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Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
« on: October 09, 2024, 11:23:59 am »
https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/human-life-expectancy-has-likely-maxed-out-5737600

Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
Scientists say that while medicine has increased the number of years we live, it may be reaching a point of diminishing returns.

By Cara Michelle Miller
10/8/2024

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Increase in human life expectancy, which nearly doubled over the last century, may be slowing, according to a new study.

While advances in medicine, diet, and public health have helped people live longer, the researchers say that living beyond 100 may be farther off than many experts had hoped.

The study, published on Oct. 7 in the journal Nature Aging, highlights the limitations of extending life expectancy through medical interventions.

“Most people alive today at older ages are living on time that was manufactured by medicine,” said S. Jay Olshansky, lead author of the study and professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of Illinois Chicago, in a statement.

“But these medical Band-Aids are producing fewer years of life even though they’re occurring at an accelerated pace.”

This is because while people are now prevented from dying from infectious diseases, they are now succumbing to age-related diseases that occur from biological aging.

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Re: Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2024, 11:43:31 am »
If they can't extend quality of life there isn't much point in extending it's length.
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Re: Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2024, 11:52:56 am »
I see lots of 95-100+ year old in my newspaper obits I never say 25 years ago. Now, it is  commonplace to see them. My wifes aunt died a few years ago she was 102 and was  still driving at age 100 and sharp as a whip.

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Re: Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2024, 12:05:58 pm »
That is a silly headline.  Given that human life expectancy is greatly suppressed by infant mortality and the general lack of modern medical care in less developed countries, human life expectancy can certainly be raised without any new innovations, just making what we already know how to do to cure disease and other causes of early mortality available worldwide.
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Re: Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2024, 04:57:39 pm »
Well if we just have the right idiots in the White House, it could be just another 30 minutes...
Globally, it is a statistic that can be dented by another Boxing Day Tsunami, where an estimated quarter of a million or more people stopped living with just a few minutes or days left on their personal clocks.

Under more ordinary American circumstances, a lot of things shape that curve from medical advice, to pharma driven and funded studies, to what appears to be a flawed medical establishment, bent on treating symptoms without addressing causes.

At some point quality of life becomes a factor, too. I don't want to be left drooling in some cot, wheeled around and just consuming without being able to give back to the family that I have helped support to varying degrees over generations.

That doesn't mean it all has to be spent doing the things I know how to do if I can pass on the knowledge and skills and let younger backs do the lifting, but I at least want to be capable of that. I'd love to be in my early 20s knowing what I know now, but that isn't happening, nor do I anticipate I could ever be in that good shape again.
It has not been uncommon that those who survived through their 20s here lived to be 80, 90, or older, but there was a different gene pool here before the latest oil boom, primarily the children of the surviving children of the children who survived growing up on a prairie farm or ranch in the late 1800s through the depression--a hardy lot, of European stock (Norwegian, Icelandic, German and Ukrainian), who survived a challenging climate and often austere conditions with limited health care and no antibiotics until their advent. Good genetics make a difference, we'll see what the boom brought in.
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Re: Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2024, 05:36:55 pm »
I'm not a young'un so please don't misunderstand my thoughts.

We can't live forever. From a practical stand point most folks don't have the economic stability to do so.

As already stated, from a health stand point, most, not all, will not have a very good quality of life. There are not enough nursing homes or home health care workers to take care of all of us moldly oldies.

So I'm not sure trying to extend life indefinitely, as this article seems to infer, is a good thing.

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Re: Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2024, 05:55:33 pm »
berdie observes (thoughtfully):
"As already stated, from a health stand point, most, not all, will not have a very good quality of life. There are not enough nursing homes or home health care workers to take care of all of us moldly oldies."

Which is why I believe that in another 10, 15, 20 years we'll see Sarco Pods available to anyone who wishes to use one "to exit".

With a "singles population" that is growing ever-larger each year, who's going to take care of them when they get "on the edge of taking care of themselves"?

Things like the Sarco Pod provoke a moral judgement, but in the real world, they may soon become "devices brought on by practicality"...

Who will make the choice?
This guy, or "society"?

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Re: Human Life Expectancy Has Likely Maxed Out
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2024, 06:45:22 pm »
berdie observes (thoughtfully):
"As already stated, from a health stand point, most, not all, will not have a very good quality of life. There are not enough nursing homes or home health care workers to take care of all of us moldly oldies."

Which is why I believe that in another 10, 15, 20 years we'll see Sarco Pods available to anyone who wishes to use one "to exit".

With a "singles population" that is growing ever-larger each year, who's going to take care of them when they get "on the edge of taking care of themselves"?

Things like the Sarco Pod provoke a moral judgement, but in the real world, they may soon become "devices brought on by practicality"...

Who will make the choice?
This guy, or "society"?



Good point. But, truthfully, if most folks stopped taking their medications there would be no use for such a device.

So, if the meds are cut off....