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General Mark Milley Is Retiring. Meet The Contenders To Replace Him As Biden’s Top Adviser On Military Affairs


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    Air Force chief of staff Gen. Charles Q. “C.Q.” Brown and Marine Corps commandant Gen. David Berger have emerged as the top contenders to replace Gen. Mark Milley as President Joe Biden’s top adviser on military issues after Milley’s retirement in October.
    The Biden administration’s perception of China’s military designs will dictate his decision more than anything else, experts said.
    “I think General Berger would be more unflappable but that General Brown might be more inspirational,” Patrick Cronin, Asia-Pacific security chair at Hudson Institute, told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

Both contenders to replace Gen. Mark Milley as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff later this year are focused on change to counter China, but one is prone to radical changes while the other affirms the administration’s ideological priorities, experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

With Milley, a Trump appointee, set to retire by October, President Joe Biden is expected to announce his pick to replace the outgoing Army four-star soon between top prospects Air Force chief of staff Gen. Charles Q. “C.Q.” Brown and Marine Corps commandant Gen. David Berger, according to The New York Times. Both would differ from Milley’s gregarious leadership style, but while Brown has experience in a key area of operations and satisfies the Biden administration’s focus on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) in public service, Berger has shown the grit to make radical, if difficult, changes necessary for coming great power conflict, according to defense experts and media reports.

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General Mark Milley Is Retiring. Meet The Contenders To Replace Him As Biden’s Top Adviser On Military Affairs

............Both contenders to replace Gen. Mark Milley as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff later this year are focused on change to counter China, but one is prone to radical changes while the other affirms the administration’s ideological priorities, experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

With Milley, a Trump appointee, set to retire by October, President Joe Biden is expected to announce his pick to replace the outgoing Army four-star soon between top prospects Air Force chief of staff Gen. Charles Q. “C.Q.” Brown and Marine Corps commandant Gen. David Berger, according to The New York Times. Both would differ from Milley’s gregarious leadership style, but while Brown has experience in a key area of operations and satisfies the Biden administration’s focus on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) in public service, Berger has shown the grit to make radical, if difficult, changes necessary for coming great power conflict, according to defense experts and media reports. (RELATED: Gen. Mark Milley Complained Of Becoming Political ‘Lightning Rod’ After Defending CRT In The Military)

“As the symbol of the U.S. armed forces amid the ebb and flow of political tides, I think General Berger would be more unflappable but that General Brown might be more inspirational,” Patrick Cronin, Asia-Pacific security chair at Hudson Institute, told the DCNF.

Brown, a fighter pilot and the first African American to serve among the Joint Chiefs since Colin Powell became chairman three decades ago, is at the forefront of the race, the NYT reported, citing administration officials...................

https://www.conservativereview.com/general-mark-milley-is-retiring-meet-the-contenders-to-replace-him-as-bidens-top-adviser-on-military-affairs-2659759245.html

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I'm glad to see Milley retiring, but will his replacement be any better?

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Brown, a fighter pilot and the first African American

I think  we all KNOW who has a lock on the nomination.

Miss Miley is probably going to go to work as an advisor to the Chinese.
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I'm glad to see Milley retiring, but will his replacement be any better?

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No,but the good news is that he/she/undecided can't possibly be worse.
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"With Milley, a Trump appointee"

Another sterling example of DJT hiring only "the very best". /s

Maybe he and Fauxci can have one great big retirement party.
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"With Milley, a Trump appointee"

Another sterling example of DJT hiring only "the very best". /s

Maybe he and Fauxci can have one great big retirement party.

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Give it a freaking rest. Even you aren't stupid enough to actually believe that Trump picked Miley. Trump was brand new to politics,and nominated the man someone else picked and recommended.

When you are new to a "field",you MUST rely on others to advise you.

I am guessing THAT advisor won't be a part of his next term in office.
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Give it a freaking rest. Even you aren't stupid enough to actually believe that Trump picked Miley. Trump was brand new to politics,and nominated the man someone else picked and recommended.

When you are new to a "field",you MUST rely on others to advise you.

I am guessing THAT advisor won't be a part of his next term in office.

Stupid?  I went up high enough the corporate ladder far enough to understand the terms and concepts of due dilligence hiring, and accountibility. 

And to that assinine "New to the Field" comment?  Do you realize you basically have said that Trump was not qualified to be POTUS.  That's not me saying it.....  it's you.

And to the also assinine comment around relying on advisors?   That is also basically admitting that Trump is not even qualified or more likely smart enough to surround himself with a first level of competence in his managment team..  That's you saying it.....  not me.

Trump's 1st term was full of failed choices.  Look at the turnover, and the terms of how the people left.
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@catfish1957

Give it a freaking rest. Even you aren't stupid enough to actually believe that Trump picked Miley. Trump was brand new to politics,and nominated the man someone else picked and recommended.

When you are new to a "field",you MUST rely on others to advise you.

I am guessing THAT advisor won't be a part of his next term in office.

So, in other words, you're admitting that Trump was incompetent to be president because he didn't have the management skills that a typical 45 y.o. middle manager would have had by that point in time.


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Stupid?  I went up high enough the corporate ladder far enough to understand the terms and concepts of due dilligence hiring, and accountibility. 

And to that assinine "New to the Field" comment?  Do you realize you basically have said that Trump was not qualified to be POTUS.  That's not me saying it.....  it's you.

And to the also assinine comment around relying on advisors?   That is also basically admitting that Trump is not even qualified or more likely smart enough to surround himself with a first level of competence in his managment team..  That's you saying it.....  not me.

Trump's 1st term was full of failed choices.  Look at the turnover, and the terms of how the people left.

Trump lacked the experience of knowing the ins and outs of government. Therefore he relied on people that were less than trustworthy and/or competent.  His lack of that knowledge was a huge detriment to his presidency.

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Trump lacked the experience of knowing the ins and outs of government. Therefore he relied on people that were less than trustworthy and/or competent.  His lack of that knowledge was a huge detriment to his presidency.

WADR, that sort of skill is something one should have developed by the time one becomes a middle to senior level manager in any sizeable corporate structure.  If Trump lacked those skills, then he was simply an incompetent president.

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Even you aren't stupid enough to actually believe that Trump picked Miley. Trump was brand new to politics,and nominated the man someone else picked and recommended.

When you are new to a "field",you MUST rely on others to advise you.  I am guessing THAT advisor won't be a part of his next term in office.

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I am sorry my friend, but that is not what happened.

First, Trump wasn't a brand new President when he picked Milley.  Milley was the Army Chief of Staff when Trump was elected, and it wasn't until 2 years later that Trump nominated him to be Chairman.  So Trump had a full 2 years to evaluate Milley's performance as Army Chief of Staff before elevating him to be the Chairman.

And it was during that two years that Milley pushed through a revision of Army physical fitness standards that lowered them (to help women).  He also was big on pushing climate change BS in the Army, so the writing was on the wall.

More importantly, Trump actually overruled the recommendation of both the Secretary of Defense and the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in selecting Milley as the new Chairman.   Milley was a Princeton and Columbia grad, and maybe Trump felt affinity for a fellow ivy League East Coaster.  In any event, based on his personal interview with the candidates, Trump overruled the recommendations of his most senior military subordinates, and went with Milley instead.  That was widely and openly reported at the time.


https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2019/07/25/milley-confirmation/

SecDef and CJCS had both recommended instead that the combat veteran pilot and Air Force Chief of Staff David Goldfein be made the new Chairman, but Trump overruled their recommendation. You can't blame a poor pick on the recommendations of subordinates when Trump actually overruled those subordinates and went with his own guy instead.

Milley is 100% on Trump, and Trump alone.

Truth is, Trump is a lone wolf alpha type who doesn't like anyone else being in the limelight, and makes decision impulsively from his gut rather than reading and researching.  Guys like that are inevitably going to make poor decisions when it comes to hiring subordinates.

Reagan came into office with trusted, sharp people like Baker, Meese, Deaver, and Cap Weinberger.  And that is because Reagan was the type of person for whom those kind of people wanted to work.

Trump isn't, and that's on him.

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I am sorry my friend, but that is not what happened.

First, Trump wasn't a brand new President when he picked Milley.  Milley was the Army Chief of Staff when Trump was elected, and it wasn't until 2 years later that Trump nominated him to be Chairman.  So Trump had a full 2 years to evaluate Milley's performance as Army Chief of Staff before elevating him to be the Chairman.

And it was during that two years that Milley pushed through a revision of Army physical fitness standards that lowered them (to help women).  He also was big on pushing climate change BS in the Army, so the writing was on the wall.

More importantly, Trump actually overruled the recommendation of both the Secretary of Defense and the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in selecting Milley as the new Chairman.   Milley was a Princeton and Columbia grad, and maybe Trump felt affinity for a fellow elitist East Coaster.  In any event, based on his personal interview with the candidates, Trump overruled the recommendations of his most senior military subordinates, and went with Milley instead.

SecDef and CJCS had both recommended instead that the combat veteran pilot and Air Force Chief of Staff David Goldfein be made the new Chairman, but Trump overruled their recommendation. You can't blame a poor pick on the recommendations of subordinates when Trump actually overruled those subordinates and went with his own guy instead.

Milley is 100% on Trump, and Trump alone.

Truth is, Trump is a lone wolf alpha type who doesn't like anyone else being in the limelight, and makes decision impulsively from his gut rather than reading and researching.  Guys like that are inevitably going to make poor decisions when it comes to hiring subordinates.

Reagan came into office with trusted, sharp people like Baker, Meese, Deaver, and Cap Weinberger.  And that is because Reagan was the type of person for whom those kind of people wanted to work.

Trump isn't, and that's on him.

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Stupid?  I went up high enough the corporate ladder far enough to understand the terms and concepts of due dilligence hiring, and accountibility. 

And to that assinine "New to the Field" comment?  Do you realize you basically have said that Trump was not qualified to be POTUS.  That's not me saying it.....  it's you.

And to the also assinine comment around relying on advisors?   That is also basically admitting that Trump is not even qualified or more likely smart enough to surround himself with a first level of competence in his managment team..  That's you saying it.....  not me.

Trump's 1st term was full of failed choices.  Look at the turnover, and the terms of how the people left.


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"Rude Orange Man skeers me!",blah,blah,blah.
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"Rude Orange Man skeers me!",blah,blah,blah.

The fact still remains that Trump didn't realize or acknowledge that running a country was much different than running a corporation.  That was obvious from the onset.

Trump's pick of people was very poor and caused him unneeded roadblocks and turmoil in his presidency.  He succeeded nonetheless, but he put people in place that went up against him.

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Trump lacked the experience of knowing the ins and outs of government. Therefore he relied on people that were less than trustworthy and/or competent.  His lack of that knowledge was a huge detriment to his presidency.

@libertybele

And THERE,it is. Like it or not,but US (and probably other nations) politics are an inbred crowd. If you don't "grow up" in that crowd,you don't know  who you  can trust,who to ask  for advise on specific judgements you have to make,or anything else because practically everybody  in office spends most of their time manuevering for more power and a more important position.

In the business world,a CEO can just fire these bastards.

In the political world,the only people who can "fire" them are the voters,and most of them are VERY careful to get as much "free stuff" as they can for the groups they count on to vote for them. The old "You scratch my back,and
I'll scratch your back" stystem dominates amongst the entrenched leadership.

And it is not just Trump. ANY "outsider" would get treated the same way if he just came off the street and his
"starter job" was being the President of the US. The career pols are too experienced to be obvious about it,but you can bet your ass the senior pols in both parties wanted him to fail because HE just "walked in and took over" the Dream Job of all of them.
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WADR, that sort of skill is something one should have developed by the time one becomes a middle to senior level manager in any sizeable corporate structure.


@Kamaji

I honestly can't believe  someone as intelligent as you would post a brain fart that loud.

The ONLY way to gain the experience necessary to be a President is to BE a President. Yeah,being a career pol trains you to understand and maneuver through the swamp of professional polittics, but that ain't the same thing as "Being the man",and you have to know that.

Unfortunately,America is now in a position where a career politician is NOT what we want because they are already so compromised by all the back-door deals they have made that we just can't trust them.

Voting for more of the same just GETS you more of the same.
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WADR, that sort of skill is something one should have developed by the time one becomes a middle to senior level manager in any sizeable corporate structure.  If Trump lacked those skills, then he was simply an incompetent president.

@Kamaji

I guess you believe the CEO of GM handles all the promotions and appoints all the department heads without consulting with  other big wigs he has known and worked with for years?

Maybe he just calls Manpower and asks them to send someone by to advise him?
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Actual photo of Milley and whomever will succeed him.
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I am sorry my friend, but that is not what happened.

First, Trump wasn't a brand new President when he picked Milley.  Milley was the Army Chief of Staff when Trump was elected, and it wasn't until 2 years later that Trump nominated him to be Chairman. So Trump had a full 2 years to evaluate Milley's performance as Army Chief of Staff before elevating him to be the Chairman.


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Yeah,cause he didn't have anything else to do,huh?



More importantly, Trump actually overruled the recommendation of both the Secretary of Defense and the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in selecting Milley as the new Chairman.

Miley was already  the guy "standing in the door",so for  all Trump knew about him was that he was the senior guy in line for the job.

Again,does the CEO  of GM take part in deciding who gets hire to park the cars in the lot?



 
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Milley was a Princeton and Columbia grad, and maybe Trump felt affinity for a fellow ivy League East Coaster. 

Could be,but I SUSPECT it had more with a non-veteran like Trump look at Miss Miley  with all her "I wuz THERE!" ribbons and other doo-dahs,and thought he was an actual soldier instead of a punk that always got staff jobs when there was going to be any shooting anywhere near him.

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In any event, based on his personal interview with the candidates, Trump overruled the recommendations of his most senior military subordinates, and went with Milley instead.


This is the first I heard  of that.


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That was widely and openly reported at the time.

If so,I missed it. NOT doubting your word on this.

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SecDef and CJCS had both recommended instead that the combat veteran pilot and Air Force Chief of Staff David Goldfein be made the new Chairman,


NO airdale should EVER be the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Their ONLY personal experience in combat is air combat,which is a VERY different thing that infantry combat.

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but Trump overruled their recommendation.


I am sure someone he trusted suggested to him that he do that. After all,if you are a CEO and faced with a situation you personally know nothing about,you ask your aides and advisors.

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You can't blame a poor pick on the recommendations of subordinates when Trump actually overruled those subordinates and went with his own guy instead.

Milley is 100% on Trump, and Trump alone.

ONLY because he was the man at the top at the time. The blame ALWAYS falls on the CEO when major bad decisions are made.

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Truth is, Trump is a lone wolf alpha type who doesn't like anyone else being in the limelight, and makes decision impulsively from his gut rather than reading and researching.  Guys like that are inevitably going to make poor decisions when it comes to hiring subordinates.

What we need is a "company man". Someone who knows  how  to follow orders and reach a consensus in order to take the credit if it goes right,and blame it on someone else if it doesn't.

What we need is JEB,huh?

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Reagan came into office with trusted, sharp people like Baker, Meese, Deaver, and Cap Weinberger.  And that is because Reagan was the type of person for whom those kind of people wanted to work.

No,that was because Reagan had been dipping his toes into politics for decades. It was a different time back then,and somone in show  biz  could come out in support of conservative candidates without fear of people wanting to burn him at the stake.

 
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Actual photo of Milley and whomever will succeed him.


They look like my three year old granddaughter got a hold of them with her sticker book.
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All you have to do is look at the two pics in post 1 to understand who's gonna get the job...

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All you have to do is look at the two pics in post 1 to understand who's gonna get the job...
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They look like my three year old granddaughter got a hold of them with her sticker book.


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I gotta admit,I had never seen anyone with so many "medals" awarded to him that he had to pin them to a pants leg.

Just imagine how many he would have if he had ever been in a war!
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All you have to do is look at the two pics in post 1 to understand who's gonna get the job...

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Yup!

And it is a damn shame because no one in the USAF should EVER be the Chief of Staff. They know  NOTHING about ground combat,including the tactics,the supply  problems,what is required to manuever a large infantry or armor unit,etc,etc,etc.

THAT position should ONLY go to an Infantry Branch  officer who PERSONALLY  experienced ground combat as a platoon leader and company commander because THAT is where "the rubber meets the road".
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This is the first I heard  of that.  If so,I missed it. NOT doubting your word on this.

I was following it at the time, and it was controversial even then.  Milley already had been slated to become Supreme Allied Commander Europe, and Trump overrode that based solely on his interview with Milley.  In fact, he was so taken with Milley following his interview with him that he announced Milley as his choice in December 2019 -- more than nine months before the then-current Chairman was slated to retire.  That had never happened before.

https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2019/07/25/milley-confirmation/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/08/trump-says-gen-mark-milley-chair-joint-chiefs-staff/2249369002/

Milley was at times considered a long shot for Joint Chiefs chairman, who serves as the top military adviser to the president. Others in contention included Adm. John Richardson and Air Force Gen. David Goldfein. Sources say some of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis' aides this week were still betting on Goldfein.

Milley is a chatty, quick-witted, barrel-chested officer who seemed to click with Trump. At times they could be seen laughing together, or sharing a joke.

During a Medal of Honor presentation in June, Trump pointed to Milley, seated in the front row.

"A very good negotiator, Gen. Mark Milley," Trump said. "I could see in his eyes when I talk about the cost of those bombs. He's good at throwing them, but he's also good at pricing them. Right? I see it."


https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/674935309/meet-mark-milley-trumps-pick-for-joint-chiefs-chairman

Bottom line is that Milley wowed (or bullshitted...) Trump in that interview, and that led Trump to ignore his senior military advisors and go with Milley.

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NO airdale should EVER be the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Their ONLY personal experience in combat is air combat,which is a VERY different thing that infantry combat.

First, the Chairman doesn't have any command over operational forces -- neither do any of the Chiefs of Staff, for that matter.  They are administrators and advisors.  We've had four Chairman who have been Air Force, and they have seemed fine.

Second, General Goldfein got the Distinguished Flying Cross (twice) with a Combat "V" in the Gulf War.  Flew combat missions there, and also over Serbia, where he was shot down, evaded capture, and eventually was rescued.  Milley saw no active combat in his entire career.  So in terms of personal experience in ground combat, they're equal.  But at least Goldfein knows what it is like to be shot at on multiple occasions.
 
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I am sure someone he trusted suggested to him that he do that. After all,if you are a CEO and faced with a situation you personally know nothing about,you ask your aides and advisors.

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But...you're just kind of making that up, aren't you?   There is absolutely zero evidence of that - there isn't any claim that even his son-in-law Jared advised him to appoint Milley.  The evidence is all to the contrary. Who specifically, as a "trusted advisor" on military matters, do you think even fits that description???  Trump's two most senior military advisors were the Secretary of Defense, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, both of whom were opposed to Milley.  There wasn't any other senior military advisor who would have known more than Trump did.  Those two are it.  And I'd point out that despite Trump now being very critical of Milley, he has never once claimed that someone else recommended Milley to him, or gave him bad advice.  Because it was reported right from the start that Trump just liked Milley from his interview.  Look at what Trump said above -- He could tell from their interview that Milley was a "good negotiator", that he could "just see it".  That's a guy talking about his own judgment, not someone else.

If Trump truly "knew nothing" about what he wanted from the military after two years as Commander in Chief, that's pathetic.   Presidents have weekly meetings with the Chairman at the minimum, but usually with all of them.  They prepare briefings, he sits through them, hears them debate policy and recommendations, etc..  He's supposed to puck that crap up as part of his job -- and perhaps the single most important job of a President is Commander in Chief.  The Chairman is not a command job, and it's not about the intricacies of tactical operations so you don't need technical or professional knowledge.  It is big-picture policy, advice, etc..  He apparently just impressed Trump in the interview, as I posted in that article above.  And based on his own personal evaluation of Milley in that interview (he interviewed the Army, Navy, and Air Force Chiefs - couldn't be a Marine because that was the current Chairman), he ditched his advisors' recommendations and went with Milley.  There isn't a shred of evidence to the contrary.

You're coming up with what you wish the truth was rather than just looking at the facts.
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No,but the good news is that he/she/undecided can't possibly be worse.

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I think all here agree Milley was a major POS.  But, can it be worse?  Sure!!!  And probably will be.

All of you have to understand the affect caused by Obama.  Obama purged the military of some 4,500 senior officers.  What was left behind were not what a conservative would consider outstanding or worthy.  Evidenced by the fact that Milley never saw combat, but made it to Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff.

And Trump has in fact proven one thing.  He is incapable of picking leaders to lead the government.  Again, back to Milley.  Who in their right mind would ever pick someone with ZERO COMBAT EXPERIENCE?  No one.  But Trump surely did.  Uggh!

He decided to surround himself with Obama generals.  If he were smart, he should have taken a look at the men Obama purged.  If idiot Biden can take the idiot running Pennsylvania  HHS equivalent and make him/her a 3 or 4 star Admiral, why didn't Trump bring in the purged generals for a look.

And Trump left 1,500 Obama appointees in key positions for well over one year in office, about the dumbest thing I have seen by a POTUS.  Really, who does this but an idiot???!!!

Trump's history tells you everything you need to know.  He has surrounded himself with his family in his business.  He did the same with the government.  He has no idea how to build a team of people that would jump in the fire for him.  ZERO IDEA!!!

History will write him as an EXTREMELY POOR POTUS.  EXTREMELY POOR!!!!  Why do I say that?  First they evaluate them on their fiscal policies.  Trump ran the deficit up to huge numbers, with no effort to cut spending.  Second, he was impeached not once but twice.  And finally, everything he did was undone by the Biden Idiocracy in a matter of days.  Literally!

Another point of evaluation...LEGISLATION PASSED WHILE POTUS.  I doubt Trump came anywhere near close to creating records on that frontier.

Oh, and one other last note.  He was defeated by a man for his second term that ran his campaign in his basement(literally did NOT campaign), was unable to utter a coherent sentence, and is a pathological liar.  Plus, he was lucky to have ten people at any rally he held, the rest were staffers or press.

Another last note.  When he lost, he put a legal team together that promised THE KRACKEN.  What the hell does that mean any ways?  Clearly nothing of consequence.  The leaders of the Duchy of Grand Fenwich were more capable  than anything Trump did.

Trump gets elected again, what do you really expect to happen?  Just more of the same of what happened in his first four years, only attempting to reverse an economy that is in the sh*tter!  Trump says he would end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours.  Pure poppycock!  More Trump idiotic rhetoric.

Trump failed miserably.  His own two key planks for running, that which had folks voting for him, were BUILD THE WALL, which would end the influx of illegals that were driving down wages in the blue collar arena for 20 years, and end DAY ONE, the H1-b Visa Program, which would end the abuse for white collar workers.  He did neither, and yet claims today that he fulfilled all his goals.  PURE POPPYCOCK!

Again, Biden undid everything Trump did in a matter of days.  Not months and years, but DAYS!!!

Trump will get 10 - 20 % less votes in the general than he did in 2020 because folks are just worn out listening to his schtick!!!

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I hav little doubt that History (written by college professors from the coasts) will say Trump was everything short of Adolf Hitler, and worse, or that they just might exclude the fact that impeachments were made on trumped up nonsense and lies and passed by partisan votes.

As for his good deeds being overturned in a matter of days, it just goes to show what is seminally wrong with the GOP. There is so much infighting that, unlike the Democrats who move as a phalanx, the GOP did not get shit done for two years with the trifecta of House, Senate, and White House. A POTUS can only sign that which Congress produces, and the Congress did not deliver, despite majorities in both houses.
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis