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Resilience.org by Jan Ritch-Frel 10/25/2024

Is the order of the modern alphabet connected to how our shared ancestors counted the phases of the moon and its effect on tides 50,000 years ago? Did the first stirrings of government and bureaucracy emerge from the efforts of early astronomers to reconcile solar and lunar calendars? These are the kinds of questions that have kept economic historian Michael Hudson up at night.

On the surface, learning about the origins of the methods people use to bring order to their lives—such as time, weights and measures, and our financial systems—seems like just another history lesson. One ancient practice leading to another, resulting in guesswork of what people did before the last Ice Age.

But it goes beyond interesting. It’s very useful. The more we can parse out and extrapolate the beliefs and attitudes of previous eras, the more we might be able to step out of present behavior patterns and perceive social problems we keep creating because we thought we had to.

A deeper reach into human history is now possible, thanks to a growing body of archaeological and scholarly research collected in recent decades. Many experts in related fields have speculated that this research will have a large social impact as it percolates through centers of influence and we become accustomed to relying on a wider, global human historical evidence base as a reference. Society will greatly benefit from minds that are trained to think in deeper timescales than a millennium or two—archaeology and biological sciences increasingly permit useful insights and pattern observations into humanities at a historical depth spanning millions of years.

More: https://www.resilience.org/stories/2024-10-25/what-ideas-from-the-paleolithic-are-still-with-us-in-the-modern-world/

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Re: What Ideas From the Paleolithic Are Still With Us in the Modern World?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2024, 10:39:03 am »
This brings to mind the old Geico ad with the hirsute heavy-browed man, who in response to the catchphrase "So easy even a caveman can do it," looks at the camera and says "That's so condescending!"
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Re: What Ideas From the Paleolithic Are Still With Us in the Modern World?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2024, 11:45:32 am »
Wasn't the big anthrological paradigm shift for mankind the development of agriculture and permanent settlements?

If you are going to rely on crop cultivation for food, you need to know the seasons to choose the optimal time to plant, preferrably heading into days getting longer so plants get more sunlight, thus, producing more food.

Of course ideas from the Paleolithic Age are still with us.  Michael Hudson needs to drink Nyquil at bedtime.
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Re: What Ideas From the Paleolithic Are Still With Us in the Modern World?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2024, 12:20:46 pm »
Wasn't the big anthrological paradigm shift for mankind the development of agriculture and permanent settlements?

If you are going to rely on crop cultivation for food, you need to know the seasons to choose the optimal time to plant, preferrably heading into days getting longer so plants get more sunlight, thus, producing more food.

Of course ideas from the Paleolithic Age are still with us.  Michael Hudson needs to drink Nyquil at bedtime.
There is a lot more slop in the whole growing season thing near the equator than there is at more extreme latitudes. Still, tribes in colder regions had settlements that were permanent, going back to cave dwellers, and found with the Iroquois tribes and Mandan Sioux, to name a couple.
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Re: What Ideas From the Paleolithic Are Still With Us in the Modern World?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2024, 12:34:04 pm »
Wasn't the big anthrological paradigm shift for mankind the development of agriculture and permanent settlements?

If you are going to rely on crop cultivation for food, you need to know the seasons to choose the optimal time to plant, preferrably heading into days getting longer so plants get more sunlight, thus, producing more food.

Of course ideas from the Paleolithic Age are still with us.  Michael Hudson needs to drink Nyquil at bedtime.

Modern man, and our very specific functionality in jobs and occupations is wrought with danger.  Even a 100 years ago, men were jacks of all trades, and had the ability to conduct general and variable  tasks as a means for survivial.

Now?  We better never have a catastrophic event.  Very few will survive.
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Re: What Ideas From the Paleolithic Are Still With Us in the Modern World?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2024, 01:02:33 pm »
The way archeology keeps pushing technologies and supposedly advanced capabilities "back" in time and genetic testing is showing that supposedly sub-human "species" (e.g. Neanderthal and Denisovan) were in fact interbreeding with "humans", I think the whole paradigm of primitive-to-advanced progression (e.g. the oldest known written languages are actually as or more sophisticated as modern languages) is crumbling in the face of realities. And I am in no way suggesting Von Danikenesque Chariots of the Gods fantasy.
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Re: What Ideas From the Paleolithic Are Still With Us in the Modern World?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2024, 07:00:28 pm »
The way archeology keeps pushing technologies and supposedly advanced capabilities "back" in time and genetic testing is showing that supposedly sub-human "species" (e.g. Neanderthal and Denisovan) were in fact interbreeding with "humans", I think the whole paradigm of primitive-to-advanced progression (e.g. the oldest known written languages are actually as or more sophisticated as modern languages) is crumbling in the face of realities. And I am in no way suggesting Von Danikenesque Chariots of the Gods fantasy.

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2024, 10:16:02 pm »
The way archeology keeps pushing technologies and supposedly advanced capabilities "back" in time and genetic testing is showing that supposedly sub-human "species" (e.g. Neanderthal and Denisovan) were in fact interbreeding with "humans", I think the whole paradigm of primitive-to-advanced progression (e.g. the oldest known written languages are actually as or more sophisticated as modern languages) is crumbling in the face of realities. And I am in no way suggesting Von Danikenesque Chariots of the Gods fantasy.
I agree.

Humanity 'grows' in fits and starts, with periods of regression.

The most choice places in the Western Hemisphere to build civilization were either subject to volcanoes, were flooded as the ice melted (coastal enclaves), are buried under river silt and later development (inland river confluences). Few places were stable enough over the past 12,000 years in terms of climate or geography/geology to preserve the remains of any advanced civilization, and the whole Darwinian thought pattern that permeated Archaeology and Anthropology was heavily colored in its outlook by the assumption that 'modern' humans are the most advanced (and thus blessed by whatever logic to loot and otherwise exploit those 'primitives').
Yet if you could have the hypothetical civilization truly living in harmony with nature, would it have developed the technologies industrial man did in pursuit of food, resources to feed industry, conquest (because even 'primitive' people want to keep what's theirs), and the desire to work less and do more?

Quite possibly not. Many of our trappings are born of finding solutions to hardship, to defending against being looted and enslaved, or to loot and enslave, often in conflict over resources.

As humanity works its way into an era when fewer people actually do the heavy lifting needed, and things become more centralized seeking economy of scale, the hubs of identifiable industry diminish in numbers and as such, there is less in terms of enduring 'impressive' artifacts to be left for the future. Much of what has been has been recycled, and like a burnt out castle tells us little not told by ash layers, rubble, broken dishes, and the expended projectiles of conflict.
In archaeology, the trick is to locate sites and discover enough puzzle pieces to get a coherent picture, but with enough missing, you'll get the beach, the waves, but not the sailboat.
In Anthropology, the further interpretation of those artifacts to paint that cultural picture is done with a palette colored by the bias of the interpreter. Entire aspects can be missed, or misinterpreted because of that. Thus the benches near the public toilet could be interpreted as an object of 'great religious significance', the path to the beach part of some ceremonial recurring pilgrimage, while something truly held in awe and esteem might not get any notice because few actually went there. 

(That doesn't mean that it isn't intriguing and fun, especially when the lack of apparent written language opens the catalog of artifacts to wild speculation about the culture involved)

But in coming up with anything valid, it must be remembered that these were humans, with all the desires, motivations, foibles, and virtues of any other humans, all subject to the almost immutable catalog of behaviours and motivations we call Human Nature--regardless of the technologies that were means to an end, and more rarely, an end in themselves.
 
I honestly think that is the thread to follow back in time to trace our roots, because that is indeed what makes us "human". When signs of that human nature are no longer seen, then we have gone back to what came before mankind.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis