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The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
« on: July 30, 2025, 08:29:24 am »
 
The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
Story by Brandon J. Weichert • 12h

The F-22 is poised to remain the world’s premier air superiority fighter for decades to come.
Designed for air superiority, stealth, and possessing advanced sensor fusion, the United States Air Force’s fifth-generation F-22 Raptor, designed by Lockheed Martin, represents the pinnacle of airpower in the world today. The F-22 combines supercruise capabilities, thrust-vectoring engines, and low-observable materials to outmaneuver and outfight adversaries.
 
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As global threats evolve—particularly with the rise of peer competitors, such as China and Russia’s development of advanced anti-access/area-denial systems—the US Air Force continues modernizing the F-22.

The Air Force is updating its aging F-22 fleet, even as the Trump administration has authorized the ghastly sixth-generation warplane, the F-47.

But because the F-47 is experiencing massive delays, the Air Force needs to ensure that the F-22s remain viable into the late 2030s or beyond.

 
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Re: The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2025, 08:51:54 am »
The problem is that the F-22 manufacturing lines and all the tools and dies for building them were destroyed when production ended.  It's too late to resume it.
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Re: The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2025, 10:06:58 am »
America put all its eggs in the F-35 basket.  Means of producing previous models of fighters were destroyed to encourage rapid adoption of the new F-35.
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Re: The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2025, 11:16:12 am »
Quote from: DefiantMassRINO on July 30, 2025, 10:06:58 am
America put all its eggs in the F-35 basket.  Means of producing previous models of fighters were destroyed to encourage rapid adoption of the new F-35.

Yep, that's exactly what happened, like Cortez burning his ships off the coast of Mexico after landing his army.  No going back!

And then Bush-Obama-Biden administrations bullied our allies into buying the F-35s to try and build the economies in scale for Lockheed Martin, and reducing costs per fighter, but that hasn't worked out very well either with all the bugs and delays and poor performance.

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Re: The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2025, 04:50:16 pm »
Quote from: rangerrebew on July 30, 2025, 08:29:24 am

The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
Story by Brandon J. Weichert • 12h
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-f-22-is-getting-new-upgrades-and-why-there-s-no-need-for-an-f-47/ar-AA1Jxm1T?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=0e0f779c47c14c619251f0691fcf5698&ei=74

But because the F-47 is experiencing massive delays

Massive delays? The plane was only announced a few months ago - this is fake news from a fake news military site.
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Re: The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2025, 11:18:03 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on July 30, 2025, 08:51:54 am
The problem is that the F-22 manufacturing lines and all the tools and dies for building them were destroyed when production ended.  It's too late to resume it.

This is not true. Lockheed Martin kept and reused their tooling equipment. Resurrecting the manufacturing process is indeed quite possible, just as it is with the F-16 and F-15.
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Re: The F-22 is Getting New Upgrades (And Why There’s No Need for an F-47)
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2025, 11:08:14 am »
Quote from: MeganC on July 30, 2025, 11:18:03 pm
This is not true. Lockheed Martin kept and reused their tooling equipment.

Do you have a source for that? Lockmart and other have long confirmed that the dies, tolls and know how are long gone.
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