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Anti-Trump Governor FLIPS, Issues Firm Endorsement For Election

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August 23, 2024

On Thursday night after the Democrat National Convention, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp (R-GA) took to the airwaves on Sean Hannity’s prime-time Fox News show, and the conversation made headlines after Kemp issued a surprising statement regarding the election.

In a pivot from his previous public disagreements with former President Donald Trump, the Georgia governor officially endorsed the former president for the 2024 election. This marked a significant turnaround in a relationship that was once fraught with public disputes and disagreements.

“Well, Sean, look, we gotta win. We gotta win from the top of the ticket on down,” Kemp said on Fox News. “I’ve been saying consistently for a long time, we cannot afford another four years of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, and I think Kamala Harris and Tim Walz could be even worse. So we need to send Donald Trump back to the White House.”

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Re: Anti-Trump Governor FLIPS, Issues Firm Endorsement For Election [Kemp]
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2024, 05:02:37 pm »
These Trump-sycophant websites make me gag.   They spin everything dishonestly just to make Trump look good.  It's revolting.  It isn't Kemp that's flipped - it's Trump.

Kemp said way back in 2021 that he'd support Trump in 2024 if he was the nominee, and he's reiterated that multiple times this year.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/541539-georgia-gov-kemp-says-hed-absolutely-back-trump-as-2024-nominee/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/politics/brian-kemp-donald-trump-gop-primary.html

In fact, it was Trump who attacked Kemp, and actually said this earlier this month about Kemp and his wife:

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Well, I don't want her Endorsement, and I don't want his."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-gov-brian-kemp-snaps-back-trump-after-repeated-attacks-leave-my-family-out-it

But of course, it gets spun by Trumpland as if Kemp knelt to kiss the ring, and Trump is the guy who held firm.

Utter crap.  It was Trump who changed his tune.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2024, 05:12:41 pm »
Someone woke up from nappy-time a little cranky. I'll get you a juice box while I look for your binky.
LOL! You are just butthurt because Trump is winning. If you can't take it, then Go whine and cry with your own kind at DU. LOL!

Guess you agree given that you had no fact-based response at all.  Little Donnie has to start playing nice because someone told him he's blowing it.

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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2024, 05:26:44 pm »
Guess you agree given that you had no fact-based response at all.  Little Donnie has to start playing nice because someone told him he's blowing it.
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Re: Anti-Trump Governor FLIPS, Issues Firm Endorsement For Election [Kemp]
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2024, 05:36:21 pm »
Many of us who dislike Trump, and were against him in the primaries, now will vote for him.

As old and stale as the binary argument is.  It has never been more true.  Plus...  It should give every Briefer chills on their spine, with Kamel-uh talking seriously about taxing unrealized capital gains. I hope 100% of you understand and realize what that means.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2024, 05:39:00 pm »
Many of us who dislike Trump, and were against him in the primaries, now will vote for him.

As old and stale as the binary argument is.  It has never been more true.  Plus...  It should give every Briefer chills on their spine, with Kamel-uh talking seriously about taxing unrealized capital gains. I hope 100% of you understand and realize what that means.

I noticed that @catfish1957  -- taxing unrealized capital gains would be an absolute disaster -- I might as well take all my money and put it underneath my mattress for a rainy day.

I hope people are paying attention to how detrimental she's going to be for this country.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2024, 05:42:21 pm »
These Trump-sycophant websites make me gag.   They spin everything dishonestly just to make Trump look good.  It's revolting.  It isn't Kemp that's flipped - it's Trump.

Kemp said way back in 2021 that he'd support Trump in 2024 if he was the nominee, and he's reiterated that multiple times this year.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/541539-georgia-gov-kemp-says-hed-absolutely-back-trump-as-2024-nominee/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/politics/brian-kemp-donald-trump-gop-primary.html

In fact, it was Trump who attacked Kemp, and actually said this earlier this month about Kemp and his wife:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-gov-brian-kemp-snaps-back-trump-after-repeated-attacks-leave-my-family-out-it

But of course, it gets spun by Trumpland as if Kemp knelt to kiss the ring, and Trump is the guy who held firm.

Utter crap.  It was Trump who changed his tune.

Georgia Awards $107M Voting Machine Contract to Dominion

Any ideas about how that happened? Surely the fact that that Kemp's former Chief of staff then being one of Dominion's big time lobbyists didn't have anything to do with it. /S
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Re: Anti-Trump Governor FLIPS, Issues Firm Endorsement For Election [Kemp]
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2024, 05:43:26 pm »
Many of us who dislike Trump, and were against him in the primaries, now will vote for him.

As old and stale as the binary argument is.  It has never been more true.  Plus...  It should give every Briefer chills on their spine, with Kamel-uh talking seriously about taxing unrealized capital gains. I hope 100% of you understand and realize what that means.



Totally agree!

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2024, 05:44:23 pm »

Many of us who dislike Trump, and were against him in the primaries, now will vote for him.

As old and stale as the binary argument is.  It has never been more true.  Plus...  It should give every Briefer chills on their spine, with Kamel-uh talking seriously about taxing unrealized capital gains. I hope 100% of you understand and realize what that means.
I understand unrealized gains in a very real way. During my divorce the judge ruled that with my educational background and my credentials and experience, that I would be making much more than my current salary very quickly.

When she set the alimony amount, she based it on present and "potential earnings". It sounds like a comedy skit, but it was all too real. She added more to the amount I had to pay based on how much she assumed I would make in the future with no basis in reality other than her own opinion.

Essentially, I wound up paying alimony on an "unrealized salary" which she assumed I would make. Additionally, I had to recertify the amount every four years just to 'make sure' I did not get away with keeping my own money.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2024, 05:45:42 pm »
I noticed that @catfish1957  -- taxing unrealized capital gains would be an absolute disaster -- I might as well take all my money and put it underneath my mattress for a rainy day.

I hope people are paying attention to how detrimental she's going to be for this country.

Even worse.  If we as the No. 1 economic power in the country, we would see a massive exodus and sell off of equities.  The 40K DOW would swirl the drain to a bottom of about 10K.  IRA'a and 401K's evaluations will collapse.  We'll become a 3rd world hell hole in 3-5 years.

95% of the country does not understand the reprecussions. This is basically USSR like wealth confiscation.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2024, 05:49:09 pm »
I understand unrealized gains in a very real way. During my divorce the judge ruled that with my educational background and my credentials and experience, that I would be making much more than my current salary very quickly.

When she set the alimony amount, she based it on present and "potential earnings". It sounds like a comedy skit, but it was all too real. She added more to the amount I had to pay based on how much she assumed I would make in the future with no basis in reality other than her own opinion.

Essentially, I wound up paying alimony on an "unrealized salary" which she assumed I would make. Additionally, I had to recertify the amount every four years just to 'make sure' I did not get away with keeping my own money.

Damn...  I've heard of this stuff happening, but that's awful.

I don't know how your recertification disclosures work, but is there some way to front-end your IRA to temper the pain?
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2024, 05:54:06 pm »
Even worse.  If we as the No. 1 economic power in the country, we would see a massive exodus and sell off of equities.  The 40K DOW would swirl the drain to a bottom of about 10K.  IRA'a and 401K's evaluations will collapse.  We'll become a 3rd world hell hole in 3-5 years.

95% of the country does not understand the reprecussions. This is basically USSR like wealth confiscation.

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2024, 06:04:01 pm »

Damn...  I've heard of this stuff happening, but that's awful.
I don't know how your recertification disclosures work, but is there some way to front-end your IRA to temper the pain?
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No. The amount was based on my household gross income. What that means is, if I remarry which of course I never did, my new wife's income would be included in the household income. That means, my new bride could wind up indirectly paying part of the alimony to my ex-wife.

Insanity does not begin to describe it. But divorce law is always absurd more often than not. The big pro-divorce push in the 70s/80s incentivized divorce in favor of the woman in extreme and ridiculous ways. And not just for professionals. Welfare participants were also motivated to divorce with various government programs.

Some switch flipped several decades ago, which caused the U.S. Government to promote and incentivize divorce in every possible way, including with how tax laws work.

BUT, I must apologize for hijacking the thread. I did not mean to.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2024, 06:30:03 pm »
@Maj. Bill Martin

Nobody on this site wrote a single line of the article. It was posted here as part of the general 'news' atmosphere.
If there is a Trump-sycophant website involved, it would be the website which wrote and published it, not us.

Right.  And that's the Trump-sycophant website.

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If you disagree with the article then that's fine. But to trash TBR for it is misguided.

If I had trashed TBR, you'd be right. But I didn't.  I thought it was clear I was referring to the source of the article, not TBR.

It just seems weird to me that so many of these websites that have popped up that amount to Trump fan sites seem utterly incapable of ever acknowledging that he is anything less than perfect.  Do they just not understand that they lose credibility when they do that?

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2024, 06:31:27 pm »
Right.  And that's the Trump-sycophant website.

If I had trashed TBR, you'd be right. But I didn't.  I thought it was clear I was referring to the source of the article, not TBR.

It just seems weird to me that so many of these websites that have popped up that amount to Trump fan sites seem utterly incapable of ever acknowledging that he is anything less than perfect.  Do they just not understand that they lose credibility when they do that?
I apologize for misunderstanding your comments. My mistake.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2024, 06:32:39 pm »
Georgia Awards $107M Voting Machine Contract to Dominion

Any ideas about how that happened? Surely the fact that that Kemp's former Chief of staff then being one of Dominion's big time lobbyists didn't have anything to do with it. /S

You do realize that Dominion won a buttload of defamation suits against folks who trashed it in the aftermath of the 2020 election, right?  Including Fox News, which has much deeper pockets than does Dominion and would have fought if they'd believe they would have won.




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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2024, 06:33:34 pm »
I apologize for misunderstanding your comments. My mistake.

I supposed I also could have been clearer by referring to that website by name.

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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2024, 06:38:58 pm »
You do realize that Dominion won a buttload of defamation suits against folks who trashed it in the aftermath of the 2020 election, right?  Including Fox News, which has much deeper pockets than does Dominion and would have fought if they'd believe they would have won.

Of course they did! The fix was, and still is, in. Hopefully, that will soon change.

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Nice dodge BTW.
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2024, 08:22:26 pm »
Of course they did! The fix was, and still is, in. Hopefully, that will soon change.

 :crossed:

Nice dodge BTW.


No, the fix wasn't in.  At least not  by Dominion.   Whatever evidence you are relying upon didn't convince all those folks and their lawyers who settled with Dominion.   I'd suggest that their detailed examination of the actual evidence is more reliable than whatever you've learned through the rumor mill.

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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2024, 10:01:17 pm »
No, the fix wasn't in.  At least not  by Dominion.   Whatever evidence you are relying upon didn't convince all those folks and their lawyers who settled with Dominion.   I'd suggest that their detailed examination of the actual evidence is more reliable than whatever you've learned through the rumor mill.

I have all the evidence I need since I watched it happen in real time but I know YOU have never looked at any of it.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2024, 10:41:40 pm »
I have all the evidence I need since I watched it happen in real time but I know YOU have never looked at any of it.

From where did you watch it?

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2024, 10:28:50 am »
From where did you watch it?

When you answer the question about how Dominion "just happened" to sell $ millions of  their equipment to the state of Georgia I might tell you Mr. Change the subject.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2024, 05:14:15 pm »
When you answer the question about how Dominion "just happened" to sell $ millions of  their equipment to the state of Georgia I might tell you Mr. Change the subject.

How is it changing the subject to ask how you managed to acquire conclusive evidence of Dominion rigging the election that all those defendants apparently could not?

I don't know how Dominion got the sale.   I assume it was by winning a state bidding process.  But I honestly don't know.

So how did you acquire this first-person evidence of Dominion cheating in the Georgia election?
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