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August 4, 2025
BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
By Monica Showalter

Days after President Trump fired Bureau of Labor Statistics chief Erika McEntarfer, a Biden appointee who repeatedly released bad data on jobs creation with big revisions afterward, the establishment left continues to howl about President Trump.

It's like they like bad data.

Here's Larry Summers making the television rounds, defending the indefensible:


https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1952089865585037614

Now writer Don Surber has discovered a doozy of a BLS internal report from 2024, reported by Bloomberg News, that the agency has been mismanaging data up the wazoo.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/08/bls_manipulated_data_for_years_2024_internal_report_shows.html
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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2025, 03:51:29 pm »
Figures don't lie but liars sure can figure!
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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2025, 03:54:44 pm »
Article was about releasing data to banks before the public, not that the compiled data was wrong, from what i could gather from the article. And not this lady in specific.

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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2025, 04:32:05 pm »
Article was about releasing data to banks before the public, not that the compiled data was wrong, from what i could gather from the article. And not this lady in specific.

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In May, the U.S. added 19,000 jobs, much lower than a previously estimated total of 139,000 jobs, the BLS said. While in June, the economy added just 14,000 jobs, revising downward a previous estimate of 147,000 jobs.

Being off 253,000 jobs in two months is unacceptable.

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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2025, 04:48:39 pm »
https://donsurber.substack.com/p/the-press-supports-an-incompetent?r=eyjkg&triedRedirect=true

I guess we'll have to see how jobs do in August, then the excuse will probably be that the deep state is still in BLS and Donnie hasn't fired them all yet.

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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2025, 05:15:02 pm »
Trump failed miserably his first term to rid his administration of Obama appointees, keeping 1,400 of them for  well over one year.  And here we are again, 7 months in and we have Biden appointees in key positions.  This is just plain dumb!!!    DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump needs to find better people to implement his administration, for the people there are dropping the ball.  This far in, there should be zero Biden appointees.  Zero!!!

And the Republicans are weak against the Democommies.  The Democommies are proudly declaring they are defeating Trump, and they are.  Zero recess appointments for Trump says the Republicans are working against Trump.  Ridiculous behavior!!!!!

Sen Thune is a clown, a worthless clown.  A POS RINO!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2025, 06:09:36 pm »
Well, gol-durn it !!

It looks like Mr. Trump is right again about the malfeasance o'er the figures at the Bureau of Labor Statistics, where at least one "statistician" was playin' the numbers there.

Methinks that the DOGE boys may have had a hand in uncovering and puttin' the kibosh on these numerical shenanigans over at BLS...

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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2025, 06:20:52 pm »
I guess we'll have to see how jobs do in August, then the excuse will probably be that the deep state is still in BLS and Donnie hasn't fired them all yet.

But eventually, they’re going to  run out of people and things  to blame. Right now it’s Jerome Powell and the BLS commissioner.

I suspect they’ll eventually take a page out of the Biden playbook and tell the American people they’re not seeing what they’re seeing and experiencing what they’re experiencing
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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2025, 06:35:40 pm »
Well, gol-durn it !!

It looks like Mr. Trump is right again about the malfeasance o'er the figures at the Bureau of Labor Statistics, where at least one "statistician" was playin' the numbers there.

Methinks that the DOGE boys may have had a hand in uncovering and puttin' the kibosh on these numerical shenanigans over at BLS...

So let me wrap my mind around this

The Biden appointed BLS commissioners initial job numbers for May and June  were higher than the revisions. But she was somehow trying to hurt Trump????????

The BLS initial estimates were not low and revised upward. It appears to me  that she tried to make the jobs situation look better for Trump and got caught.

July numbers will probably be revised downward, also



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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2025, 06:39:07 pm »
I don't know.  I think the numbers were manipulated during the previous admin. Also, there were a lot of federal jobs that were created to make the numbers look better.

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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2025, 09:49:48 pm »
I don't know.  I think the numbers were manipulated during the previous admin. Also, there were a lot of federal jobs that were created to make the numbers look better.
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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2025, 11:40:47 pm »
Yeah is everyone forgetting "DOGE" cuts?!?  The Feds are down 84,000-150,000 jobs (depending on the source) since January and ~12,000 last month (July jobs report).

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-report/2025/08/competing-numbers-emerge-on-federal-workforce-reductions/

And other federal DOGE funding cuts do affect private industry/non-profits hiring/layoffs:

"We are seeing the Federal budget cuts implemented by DOGE impact non-profits and healthcare in addition to the government. AI was cited for over 10,000 cuts last month, and tariff concerns have impacted nearly 6,000 jobs this year,” said Andrew Challenger, Senior Vice President and labor expert for Challenger, Gray & Christmas."

https://www.challengergray.com/blog/summer-lull-ends-july-job-cuts-spike-tech-ai-tariffs-blamed/


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Re: BLS had big problems with data manipulation, 2024 internal report shows
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2025, 01:58:03 am »
Yeah is everyone forgetting "DOGE" cuts?!?  The Feds are down 84,000-150,000 jobs (depending on the source) since January and ~12,000 last month (July jobs report).

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-report/2025/08/competing-numbers-emerge-on-federal-workforce-reductions/

And other federal DOGE funding cuts do affect private industry/non-profits hiring/layoffs:

"We are seeing the Federal budget cuts implemented by DOGE impact non-profits and healthcare in addition to the government. AI was cited for over 10,000 cuts last month, and tariff concerns have impacted nearly 6,000 jobs this year,” said Andrew Challenger, Senior Vice President and labor expert for Challenger, Gray & Christmas."

https://www.challengergray.com/blog/summer-lull-ends-july-job-cuts-spike-tech-ai-tariffs-blamed/
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