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Criminal defendants make terrible candidates — the GOP must free itself from Trump

By Dan McLaughlin
August 15, 2023

Donald Trump is now under indictment in four different jurisdictions over three different controversies.

He faces 91 felony charges in New York, Atlanta, Miami and Washington, DC.

He’s charged with covering up hush money to a porn star, making off with classified documents after leaving office and committing a variety of frauds on state and federal governments in his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Some of these charges are bogus.

The New York case, which amounts to accusing Trump of lying to his own checkbook, is the weakest of the bunch.

Others are excessive and overzealous.

Many, if not all, are driven by partisan politics and animus towards Trump.

Even the strongest case, about the boxes of classified documents, involves charges similar to things that Hillary Clinton got away with.

If we’re judging the prosecutors and the charges, these things all matter.

But when Republican primary voters are deciding whom they should nominate to run for president against Joe Biden, the only proper response to complaints about the fairness of indicting Trump should be:

So what?

Nominating Trump again would be a disaster for Republicans.

The criminal charges are one of the biggest reasons why. Even if you think that’s unfair, it’s reality.

Criminal defendants make bad candidates.

As the old saying goes, politics ain’t beanbag. People lose elections for unfair reasons all the time.

If you want to win, you don’t just ignore problems you think are unfair.

Trump still has his strengths as a politician: He’s universally famous, he’s funny, he has devoted fans, he can run on memories of a better economy before 2020, and he’s not afraid to be unfair himself.

But even before the criminal charges, he was deeply hated by half the country and disliked by a lot more than half. He already lost to Biden once, and that was before January 6.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/15/criminal-defendants-make-terrible-candidates-the-gop-must-free-itself-from-trump/

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We can't let the Democrats eliminate  our choices by bringing bogus prosecutions.  I suppose the flip side of that is that Trump has a habit of making things worse by saying stupid things about his cases, and it is fair to judge him for his own stupidity/lack of self-discipline.

But if it was just in terms of the prosecutions, I'd still vote for him if he was my number one guy.

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Trump faces 91 felony charges.  I didn't realize that then number of charges had grown to those proportions.

I just don't see how he's going to beat all of those charges; they'll find at least one to stick.

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And yet, here we go again.  Trump acolytes took over the plane and are sitting in the pilot seat.  The  GPWS is giving them an aural “TERRAIN!  PULL UP PULL UP PULL UP!”  Do they respond?  Nope, and the destruction that follows is going to be their legacy.

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And yet, here we go again.  Trump acolytes took over the plane and are sitting in the pilot seat.  The  GPWS is giving them an aural “TERRAIN!  PULL UP PULL UP PULL UP!”  Do they respond?  Nope, and the destruction that follows is going to be their legacy.

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If this is what the Republican masses want, let them get it good and hard. They had a choice and were warned so the consequences are entirely on them.

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Yeah, yeah,....GO tell Marion Berry

Oh, I remember him!  Ole Mayor Crackhead.

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And yet, here we go again.  Trump acolytes took over the plane and are sitting in the pilot seat.  The  GPWS is giving them an aural “TERRAIN!  PULL UP PULL UP PULL UP!”  Do they respond?  Nope, and the destruction that follows is going to be their legacy.

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Donald Trump is now under indictment in four different jurisdictions

Reminder:   The crime is the indictment itself.

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If this is what the Republican masses want, let them get it good and hard. They had a choice and were warned so the consequences are entirely on them.

Sounds like you don't expect to "get it good and hard", too.  What's going to make you special? 



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Yesterday morning Glenn Beck was interviewing Alan Dershowitz.

They discussed how extremely difficult it is for President Trump to get high level attorneys to represent and defend him.

Seems there is a group of sixty-five (65) lawyers under one roof whose sole purpose is to seek out and destroy the reputation and careers of any lawyer retained by President Trump and Conservatives in general.

https://the65project.com/
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Yesterday morning Glenn Beck was interviewing Alan Dershowitz.

They discussed how extremely difficult it is for President Trump to get high level attorneys to represent and defend him.

Seems there is a group of sixty-five (65) lawyers under one roof whose sole purpose is to seek out and destroy the reputation and careers of any lawyer retained by President Trump and Conservatives in general.

https://the65project.com/

The MO of NAZIS. Hopefully there will be serious consequences for it - though I won't hold my breath.

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The MO of NAZIS. Hopefully there will be serious consequences for it - though I won't hold my breath.
Well, sounds like a Conspiracy to deprive the defendant of a fundamental Civil Right to me, and an egregious violation of 19 USC Section 242.
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The MO of NAZIS. Hopefully there will be serious consequences for it - though I won't hold my breath.

Correct me if I've misunderstood you, but aren't you among those who are calling for the total success of this Nazis MO with an end to the Trump candidacy @DB

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Correct me if I've misunderstood you, but aren't you among those who are calling for the total success of this Nazis MO with an end to the Trump candidacy @DB
If one can be denied a fundamental Right, then all can be. It's a matter of principle that has NOTHING to do with the players.
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Correct me if I've misunderstood you, but aren't you among those who are calling for the total success of this Nazis MO with an end to the Trump candidacy @DB

Find one example of that.

The only thing I've said that even slightly leans that way at all is Trump was a moron for providing the rope to his enemies when he knew he was under the legal microscope. Other than that I've said repeatedly that the DOJ is corrupt as hell and gone full banana republic in trying to take out someone they hate. So do I think he should be convicted on BS charges, no. Do I think he should just go away, yes. He had is shot and failed. It is time for someone else to give it a go without all the baggage.
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