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Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« on: November 14, 2019, 02:25:06 am »
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Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
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Chinese experts will participate in the restoration of France's Notre-Dame cathedral, state media reported on Wednesday, following a meeting between the two countries' heads of state in Beijing.

The 850-year-old cathedral, which was scarred in April after a fire tore through its roof and toppled its spire, was the most visited historic monument in Europe.

Since the blaze, which took 400 firefighters to control, Chinese and French authorities have been in touch about cooperating on restoration efforts, reported official news agency Xinhua.  ...

 Citing a document signed by the two countries during President Emmanuel Macron's visit to Beijing, Xinhua said Chinese experts will work with French teams in on-site restoration without elaborating.

"China and France will collaborate on the theme and model and select Chinese expert candidates for the cooperative restoration work in 2020," it said. ...
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Maybe the Chinese will invite the French to rebuild the Christian churches in China that the government has destroyed.
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2021, 02:59:08 pm »
Maybe this is the result of having communists involved in the rebuilding:
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Paris' fire-ravaged Notre-Dame cathedral risks resembling a "politically correct Disneyland"

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Red circleExclusive: Paris' fire-ravaged Notre-Dame cathedral risks resembling a "politically correct Disneyland" under controversial plans for its renovation seen by the @TelegraphWorld - https://t.co/SmSKeX2Qrh?amp=1

The famed Gothic cathedral was severely damaged by fire in 2019.  Those parts of the building that were damaged by fire will be restored to their former condition, but under the new plans some areas that were less affected by the disaster will be dramatically changed.

A global wave of emotion saw 340,000 donors contribute €833m to restoring the iconic edifice.  €165m has already been spent on securing the cathedral, which was structurally damaged during the fire.  The €262,6m left will go towards phase one of restoration work.

Under the proposed changes, confessional boxes, altars and classical sculptures will be replaced with modern murals, and sound and light effects to create “emotional spaces”.  Critics are aghast at plans for 'Christianity for dumbies' trail, Mandarin on walls and an eco-chapel.

There will be themed chapels on a "discovery trail", with an emphasis on Africa and Asia, and quotes from the Bible will be projected onto chapel walls in various languages.
 
The final chapel on the trail will have a strong environmental emphasis -  https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/202

“It’s as if Disney were entering Notre-Dame," said Maurice Culot, a prize-winning Paris-based architect, urbanist, theorist and critic who has seen the plans.  "What they are proposing to do to Notre-Dame would never be done to Westminster Abbey or Saint Peter’s in Rome."

A senior source close to the renovation said the plans risked turning the global beacon of Christianity into an “experimental showroom”.
 
“Can you imagine the administration of the Holy See allowing something like this in the Sistine Chapel?... It would be unimaginable."

An even more controversial proposal to remove the stained glass windows designed by Viollet-le-Duc from the chapels and replace them with modern ones has been ruled out. https://t.co/SmSKeX2Qrh?amp=1
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2021, 08:39:24 pm »
Not the same Chinese experts responsible for build this I hope.

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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2021, 11:12:50 pm »
Nov 26, 2021 5:42 PM EST
Notre Dame is being built back better as a 'woke theme park' dedicated to environmentalism and social justice
Using the church arson as a means to “Build Back Better,” each of the chapels will be dedicated to social justice issues, including a chapel dedicated to the environment and others with African and Asian themes.
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The Notre Dame, which was burned down in a mysterious fire in 2019 is being rebuilt as a “woke theme park.”

Instead of rebuilding the historical cathedral as a religious monument, the reconstruction of Notre Dame will be revamped with a “discovery trail” that will lead visitors through 14 themed chapels of varying woke quantities dedicated to social justice, designed to be accessible for non-Catholics.

Using the church arson as a means to “Build Back Better,” each of the chapels will be dedicated to social justice issues, including a chapel dedicated to the environment and others with African and Asian themes.

According to critics who have reviewed plans for the fire-ravaged cathedral, confessional boxes, alters, and classical sculptures are being replaced by trendy art murals, with sound and special lighting effects to create “emotional spaces.”  ...

According to the Daily Mail, officials responsible for Notre Dame’s reconstruction say that the intent is for the monument to be accessible to tourists with no understanding of Christianity, “whether from China or Sweden.” ...
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Oh well, I'm glad I had the opportunity to visit before it was destroyed - first by fire, then by wokeism.
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2021, 11:54:37 pm »
Is this supposed to be a joke?

Everybuilding the Chinese build ends up collapsing,or just falling over.
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2021, 12:06:48 am »
Is this supposed to be a joke?

Everybuilding the Chinese build ends up collapsing,or just falling over.

There's a lot of truth to that.  The homes of several neighborhoods were built with Chinese drywall; it molded, made people sick and tarnished jewelery, etc.Tit was unhealthy for people to live in these house and they had to vacate their homes.  After a massive lawsuit, people finally recouped some money so that they could rebuild.  Using Chinese drywall is no longer legal around here.
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2021, 12:14:59 am »
I can just picture them slapping up Chinese drywall all over the cathedral of Notre Dame.  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2021, 12:22:16 am »
I can just picture them slapping up Chinese drywall all over the cathedral of Notre Dame.  *****rollingeyes*****

That wasn't quite the point I was trying to make --
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2021, 12:24:44 am »
That wasn't quite the point I was trying to make --
No, I know - just kidding.   I was just thinking if the Chinese still are part of the rebuilding, it will be crap.

 I do wonder whether Chinese involvement (read, financing) is behind the push to change Notre Dame into a non-Christian site.
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2021, 01:25:18 am »
No, I know - just kidding.   I was just thinking if the Chinese still are part of the rebuilding, it will be crap.

 I do wonder whether Chinese involvement (read, financing) is behind the push to change Notre Dame into a non-Christian site.

No doubts.   :silly:
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2021, 02:10:18 pm »
A senior source close to the renovation said the plans risked turning the global beacon of Christianity into an “experimental showroom”.
 
“Can you imagine the administration of the Holy See allowing something like this in the Sistine Chapel?... It would be unimaginable."


Considering the current pope, I can imagine it happening there, too.


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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2021, 02:18:03 pm »
So, basically, Notre Dame will no longer be Notre Dame.  So it will have been permanently destroyed.  What a shame.

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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2021, 02:37:31 pm »
Because if there were ever a people who are experts in medieval gothic architecture its the Chinese.

The next Cosco to go up in Beijing will be a perfect replica.
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2021, 02:47:56 pm »
According to critics who have reviewed plans for the fire-ravaged cathedral, confessional boxes, alters, and classical sculptures are being replaced by trendy art murals, with sound and special lighting effects to create “emotional spaces.” 
...
According to the Daily Mail, officials responsible for Notre Dame’s reconstruction say that the intent is for the monument to be accessible to tourists with no understanding of Christianity, “whether from China or Sweden.” ...

Decades ago, I thought that big, fancy church buildings like that were a waste of resources.
Later, I came to realize that such cathedrals
are a testimony to future generations of what those people valued.
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Re: Chinese experts to help France rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2021, 12:46:39 pm »
...and that's why the left wants them made unrecognizable. And the Chinese Communists are perfect agents for that change.
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