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Meet All The Heavily Armored Western Combat Vehicles Ukraine Is Getting
« on: January 07, 2023, 07:57:18 am »
Meet All The Heavily Armored Western Combat Vehicles Ukraine Is Getting
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When it comes to the willingness of Ukraine's international partners to send heavier Western armored vehicles, the floodgates finally seem to be opening. The Ukrainian military is now set to receive AMX-10RC heavy armored cars from France and Marder infantry fighting vehicles from Germany, along with Bradley Fighting Vehicles from the United States.
 

Buy The New Samsung Buds2 The Pentagon formally announced plans to send 50 M2A2-ODS Bradleys, as well as 500 Tube-launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided (TOW) anti-tank missiles and 250,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition, as part of a larger military aid package for Ukraine today. The Pentagon's top spokesperson, Air Force Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder, had confirmed yesterday that Bradleys would be part of the package, but did not provide additional details. You can learn more about what this particular development might mean for Ukraine's forces in The War Zone's separate deep-dive on the Bradley donation.

A US Army M2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle. US Army

Also yesterday, officials in Germany confirmed plans to send Marders to Ukraine, something that has been under consideration in Berlin for months. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz had pushed back against transferring Marders, as well as Leopard I or II main battle tanks, to the Ukrainian military in the past ostensibly due to concerns about what the Russian government might do in response.

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Re: Meet All The Heavily Armored Western Combat Vehicles Ukraine Is Getting
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2023, 12:58:12 pm »
I'm all in favor of up-gunning Ukriane, but we have to stop the sending them such a dizzying array of different weapons system.  Not only does that complicate training of the operators, but it is virtually impossible to support them logistically, and to train mechanics/maintenance people properly on so many different vehicles.

One or two kinds each of tanks, APC/IFV's, artillery systems, etc., but that's it.  Bradley's are a good choice but those French AMX-10's we're crap 30 years ago.  Not a tank, not an IFV...just a kind of up-gunned armored car that doesn't hit hard, and can't take a hit.
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