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Opinion: Liberals’ reactions to 2024: Isolation, insurrection, secession
 
Democrats who campaigned on the need for “joy” and “saving democracy” are strikingly unjoyful about the results of the democratic process in 2024.

Before the election, slips like the one of President Joe Biden calling Trump supporters “garbage” were immediately denied or deflected. But once voters had given the Republicans control of both houses of Congress, the popular vote and the White House, leading Democratic figures and celebrities have dropped all pretense of civility. They are now being open about their contempt for voters, calling them “f—-ing morons” and “arrogant, ignorant” adolescents.
 
After calling for Americans to come together for Kamala Harris, MSNBC’s Joy Reid sent out a heart-warming holiday message to those who voted for the GOP to “make your own dinner, MAGA. Make your own sandwiches, wipe your own tears.”

Those not wallowing in Reid’s anger are increasingly voicing themes of isolation, insurrection and secession.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-liberals-reactions-to-2024-isolation-insurrection-secession/ar-AA1v2lXD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=0802052058a14a2fa923a00d8003d823&ei=69
The unity of government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so, for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth.  George Washington - Farewell Address

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Re: Opinion: Liberals’ reactions to 2024: Isolation, insurrection, secession
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2024, 12:48:29 pm »
Almost the same reactions as their reaction to Lincoln's election. :thud:
The unity of government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so, for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth.  George Washington - Farewell Address

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Re: Opinion: Liberals’ reactions to 2024: Isolation, insurrection, secession
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2024, 01:46:05 pm »
Well, if a few deep blue states want to secede, that's fine with me.  We can either make it amicable and set terms, including their assuming share of the Federal debt, half in proportion to GDP contribution, half in proportion to population, giving us permanent leases on any military facilities we find particularly valuable, pegging their currency to the dollar for a period of five years before letting it float, a long free trade agreement, allowing counties adjacent to states remaining in the Union to hold plebscites about whether to remain in the seceded state and join the new country or to join the neighboring state remaining in the Union and abiding by the results, and paying for a voluntary exchange of populations in which those wishing to leave the seceded state to remain in the US have their moving expenses paid by the seceding state, or we can oppose it invade and impose radical reconstruction. Either way would be fine with me.
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And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was all about.

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Re: Opinion: Liberals’ reactions to 2024: Isolation, insurrection, secession
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2024, 02:05:22 pm »
Well, if a few deep blue states want to secede, that's fine with me.  We can either make it amicable and set terms, including their assuming share of the Federal debt, half in proportion to GDP contribution, half in proportion to population, giving us permanent leases on any military facilities we find particularly valuable, pegging their currency to the dollar for a period of five years before letting it float, a long free trade agreement, allowing counties adjacent to states remaining in the Union to hold plebscites about whether to remain in the seceded state and join the new country or to join the neighboring state remaining in the Union and abiding by the results, and paying for a voluntary exchange of populations in which those wishing to leave the seceded state to remain in the US have their moving expenses paid by the seceding state, or we can oppose it invade and impose radical reconstruction. Either way would be fine with me.


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Re: Opinion: Liberals’ reactions to 2024: Isolation, insurrection, secession
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2024, 02:10:21 pm »
Along with Connecticut, Vermont, and Massachusetts, Canada can have four of NYC's five boroughs.  Staten Island cedes over to NJ as does Liberty Island.  All new Canadian residents will be banned from utilizing US doctors, hospitals, or medical facilities.
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Re: Opinion: Liberals’ reactions to 2024: Isolation, insurrection, secession
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2024, 02:55:08 pm »
Because with them the issue is not the issue - the issue is the Revolution.

They won't stop till they rule with an iron fist of secular theocracy, or they will go down in flames.
The Republic is lost.

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Re: Opinion: Liberals’ reactions to 2024: Isolation, insurrection, secession
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2024, 05:59:51 pm »
Most of upstate/western NY state is red.

Even some of CT is red (northeast and northwest corners).

And as amazing as it seems, there are still a good number of traditional-minded folks in VT. They're just overwhelmed by the leftists in the Burlington area (as are NY upstaters v. NYC).

Massachusetts and Rhode Island -- furgheddaboutit.