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Offline rangerrebew

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Dear Elon, 1,000ppm of carbon dioxide is safe, we breathe it every day
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August 17th, 2024
 
In the interview with Donald Trump, Elon Musk tried to argue that we ought to be limiting carbon dioxide because we are too close to 1,000ppm, where people get headaches. Not to put too fine a point on it, but we breathe out air at 40,000 ppm fifteen times a minute for our entire lives. If 1,000 ppm gave us a headache or made us nauseous, we’d have to hold our breath every time we kissed someone.

@ElonMusk:  The point I was making is that, even if CO2 did not cause global warming, it is uncomfortable to breathe air with >1000 ppm of CO2. Given that the outdoor ppm away from cities is now ~420 (lol), it is already getting close to 1000 ppm indoors in cities at times. You can buy a cheap CO2 monitor and measure this for yourself.

As the global base level of CO2 keeps increasing, it will cause air quality in cities to feel stuffy and unpleasant, resulting in drowsiness, poor concentration, and eventually headaches and nausea. That would not be a good future.

And then he quotes CO2meter.com which, ahem, sells CO2 meters, and has an incentive to wildly overstate the problems with CO2, which they do.

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Re: Dear Elon, 1,000ppm of carbon dioxide is safe, we breathe it every day
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2024, 06:37:33 am »
So, aside from recycling any exhaled pathogens, masks may have caused humans to rebreathe CO2 at high levels?  :pondering:

It sure seemed to affect judgement and confusion levels, but other factors were likely contributory...
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