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.....targeting 700 wealthiest Americans as key source of revenue for spending plan

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-move-to-finalize-new-billionaire-tax-proposal-targeting-700-wealthiest-americans-as-key-source-of-revenue-for-spending-plan/ar-AAPQhXi?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Jeff Stein, Mike DeBonis,The Washington Post

Senior Democrats are preparing a sweeping new tax plan that would aim to raise hundreds of billions of dollars from the fortunes of America’s roughly 700 billionaires, an abrupt shift in the party’s approach to funding a large expansion of the safety net.

For years, Democrats have argued for higher income and corporate tax rates, saying wealthy Americans and well-off companies should pay more to fund new social benefits, such as subsidized day care and paid family leave, that would primarily help working-class Americans and shrink inequality.

But even after Democrats seized control of the White House and Congress, they haven’t been able to fully coalesce around a tax and spending plan, with Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) expressing opposition to higher tax rates.

Now, an unexpected compromise appears to be emerging on the billionaire tax proposal. Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) is drafting the plan, and senior Biden officials and other senior Democrats are cautiously optimistic that Sinema and other centrist lawmakers will support the effort, according to interviews with three congressional aides and two administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive negotiations.

It is uncertain whether the plan will be backed by every Senate Democrat and almost every House Democrat, the necessary threshold for its passage.

The shifting nature of the tax legislation reflects the challenge Democrats face in trying to rebalance an American economy that most economists believe has grown increasingly unequal over the last several decades.

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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2021, 11:30:55 am »
Good thing these people don't have the means,ability,or knowledge about how to move all their assets out of the US,huh?

After all,who is going to pay these high taxes if the people who own all the corporations move everything they own out of the US,and into some tax haven overseas?

You know,I honestly thought the top Dims were posing as "criminally stoopid" in order for their supporters to be able to identify with them,but damned if they are REALLY "THAT freaking stoopid"!

Or after a tiny moment of reflection,maybe they are just THAT desperate to get the revolution started that will make them dictators before the next election sees them tossed out on their asses,and their plans for world domination set back for decades?

The ONE thing that guarantees them domination is for anarchy to suddenly burst out into the open,giving them the excuse they need to declare "Martial Law" and suspend elections for the "duration of the emergency".

NEVER underestimate the steps the truly desperate will take in order to maintain power,and make no mistake about it,it is ALL about power.

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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2021, 12:06:03 pm »
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Under the “Billionaire Income Tax” proposal, a summary of which was obtained by The Washington Post, the federal government would require billionaires to pay taxes on the increased value of assets such as stocks on an annual basis, regardless of whether they sell those assets. Billionaires would also be able to take deductions for any annual loss in value of those assets.
So I assume each "billionaire" would be issued his/her own IRS staff to track the daily value of assets, smart approach.
There will likely have to be a doubling or tripling of legal staff to keep up with all the lawsuits over the "current value" of assets, especially real estate which is emotion based not reality based.
Trump put a lot of effort in getting people to move money from overseas back to the US and this insanity will simply drive it out of country again, and potentially along with corporations.

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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2021, 01:38:14 pm »
Good thing these people don't have the means,ability,or knowledge about how to move all their assets out of the US,huh?

After all,who is going to pay these high taxes if the people who own all the corporations move everything they own out of the US,and into some tax haven overseas?

You know,I honestly thought the top Dims were posing as "criminally stoopid" in order for their supporters to be able to identify with them,but damned if they are REALLY "THAT freaking stoopid"!

Or after a tiny moment of reflection,maybe they are just THAT desperate to get the revolution started that will make them dictators before the next election sees them tossed out on their asses,and their plans for world domination set back for decades?

The ONE thing that guarantees them domination is for anarchy to suddenly burst out into the open,giving them the excuse they need to declare "Martial Law" and suspend elections for the "duration of the emergency".

NEVER underestimate the steps the truly desperate will take in order to maintain power,and make no mistake about it,it is ALL about power.
Yes they really are that stupid because when it starts them and their families are the first to go.

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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2021, 02:17:33 pm »
The rats will make a big deal out of passing a 'billionaire tax', in the next few years the unelected bureaucrats will quietly lower the 'billionaire' part to include anyone making over $50k, without the benefit of publicity or legislation.

Its how its always been done.

...targeting 700 wealthiest Americans as key source of revenue for spending plan

... although anyone who believes this deserves to have the results of their life's labor redistributed to worthless rat constituents.
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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2021, 10:31:35 pm »
Comrade Briefers, why are you complaining?

After the Bolsheviks rose to power, they just took the money and property of the bourgeoisie.

Here in America, The Party is at least going to first pass a law to make it legal.
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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2021, 02:17:14 am »
We will all become billionaires if inflation rips away from the imbeciles in DC
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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2021, 03:59:51 am »
Take a billion dollars from each billionaire and you still don't have 1 trillion dollars.  Like i've been saying, democrats spending is an economic attack on America, thats why democrats are fanatical in continuing said attacks, mercilessly, re-inventing America until it ceases to exist.
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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2021, 03:28:06 pm »
So I assume each "billionaire" would be issued his/her own IRS staff to track the daily value of assets, smart approach.
There will likely have to be a doubling or tripling of legal staff to keep up with all the lawsuits over the "current value" of assets, especially real estate which is emotion based not reality based.
Trump put a lot of effort in getting people to move money from overseas back to the US and this insanity will simply drive it out of country again, and potentially along with corporations.

No big deal. The Billionaires just move the money off shore again as you just stated. All showtime people. The BIG MONEY people are way ahead of any GOVT plot to get their MONEY. If they have to they cut off CAMPAIGN Contributions  and the politicians will not let that happen. Don't read the headlines but the story. wink777

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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2021, 03:35:16 pm »
People who make that kind of money know how to keep that kinda money.  Just look at congress. The place is lousy with crooks and tax cheats.
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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2021, 03:35:30 pm »
Take a billion dollars from each billionaire and you still don't have 1 trillion dollars.  Like i've been saying, democrats spending is an economic attack on America, thats why democrats are fanatical in continuing said attacks, mercilessly, re-inventing America until it ceases to exist.

Exactly. They are trying to raise billions to spend trillions.
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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2021, 03:36:14 pm »
People who make that kind of money know how to keep that kinda money.  Just look at congress. The place is lousy with crooks and tax cheats.

Not to mention, the richest in America are now liberal Democrats. Talk about tilting at windmills.
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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2021, 03:41:28 pm »
Watch the expatriations skyrocket.  The smart ones are getting out already.

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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2021, 04:30:09 pm »
People who make that kind of money know how to keep that kinda money.  Just look at congress. The place is lousy with crooks and tax cheats.

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Re: Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal,......
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2021, 08:25:35 pm »
People who make that kind of money know how to keep that kinda money.  Just look at congress. The place is lousy with crooks and tax cheats.

Agree if you make that kind of money ( except Pro Jocks) you know or learn how to keep it along the way. If you inherit the big bucks the tax lawyers are all ready in place. :yowsa: