically, ignorant of facts on the ground; key issues left vague or unresolved; self-defeating deadlines and, like used-car salesmen, endless happy talk of an imminent deal.

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Source:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-is-selling-out-ukraine-but-the-tide-may-be-turning
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Re: Trump is selling out Ukraine, but the tide may be turning
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2025, 01:07:01 pm »
It's pretty obvious (at least to me) that Trump has disengaged and given up, and has told Witkoff and Kushner to bring him a deal, ANY deal no matter the cost, so that he can then jump in front of a mike and claim his Nobel peace prize.  And how they get that deal does not matter...the ends justify the means!

It's disgusting and appalling.
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Re: Trump is selling out Ukraine, but the tide may be turning
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2025, 02:57:21 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on November 29, 2025, 01:07:01 pm
It's pretty obvious (at least to me) that Trump has disengaged and given up, and has told Witkoff and Kushner to bring him a deal, ANY deal no matter the cost, so that he can then jump in front of a mike and claim his Nobel peace prize.  And how they get that deal does not matter...the ends justify the means!

It's disgusting and appalling.

Agreed.
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Re: Trump is selling out Ukraine, but the tide may be turning
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2025, 03:22:23 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on November 29, 2025, 01:07:01 pm
It's disgusting and appalling

Not only that, it's also dangerous, because it encourages others ...

Anybody think China isn't taking notes here??
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Re: Trump is selling out Ukraine, but the tide may be turning
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2025, 03:53:49 pm »
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Re: Trump is selling out Ukraine, but the tide may be turning
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2025, 03:57:03 pm »
Quote from: Canuck Conservative on November 29, 2025, 03:22:23 pm
Anybody think China isn't taking notes here??

Japan is taking notes. That's why they're stepping up to say that the security of Taiwan is a national security interest for Japan.
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