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This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire

Wildfires have become a common thing over the last decade thanks to climate change caused by humans and poor land management practices. Sciencealert reports that something similar happened 13,000 years ago that caused an extinction.

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Re: This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2025, 05:51:32 am »
Just another leftist whacko threat! :boring:
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Re: This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2025, 02:48:38 pm »
This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire

Wildfires have become a common thing over the last decade thanks to climate change caused by humans and poor land management practices. Sciencealert reports that something similar happened 13,000 years ago that caused an extinction.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/this-could-be-a-warning-sign-for-an-extinction-level-wildfire/vi-AA1G4U1g?ocid=widgetonlockscreen&cvid=66fa803857794778d000a2fd1eaeb8d2&ei=67

This wackos have been setting forest fires in the west for decades and now they moved on to the Canadian west.
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Re: This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2025, 04:06:49 pm »
This wackos have been setting forest fires in the west for decades and now they moved on to the Canadian west.
Though this be madness, methinks there's method in it.

How many of those fires were intentionally set?
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Re: This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2025, 04:42:10 pm »
Though this be madness, methinks there's method in it.

How many of those fires were intentionally set?


Some of that is probably true. But there are other factors.

Foremost, I think that city folks are even more ignorant than they have ever been... But at the same time, circumstances are such that there is great interest in the woods, in living off the land - so there is a greater load of these greenhorns than usual.

I see that here. One of the young bucks I know couldn't get a slash pile to burn this spring, so he waited for it to dry out sommore, and lit off 10 acres by the time he lit it at all. Just plain dumb, but could have been a whole lot worse.

Last spring, another one burned down his own camp kicking over an oil heater in his sleep. That was another one that got bad, but could have gone way worse.

That's two I have direct knowledge of, where normal is none.  :shrug:

But by far and away, I think it is poor land management - Ladder fuels have been stacking up for years where people interact with the woods the most... And increased use is driving newbies deeper in because camps are overused and have no resources close to hand, right to where those ladder fuels are.

That's where I would go too - where the fuel is easy picking - I just have the sense it takes to keep from lighting the whole thing up.

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Re: This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2025, 08:22:22 pm »
Some of that is probably true. But there are other factors.

Foremost, I think that city folks are even more ignorant than they have ever been... But at the same time, circumstances are such that there is great interest in the woods, in living off the land - so there is a greater load of these greenhorns than usual.

I see that here. One of the young bucks I know couldn't get a slash pile to burn this spring, so he waited for it to dry out sommore, and lit off 10 acres by the time he lit it at all. Just plain dumb, but could have been a whole lot worse.

Last spring, another one burned down his own camp kicking over an oil heater in his sleep. That was another one that got bad, but could have gone way worse.

That's two I have direct knowledge of, where normal is none.  :shrug:

But by far and away, I think it is poor land management - Ladder fuels have been stacking up for years where people interact with the woods the most... And increased use is driving newbies deeper in because camps are overused and have no resources close to hand, right to where those ladder fuels are.

That's where I would go too - where the fuel is easy picking - I just have the sense it takes to keep from lighting the whole thing up.
Even before we were taught how to build a fire, we were taught how to contain it--and even when no fire at all was the best option. Seems a lot of the "Smokey the Bear" stuff got lost somewhere.
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Re: This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2025, 08:27:55 pm »
Even before we were taught how to build a fire, we were taught how to contain it--and even when no fire at all was the best option. Seems a lot of the "Smokey the Bear" stuff got lost somewhere.

Yep.

Fire is always a useful servant.
Fire is always a terrible master.

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Re: This Could Be a Warning Sign for an Extinction Level Wildfire
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2025, 08:30:47 pm »
Yep.

Fire is always a useful servant.
Fire is always a terrible master.

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How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis