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Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« on: September 13, 2022, 07:24:20 pm »
Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall

Fox News' Bill Melugin reports the latest on the migrant crisis from Eagle Pass, Texas.
 
Illegal migrants dressed in full camouflage were spotted by Fox News cameras being lowered over an Arizona border wall Tuesday by human smugglers.


The illegal border crossings happened just days after Vice President Kamala Harris claimed the nation's borders were "secure."

The video is only the latest incident of illegal immigration impacting Arizona and other border states.

However, messaging from the White House continues to brush off concern about the onslaught of migrants, claiming that the crisis is not out of hand.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6312263813112#sp=show-clips
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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2022, 03:51:58 am »
Don't get your panties all in a wad over cammies. I see goobers wearing camo shirts or pants practically every day standing in line at the grocery store or at Hardees. Don't mean a thing.

BTW,just in case anyone is curious,"No,I do NOT own a single article of camo clothing. Not even a hat."

Nor have I ever owned or worn any. Not even when I was in VN.
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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2022, 04:11:50 am »
Don't get your panties all in a wad over cammies. I see goobers wearing camo shirts or pants practically every day standing in line at the grocery store or at Hardees. Don't mean a thing.

BTW,just in case anyone is curious,"No,I do NOT own a single article of camo clothing. Not even a hat."

Nor have I ever owned or worn any. Not even when I was in VN.

I saw the vid, some appeared to have been carrying AR-15 type rifles on slings.  I see those BDUs around, worn by civvies, no big deal around here.
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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2022, 04:13:21 am »
Don't get your panties all in a wad over cammies. I see goobers wearing camo shirts or pants practically every day standing in line at the grocery store or at Hardees. Don't mean a thing.

BTW,just in case anyone is curious,"No,I do NOT own a single article of camo clothing. Not even a hat."

Nor have I ever owned or worn any. Not even when I was in VN.

My favorite color is camo. Jussayin.


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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2022, 06:28:43 am »
I saw the vid, some appeared to have been carrying AR-15 type rifles on slings.  I see those BDUs around, worn by civvies, no big deal around here.


@Cyber Liberty d

I have to admit I am not too thrilled to see random civilians carrying rifles at political demonstrations. There is no way of knowing who is rational and experienced enough to NOT be carrying a loaded rifle with a chambered round,and someone who has seen too many Rambo movies and is excitable.

I like to think that *I* am both responsible as well as rational,but there is no way in HELL you would ever find me carrying a rifle at a political demonstration. It's almost like hoping something bad will happen.

The only possible exception would be at an organized rally by an organization like Gun Owners of America,and even then there would NOT be a magazine or a live round in the weapon. In fact,the  bolt would be locked back so that even a casual glance could tell there was no round in the chamber.

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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2022, 01:38:58 pm »

@Cyber Liberty d

I have to admit I am not too thrilled to see random civilians carrying rifles at political demonstrations. There is no way of knowing who is rational and experienced enough to NOT be carrying a loaded rifle with a chambered round,and someone who has seen too many Rambo movies and is excitable.

I like to think that *I* am both responsible as well as rational,but there is no way in HELL you would ever find me carrying a rifle at a political demonstration. It's almost like hoping something bad will happen.

The only possible exception would be at an organized rally by an organization like Gun Owners of America,and even then there would NOT be a magazine or a live round in the weapon. In fact,the  bolt would be locked back so that even a casual glance could tell there was no round in the chamber.

A little bit of "safe" is better than ALL the "sorry" in the world.

The video was of illegal aliens scaling our fence.  I don't cotton to any illegal alien carrying a gun anywhere.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2022, 01:53:05 pm »
I have to admit I am not too thrilled to see random civilians carrying rifles at political demonstrations. There is no way of knowing who is rational and experienced enough to NOT be carrying a loaded rifle with a chambered round,and someone who has seen too many Rambo movies and is excitable.

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ROTFLMAO!!!

When Jimmy Carter came out here to dedicate the Hungry Horse Dam, the SS and his entourage about sh*t their collective and mutual pants, what with multiple rifles in the back window of every pickup truck - And I do mean EVERY pickup truck... At a time when there were more pickup trucks around here than any other conveyance.

Yet the murder rate here was near non-existent.

No... In that your thinking is wrong. Right to the degree that folks who were not raised with guns are ignorant of their proper use... But that ain't here.


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A little bit of "safe" is better than ALL the "sorry" in the world.

No, in fact, it is not.

Them that would trade liberty for safety deserve neither.

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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2022, 02:20:09 pm »
The video was of illegal aliens scaling our fence.  I don't cotton to any illegal alien carrying a gun anywhere.

@Cyber Liberty

I didn't see the video,but the CORRECT words to describe an armed alien climbing a fence to enter America is "Armed Invader."

Although I SUPPOSE that a lot of the people coming here illegally haven been bullied,robbed,raped,and otherwise mistreated on their trip here,so I can't blame any of them from getting what protection they can get from further assaults.

Having said that,when and if the US Border Patrol orders you to "DROP IT!",you had damn-sure be "dropping it".
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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2022, 02:30:36 pm »
@sneakypete

ROTFLMAO!!!

When Jimmy Carter came out here to dedicate the Hungry Horse Dam, the SS and his entourage about sh*t their collective and mutual pants, what with multiple rifles in the back window of every pickup truck - And I do mean EVERY pickup truck... At a time when there were more pickup trucks around here than any other conveyance.

Yet the murder rate here was near non-existent.

No... In that your thinking is wrong. Right to the degree that folks who were not raised with guns are ignorant of their proper use... But that ain't here.


No, in fact, it is not.

Them that would trade liberty for safety deserve neither.

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A rifle in a rifle rack in the back of a pu,or even propped up against the floorboards and the seat is not "being carried at a demonstration",which implies goobers walking around in a crowd demonstrating for or against something with a loaded rifle in their arms or slung across their backs or shoulders.

Yeah,YOU can be casual about that sort of thing due to the area you  live in being infested with people who know how to safely carry and handle weapons,but imagine for a moment you are in a crowd of protestors carrying rifles in somewhere in the northeast or the left coast.

Armed people that know what they are doing do not scare me in the least. Clueless fools with loaded rifles at public demonstrations scare the hell out of me,and people who are for the most part clueless fools about safely carrying a loaded firearm are what you run across in the big demonstrations.

I have been shot at with rifles on more than one occasion I have to tell you that I lose my sense of humor about that sort of thing a LONG time ago.

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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2022, 02:46:39 pm »
A rifle in a rifle rack in the back of a pu,or even propped up against the floorboards and the seat is not "being carried at a demonstration",which implies goobers walking around in a crowd demonstrating for or against something with a loaded rifle in their arms or slung across their backs or shoulders.


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Oddly enough... That very thing occurred right here when BLM and Antifa showed up. They were faced with a very armed local citizenry. One in three with a rifle of some sort and everybody packing a pistol... Standing right there among the sheriff deputies and city cops.

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Yeah,YOU can be casual about that sort of thing due to the area you  live in being infested with people who know how to safely carry and handle weapons,but imagine for a moment you are in a crowd of protestors carrying rifles in somewhere in the northeast or the left coast.


Yes, I can. Because where I am represents the American Constitution's second amendment in its natural state - your statement ignored that.

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I have been shot at with rifles on more than one occasion I have to tell you that I lose my sense of humor about that sort of thing a LONG time ago.

Me too - Not anywhere near like you - But I have heard that wasp zipping by on a couple occasions. I know what that is... Alone... Far away from any help.

Still the end remains: curtailing armed protests inherently curtails defense and liberty.

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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2022, 02:51:28 pm »
We aren't talking about "armed protests," the topic is "Armed Illegal Alien Invaders.'
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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2022, 03:12:03 pm »
@sneakypete

Oddly enough... That very thing occurred right here when BLM and Antifa showed up. They were faced with a very armed local citizenry. One in three with a rifle of some sort and everybody packing a pistol... Standing right there among the sheriff deputies and city cops.

Yes, I can. Because where I am represents the American Constitution's second amendment in its natural state - your statement ignored that.

Me too - Not anywhere near like you - But I have heard that wasp zipping by on a couple occasions. I know what that is... Alone... Far away from any help.

Still the end remains: curtailing armed protests inherently curtails defense and liberty.

IF I am out of the house and don't have a revolver or pistol in my pocket or under my belt,it is a rare day and a rare oversight.

When CCW permits were up for debate here,I discovered the local sheriff,whom I had known for decades,was debating if he should sign off on it or not. The governor had made a public announcement that if the majority of the sheriffs were for it,he would sign the bill.

So I walked into the sheriff's office to talk with him about this. He and I had known each other since before he was even a deputy in another county,and asked him WTF his problem was. When he mentioned the "officer safety" Bullbush,I reminded him of at least two of his deputies that had came to my house late at night on weekends and asked me if I would grab my 1911A1 and come along with them as a backup because they had an "out of control" party going on in a farmer's field and were by themselves,and that he knew about this.

I also told him,"Hell,I have my 45 inside my waistband right now. Want to see it? Are you going to honestly try to tell me you are afraid of me being in your office with a loaded handgun?"

That was when he told me that I had convinced him and that he was going to tell the governor he was for CCW.

He also told me that he was going to call me at home the day before the very first day such things became legal,and he expected me to show up early the first day so he could personally fingerprint me and sign off on my CCW permit.

He also told his secretary,who was married to a local highway patrolman that I was friendly with,and told her "Give him a permit to buy anything he wants,including machine guns any time he asks for one without bothering me with it."

She replaced him as sheriff when he retired.

NOBODY in or out of law enforcement that knows me is afraid of me carrying a loaded weapon. I have literally been in bar fights with a concealed handgun on me,and the guy I was beating the snot out of never knew it.

Of course,those were in the "days of long ago",and these days I have a hard time even closing either hand into a fist,so I am going to do whatever it is I HAVE to do to protect myself if attacked.

I wrote the above sentence because I can not remember ONE single time in my whole life that I was the one that threw the first punch. Not even once.

Granted,there has been  few times when I felt it was necessary to warn someone that they needed to STFU and set down unless they wanted to be hauled off on a gurney, but I didn't even start those arguments.

Like many people,I grew up in a rural area where there was no such thing as "woofin" going on. If you  started talking smack to someone or making threats in some other way,you WERE going to end up in a fight,and just like in ever other avenue of life,there are NO guarantees. You just MIGHT be having THE worse day of your life that day,and the "wuss" you are facing off with just MIGHT be having THE best damn day of his life,and guess what happens when the terrified wuss discovers he is winning.

That's right. He is going to make up for all the times he has been beaten or humiliated by going "full berserker" on your dumb ass.

The best way to win a fight is to not get IN a fight.



 
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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2022, 03:34:50 pm »
@sneakypete

I am in agreement with everything you said except this part:

He also told me that he was going to call me at home the day before the very first day such things became legal,and he expected me to show up early the first day so he could personally fingerprint me and sign off on my CCW permit.

I have never and will never apply for a CCW nor voluntarily offer up my prints or any other such thing (DNA, etc)

And I have carried concealed my whole life. In part that is because of rather lax CCW enforcement here - That is true - Coats cover hips 3/4ths of the year, and it is pretty hard to enforce CCW because of coats combined with open carry.

But I will never ever register for CCW, just as the lion's share of my guns have no paper.

And rightly so. "Shall not be infringed".

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As for armed invaders - I don't care much that they are armed. But they should understand what will happen... Play stupid games...
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2022, 09:16:34 pm »
@sneakypete

I am in agreement with everything you said except this part:

I have never and will never apply for a CCW nor voluntarily offer up my prints or any other such thing (DNA, etc)

And I have carried concealed my whole life. In part that is because of rather lax CCW enforcement here - That is true - Coats cover hips 3/4ths of the year, and it is pretty hard to enforce CCW because of coats combined with open carry.

But I will never ever register for CCW, just as the lion's share of my guns have no paper.

And rightly so. "Shall not be infringed".

But I will quit this sidebar with that... Cyber is saying he doesn't want the hijack.  :beer:

As for armed invaders - I don't care much that they are armed. But they should understand what will happen... Play stupid games...

@roamer_1

By the time I was 18 I was in the US Army and had a Top Secret Crypto clearance,so that ship sailed a LONG time ago.
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Re: Fox News video captures migrants in camo scaling Arizona wall
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2022, 11:41:06 pm »
Waters  just reported that some illegals have been sent to Martha's Vineyard, compliments of Ron DeSantis.

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2022, 01:20:00 am »
Waters  just reported that some illegals have been sent to Martha's Vineyard, compliments of Ron DeSantis.

 :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:

I just saw that!  It's glorious!!!
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