Let’s not save the Dems this time

[mystery-ak]

October 30, 2025
Let’s not save the Dems this time
By J.R. Dunn

As the clock ticks down the last days before the 2025 elections, we’re hearing more calls for the GOP and conservatives in general to intervene in the NYC election to prevent Zohran Mamdani from being elected mayor.

What we don’t hear is an answer to the question of why? Why, exactly, should the GOP and the MAGA movement waste time, effort, and political capital to prevent the Democrats from throwing themselves off the cliff? Why write another chapter in the never-ending saga of Republicans pulling Dem chestnuts out of the fire and the getting kicked in the face immediately afterward?

The plan here, evidently, is to switch GOP support to Andrew Cuomo (at least they’ve abandoned publicity hog and media hustler Curtis Sliwa) in order to save the city from the evil sheik Mamdani. Think about that: Andrew Cuomo, brother of Fredo, who spent his three terms as governor plumbing new depths of incompetence. Who never let an opportunity to slander the GOP slide. Who during COVID pioneered the practice, then taken up by governors across the northeast, of dumping COVID sufferers in old folk’s homes, resulting hundreds if not thousands of deaths.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/10/let_s_not_save_the_dems_this_time.html

[Hoodat]

Spot on.  This should be applied to every situation.  Like the government shutdown.

STOP BAILING OUT DEMOCRATS.  LET THEM DIE IN THE HOLE THEY DUG.

[catfish1957]

Not that I take joy in the demise of the dims, but this level of  party self destruction and demise hasn't been seen since our side's problems '74-76. 

I am just wondering if there is one dim out there with the ability of keep them from jumping off the Whig Cliff. 

[LMAO]

Not that I take joy in the demise of the dims, but this level of  party self destruction and demise hasn't been seen since our side's problems '74-76. 

I am just wondering if there is one dim out there with the ability of keep them from jumping off the Whig Cliff.

Yet outside the bubble, Democrats have been doing very well electorally this year. They don’t appear to be self-destructing if they’re winning elections

And we’ll see what happens, but I suspect the Democrat is gonna win the Virginia governorship along with New Jersey

[DB]

The simple fact that the mayor's election is so entirely leftist is a huge red flag on the future of NY city regardless of who is elected. The sane should be running for the exits without waiting for the election results. The longer they wait, the more they will lose economically.

[catfish1957]

Yet outside the bubble, Democrats have been doing very well electorally this year. They don’t appear to be self-destructing if they’re winning elections

That's because of the elections of focus lately have been in Blue states.   Red/Purple?  We'll see.

[DefiantMassRINO]

I wouldn't know how to save the Dems.  I'm just a dumb deplorable ignoramus Neanderthal wallowing in my own mediocrity and insignificance.

[Fishrrman]

There's probably no stopping zombie-mammi from becoming mayor. He's gonna be elected.

But that can be dealt with later on, in 2026.

Do you know that the governor of New York has the near-absolute power to remove the mayor of New York City?
And... that the courts of New York state have little/no power to intervene in such action?

This could become "the issue" that enables a Republican candidate (looks at this time like it might be Elise Stefanik) to win the governor's seat -- IF that candidate is courageous enough to persue it.

I didn't write the following.
It was generated by perplexity.com, but seems to give the details about the governor's power to remove the mayor:
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The governor of New York State may remove the mayor of New York City by following a formal process established in both the New York State Constitution and the New York City Charter. There is no specific, restrictive list of circumstances required for removal; rather, the power is quite broad and is mainly limited by procedural safeguards and the governor's own discretion.
Legal Process and Requirements
   •   The governor must file formal charges or allegations against the mayor.
   •   The mayor must be served with a copy of these charges to ensure they are fully informed of the allegations.
   •   The mayor must be given an opportunity to defend himself or herself in a hearing.
   •   The governor may suspend the mayor for up to 30 days pending the outcome of the charges and the hearing.
   •   After hearing the mayor’s defense, the governor can decide either to restore the mayor to office or to permanently remove them.
Grounds for Removal
   •   The law does not specify exact reasons required for removal. Courts have stated there is “no limitation on the nature of the act for which the mayor may be removed”.
   •   The removal power was historically intended for acts that constitute official misconduct, violation of public trust, or moral turpitude, but it is up to the governor to determine if the charges warrant removal.
   •   Acts alleged must have occurred during the current term in office for consideration in removal proceedings.
   •   Historically, the power has been used only once (initiation in 1932 against Mayor Jimmy Walker), and in practice, it is considered a measure of last resort due to its sweeping and potentially controversial nature.
Additional Notes
   •   The courts have very limited authority to interfere with the governor’s decision during these proceedings—the main checks are public opinion and the integrity of the process itself.
   •   There are other mechanisms, such as an “Inability Committee” under the City Charter for cases where a mayor is physically or mentally unable to discharge duties, but removal for cause is primarily at the governor’s discretion via the procedure described above.
In summary, the governor may remove the New York City mayor if formal charges are brought, due process is provided, and the governor deems the mayor’s actions—especially those amounting to misconduct, public trust violations, or moral turpitude—justify removal during the current term.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/under-what-circumstances-may-t-tl5oLmFhTXCl_kgMv5Hyzw
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Again -- this is the issue that can WIN for the Pubbies in New York in 2026.
Especially if, by then, zombie-mammi is wreaking havoc downstate...

[LMAO]

That's because of the elections of focus lately have been in Blue states.   Red/Purple?  We'll see.

VA governorship will probably flip Dem

Districts that voted Trump in 2024 flipped Blue, Pennsylvania 36 State Senatorial district and Iowa(were a state seat held by Republicans was won by a Democrat and ended GOP supermajority in the state house)

Mayors race in Fairbanks Alaska and Omaha, Nebraska  were the incumbents were voted out  and replaced with Democrats

Democrats have either been flipping seats or outperforming 2024 in 2025


Special election overperformance has historically been a pretty good indicator of what will happen in the next year's midterm," said Nathaniel Rakich, a writer who served as the senior elections analyst for the now-defunct political data site FiveThirtyEight.
In the most recent example, Arizona Democrat Adelita Grijalva won a House seat vacated by her late father on September 17 by 40 percentage points, nearly double the margin that Harris carried the same district. Turnout was around 36% of the district's 2024 turnout for president.

Thus far, the cycle is reminiscent of 2017-18, during Trump’s first term, when Democrats improved on their 2016 presidential margin by an average of 10.6 points across 119 special elections, according to The Downballot. The party would gain 41 House seats in 2018 and win a majority.
Democrats need to flip three Republican-held districts in 2026 to recapture control of the 435-seat House. Historically, the party that holds the White House loses seats in midterm elections.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-have-excelled-special-elections-what-does-that-mean-midterms-2025-10-09/

[LMAO]

The theory I see a lot here is to let Mandami win and as a result, NYC will see the folly of their vote and change once they see the results of his policies


Nice theory. But nonsense

Gavin Newsome won two terms and aced a recall despite his record as governor of CA

I predict if and when Mandami wins, he’ll handily win re election

[berdie]

Spot on.  This should be applied to every situation.  Like the government shutdown.

STOP BAILING OUT DEMOCRATS.  LET THEM DIE IN THE HOLE THEY DUG.

Agreed.  Too bad the media doesn't.

[Kamaji]

The theory I see a lot here is to let Mandami win and as a result, NYC will see the folly of their vote and change once they see the results of his policies


Nice theory. But nonsense

Gavin Newsome won two terms and aced a recall despite his record as governor of CA

I predict if and when Mandami wins, he’ll handily win re election

He probably will win re-election - it takes more than 5 years for the damage to show up - but then NYC will be in the same situation it was in at the end of the Dinkins mayoralty at the end of the 1970s.

[LMAO]

but then NYC will be in the same situation it was in at the end of the Dinkins mayoralty at the end of the 1970s.

Probably

But the demographic make up of New York City is different now than in the late 1970’s/early 80’s

California used to be a red state in the 1970s and all the way up to the early 90s. Now the people who live there vote blue no matter what

Even when Jimmy Carter defeated Gerald Ford in 1976, California voted for Gerald Ford.

What changed? Demographic make up.

[Kamaji]

Probably

But the demographic make up of New York City is different now than in the late 1970’s/early 80’s

California used to be a red state in the 1970s and all the way up to the early 90s. Now the people who left living there vote blue no matter what

Even when Jimmy Carter defeated Gerald Ford in 1976, California voted for Gerald Ford.

What changed? Demographic make up.

But that simply refutes the argument that "we" ought to do something now to defeat Mamdani rather than letting NYC learn the lesson the hard way.

If the demographics have changed to the point where no amount of stupid will change NYC voting habits, then NYC is already lost, and the argument to "do something" about it is even weaker.

The only reason why there might be a reason to "do something" about it is that NYC can ultimately be redeemed, at which point the argument that one should let NYC learn from its own mistakes carries much more weight than doing it for them by "doing something" to prevent Mamdani from being elected.

[DB]

But that simply refutes the argument that "we" ought to do something now to defeat Mamdani rather than letting NYC learn the lesson the hard way.

If the demographics have changed to the point where no amount of stupid will change NYC voting habits, then NYC is already lost, and the argument to "do something" about it is even weaker.

The only reason why there might be a reason to "do something" about it is that NYC can ultimately be redeemed, at which point the argument that one should let NYC learn from its own mistakes carries much more weight than doing it for them by "doing something" to prevent Mamdani from being elected.

The only real reason to potentially "do something about it" is to provide more time to the sane to bail out before the consequences come due. But on the flip side, the sane should have seen the writing on the wall already and bailed before their property values crater.

[Hoodat]

Agreed.  Too bad the media doesn't.

The greatest evil is to hold others to a standard one does not follow.  The second greatest evil is to allow others to hold you to a standard that they themselves do not follow.

Ignore the media.  Let the Dems continue to dig their hole, and enjoy having a surplus in the Treasury.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Those that can leave, will leave.  The remainder will loot and pillage what they left behind.

The theory I see a lot here is to let Mandami win and as a result, NYC will see the folly of their vote and change once they see the results of his policies


Nice theory. But nonsense

Gavin Newsome won two terms and aced a recall despite his record as governor of CA

I predict if and when Mandami wins, he’ll handily win re election

[Canuck Conservative]

Those that can leave, will leave.  The remainder will loot and pillage what they left behind.

Voluntarily surrendering like that is dangerous.

Because, in the meantime, you're turning over all the resources of one of the World's biggest & richest cities over to a hard-left kook.

That's like those who said putting the Nazis in power would teach the Germans a hard lesson in bad choices.

What could possibly go wrong??

[DefiantMassRINO]

What resources?  Rats?  Homeless mental patients?

New York's greatest resource is it's wealth.  Wealth can move.  Without wealth, NYC is just a large island of urban blight.

New York's institutions can move.

College-educated middle class persons can move.

The only people stuck there are the poor bastards who can't afford a bus or subway ticket to New Jersey.