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Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« on: May 10, 2025, 01:42:28 pm »
Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash!

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Retired Windows developer Dave Plummer explains the Windows TPM Trap that is rendering certain computers obsolete.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGj0rVZGfuk
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2025, 02:51:54 pm »
Not trash yet. I'm still running Windows 10.
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2025, 03:33:47 pm »
Will Microsoft be issuing rebates for the licenses they sold but are now intentionally sabotaging?  I seem to recall no time statute of limitations on their original EULAs.
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2025, 04:22:05 pm »
BTW, y'all... It ain't hard to make Windows 11 ignore the prerequisites wrt processor, TPM2, etc., and install anyway. Even an upgrade installation. The street has already gone around the false flags. Windows 11 will run pretty much on any 'i' series Intel and 8g of ram - Though 16g is way mobedda.

I have installed it 'bandit' on all of my old hardware, and it went in on every one of them, and flawlessly... Now, I didn't KEEP them in Win 11, but went through months of updates and satisfied myself that it was all working properly.
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2025, 08:06:25 pm »
Anyone still running in 32 bit?
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2025, 11:12:02 pm »
The thing he did not quite touch on is the virtual monopoly the Chinese have on rare earths used to make chips. Arbitrarily forcing hardware obsolescence will only increase demand for new hardware, and with that, rare earths. Cui bono? China.
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2025, 03:52:27 am »
I guess one could just go something like Lexus if the machine is still a good machine and you don't want to abandon a good working computer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_operating_systems
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2025, 04:08:23 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on May 10, 2025, 08:06:25 pm
Anyone still running in 32 bit?

Heck, I still run DOS from time to time.  happy77
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2025, 04:18:33 pm »
It ain't hardly worth the trouble. As a general rule Win 11 will run on 8th gen intel...

I just bought an HP Elitebook 850 i5 8th gen with 24g ram for 130 bucks on EBAY, Another 30 bucks for an NVMe 512g drive... installed Win11 in about 20 minutes.. SO happy. It's a joy to play on. It's my favorite machine now... for 160 bucks. In spite of Win11.

for those of you with just a machine or two, there is plenty of used machinery out there that is 8th gen intel or better... and it's cheap. Just make the jump. It's coming anyway.

I'm a different fish. There's 8 (I think) active boxen in this house... Currently only one is Win11 (legally). I have a ways to go, and it won't entirely be fixed by attrition.  :shrug:
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2025, 05:59:36 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on May 11, 2025, 04:08:23 pm
Heck, I still run DOS from time to time.  happy77

I'm referring to pre-2010 32-bit architecture.  wink777
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Re: Microsoft's Dirty Secret: Your Old PC is Now Trash! ~ Dave's Garage (Video)
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2025, 06:12:15 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on May 11, 2025, 05:59:36 pm
I'm referring to pre-2010 32-bit architecture.  wink777

Actually some windows phones and tablets were 32bit till recently.  I don't recall but I think my surface installed 32bit. It's been a while, so I could be wrong. Had a little Yoga 11e that I think was 32bit too... Not unlikely on little things.
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