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Chris Wallace: "So You're Saying This Mask I've Been Wearing For A Year Isn't Really Protecting Me Very Much?"

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On Date September 6, 2021

"FOX News Sunday" host Chris Wallace discovered during an interview with the dean of Brown University's School of Public Health, Dr. Ashish Jha, that standard cloth masks do very little to stop the spread of COVID-19.

"So you're saying this mask I've been wearing for a year isn't really protecting me very much?" Wallace asked.

"You probably need to upgrade your mask, Chris," Jha told him.

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    CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS: I read a report, actually several reports this week, that cloth masks, which, frankly, are the kinds of masks I usually wear, are not really effective. Is that true?

    DR. ASHISH JHA, DEAN, BROWN UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH: Yes, cloth masks, unto themselves, generally not effective. That's why I think surgical masks are better. There are, of course, higher-quality masks. Cloth masks may be ten or 20 percent effective, not great against the delta variant.

    WALLACE: So you're saying this mask I've been wearing for a year isn't really protecting me very much?

    JHA: I'm saying that given the delta variant that's out there, you probably need to upgrade your mask, Chris.

    WALLACE: Well, thank you for that and I think a lot of people thank you.




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Been saying that from the beginning. 'Masks' are not effective. Especially without eye protection and gloves along with them.

Fauci and his Democrat Masters are selling the mask schtick as a 'magic talisman' that will magically save you and your loved ones from COVID.

Just like the snake oil magic cure-all in the 1800s, masks are not supported by science or by simple reality for doing anything to prevent a microscopic virus.

Masks in America are like swastikas in the 1930s. They are an outward symbol of 'obedience' and allegiance to State control. This is why the mask Nazis' heads explode when they see somebody not wearing one. It is not about COVID, it is about obedience and doing what you are told no matter what. Whether it is right or wrong is irrelevant to them.

This is why politicians and the super rich only wear them when they are on camera. They know it is nonsense. There was not a single mask at Obama's party.
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Careful Chris, or your media friends will accuse you of spreading misinformation.

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Careful Chris, or your media friends will accuse you of spreading misinformation.

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I got permanently kicked off FB for that.
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Yes that's right.  As the signs at my workplace say:  "My mask protects you, your mask protects me."  The point of cloth or disposable surgical masks has never been to protect the wearer, but to diminish the chance the wearer will spread the virus.  The same way the point of a surgeon wearing a mask is not to protect the surgeon, but to protect the patient from the surgeon.
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There are many studies prior to 2020 about the effectiveness of masks blocking respiratory viruses. Essentially all of them show no benefit beyond the margin of error in the results. The later "studies" were typically computer simulations which proved nothing in real world application. The CDC's "study" was a hair solon and one women who wore a mask and tested positive for Covid. They claimed that since her clients didn't get Covid it was the mask the prevented it. No control, no science at all. There is no actual evidence the mask made any difference or that she was shedding the virus at the time she was doing peoples hair. Just a giant crap fest to justify the narrative.

The same goes for the 6 foot rule. There's no science behind it at all. It was just an arbitrary rule.

Actual science has been out the window for quite some time now. And the majority of scientist/doctors who know better are too afraid and stand up against it. It is insane.

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Yes that's right.  As the signs at my workplace say:  "My mask protects you, your mask protects me."  The point of cloth or disposable surgical masks has never been to protect the wearer, but to diminish the chance the wearer will spread the virus.  The same way the point of a surgeon wearing a mask is not to protect the surgeon, but to protect the patient from the surgeon.

IF one takes the time necessary to read the print on a box of N95 masks you will see the following:

These masks are designed for surgical environments only

Outside of those environments they are worthless after about 15 minutes.
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Yes that's right.  As the signs at my workplace say:  "My mask protects you, your mask protects me."  The point of cloth or disposable surgical masks has never been to protect the wearer, but to diminish the chance the wearer will spread the virus.  The same way the point of a surgeon wearing a mask is not to protect the surgeon, but to protect the patient from the surgeon.

A surgeon wears a mask to keep bacteria laden spittle from entering the open wound of the patient. Bacteria is huge compared to the Corona virus.

A paper or cloth mask has zero chance of blocking a respiratory virus that is about 120 nanometers in size even if imbedded in moisture. Water also goes right through the mask along with the virus. There a many studies that prove this.

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There are many studies prior to 2020 about the effectiveness of masks blocking respiratory viruses. Essentially all of them show no benefit beyond the margin of error in the results. The later "studies" were typically computer simulations which proved nothing in real world application. The CDC's "study" was a hair solon and one women who wore a mask and tested positive for Covid. They claimed that since her clients didn't get Covid it was the mask the prevented it. No control, no science at all. There is no actual evidence the mask made any difference or that she was shedding the virus at the time she was doing peoples hair. Just a giant crap fest to justify the narrative.

The same goes for the 6 foot rule. There's no science behind it at all. It was just an arbitrary rule.

Actual science has been out the window for quite some time now. And the majority of scientist/doctors who know better are too afraid and stand up against it. It is insane.

And that's a fact Jack!
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IF one takes the time necessary to read the print on a box of N95 masks you will see the following:

These masks are designed for surgical environments only

Outside of those environments they are worthless after about 15 minutes.

And virtually no one wears an N95 mask and even those that do very few of those are properly fitted to prevent air leaks around the edges. Add exposed eyes and/or facial hair and it all out the window.

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Yes that's right.  As the signs at my workplace say:  "My mask protects you, your mask protects me."  The point of cloth or disposable surgical masks has never been to protect the wearer, but to diminish the chance the wearer will spread the virus.  The same way the point of a surgeon wearing a mask is not to protect the surgeon, but to protect the patient from the surgeon.
Surgical masks have nothing to do with preventing a virus. Surgical masks are designed to prevent spittle droplets and other gross facial ejections which happen naturally while breathing and speaking. A virus mask is a completely totally different thing than a surgical mask.

Wearing a surgical mask in a viral environment is like going deep sea diving with reading glasses for goggles.

And if you have a beard or mustache, a mask is doing absolutely nothing except gathering all the junk in the air right in front of your mouth.

Fauci said, "Wearing a mask makes others 'feel' safe." He didn't say it keeps them safe. He said it makes them 'feel safe'.
Fauci said, "Wearing a mask 'is the right thing to do'" Whatever the hell that means. But again, nothing about preventing COVID.
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And virtually no one wears an N95 mask and even those that do very few of those are properly fitted to prevent air leaks around the edges. Add exposed eyes and/or facial hair and it all out the window.

Not to mention the tendency for people to pull them down continually and adjust them. Even to the point of sticking their fingers inside the mask!  This mask hoopla has been a big joke from a medical standpoint from day one!  Their real purpose is as a physiological device that removes people's identities!
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A surgeon wears a mask to keep bacteria laden spittle from entering the open wound of the patient. Bacteria is huge compared to the Corona virus.

A paper or cloth mask has zero chance of blocking a respiratory virus that is about 120 nanometers in size even if imbedded in moisture. Water also goes right through the mask along with the virus. There a many studies that prove this.

Virus particles don't float around separately, they are carried by droplets which are large enough to be blocked by the masks commonly in use.  Once the droplet carrying the virus hits the mask, the virus particles don't float off the droplet.
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Welcome to the real world Chris.

That sumbitch has never lived in the real world.  So this is all new to him.  Faking it is making it.
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Virus particles don't float around separately, they are carried by droplets which are large enough to be blocked by the masks commonly in use.  Once the droplet carrying the virus hits the mask, not all the Viri float off the droplet.

Fixed it for you @The_Reader_David Masks are worthless when it comes to preventing viral infections and we have known this since at least the Spanish flu episode in the early part of the twentieth century!
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Virus particles don't float around separately, they are carried by droplets which are large enough to be blocked by the masks commonly in use.  Once the droplet carrying the virus hits the mask, the virus particles don't float off the droplet.

No... There has to be a distinction made between  the common thought of 'droplets' and aerosolized water which the viruse lives in fine, and the mask does nothing to prevent.

You can prove this to yourself by exhaling through a mask with your reading glasses positioned in front of it... The glasses will fog up with moisture... That is those 'droplets' you are speaking of that actually suspend and carry in the air.

Your mask is doing nothing as soon as your exhalation makes it wet. The only advantage to a surgical mask it its attractive static charge. After a few minutes, when your exhalation has moistned the mask sufficiently, the static charge disappears, and all you are doing is creating a near-body temp moist environment where the virus can propagate right in front of your face.
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No... There has to be a distinction made between  the common thought of 'droplets' and aerosolized water which the viruse lives in fine, and the mask does nothing to prevent.

You can prove this to yourself by exhaling through a mask with your reading glasses positioned in front of it... The glasses will fog up with moisture... That is those 'droplets' you are speaking of that actually suspend and carry in the air.

Your mask is doing nothing as soon as your exhalation makes it wet. The only advantage to a surgical mask it its attractive static charge. After a few minutes, when your exhalation has moistned the mask sufficiently, the static charge disappears, and all you are doing is creating a near-body temp moist environment where the virus can propagate right in front of your face.

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No... There has to be a distinction made between  the common thought of 'droplets' and aerosolized water which the viruse lives in fine, and the mask does nothing to prevent.

You can prove this to yourself by exhaling through a mask with your reading glasses positioned in front of it... The glasses will fog up with moisture... That is those 'droplets' you are speaking of that actually suspend and carry in the air.

Your mask is doing nothing as soon as your exhalation makes it wet. The only advantage to a surgical mask it its attractive static charge. After a few minutes, when your exhalation has moistned the mask sufficiently, the static charge disappears, and all you are doing is creating a near-body temp moist environment where the virus can propagate right in front of your face.

That is correct. And the moisture is constantly exchanging with the air passing through it - along with the virus.

The studies prior to 2020 have proven this over and over again.

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Yes that's right.  As the signs at my workplace say:  "My mask protects you, your mask protects me."  The point of cloth or disposable surgical masks has never been to protect the wearer, but to diminish the chance the wearer will spread the virus.  The same way the point of a surgeon wearing a mask is not to protect the surgeon, but to protect the patient from the surgeon.

Too bad that was a lie, they don't protect anybody and spread germs to the wearer.
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Re: Chris Wallace: So You're Saying This Mask I've Been Wearing For A Year Isn
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2021, 09:37:56 pm »
Virus particles don't float around separately, they are carried by droplets which are large enough to be blocked by the masks commonly in use.  Once the droplet carrying the virus hits the mask, the virus particles don't float off the droplet.
The droplets evaporate in minutes, leaving the tiny virus to go happily on its way.
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Re: Chris Wallace: So You're Saying This Mask I've Been Wearing For A Year
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2021, 09:46:46 pm »
The droplets evaporate in minutes, leaving the tiny virus to go happily on its way.

And millions of atomized droplets carrying billions of Viri pass right through unimpeded to begin with.
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Too bad that was a lie, they don't protect anybody and spread germs to the wearer.

 :yowsa: They do FAR more harm than good.
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:yowsa: They do FAR more harm than good.

Well, then there's the issue of O2 saturation.... :whistle:
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Well, then there's the issue of O2 saturation.... :whistle:

Rebreathing your own exhaust is never a good idea!
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Rebreathing your own exhaust is never a good idea!

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Yes that's right.  As the signs at my workplace say:  "My mask protects you, your mask protects me."  The point of cloth or disposable surgical masks has never been to protect the wearer, but to diminish the chance the wearer will spread the virus.  The same way the point of a surgeon wearing a mask is not to protect the surgeon, but to protect the patient from the surgeon.

Ahh.  Must be some of that magical, mystical quantum spookiness Einstein was so concerned with.

So, these masks, these quantum masks, they can stop a virus from being expelled through them, despite the fact that the cause of the expulsive force is pressed up against the mask, but once that virus gets past the first mask, every other mask in the room suddenly becomes powerless to stop that self-same virus from penetrating the mucous membranes of every other person ... in the room, in the region, in the world?

Wow.  Quantum masks.  Who knew?

On another subject, there's an interesting little device stuck on the end of all my faucets at home.  It quite resembles a woven cloth mesh.  The openings in the mesh are quite small, but still substantially larger than water molecules.  And interestingly enough, while it does create some measure of back pressure on the plumbing system, it effectively takes large globules of water and breaks them up into smaller globules.  Of course any small particulate matter contained in the water stream, like dissolved minerals that discolor the water, have no trouble passing through the diffuser.

Something else I've noticed (by accident):  I installed one of these new-fangled twisty, snaky faucets that can be pointed in many directions, and the water spray goes much, much further with the diffuser attached than it does without the diffuser.

So, it seems to me that, other than catching a few gross droplets here and there, these cloth masks - as opposed to a properly fitted, properly exchanged, N95 mask - merely act like diffusers on a water faucet, effectively aerosolizing large droplets into smaller droplets and ensuring that they get spread farther, and wider, than would otherwise be the case if the person in question was going face-free.

But, that's just my two cents' worth.

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More info here: https://rationalground.com/masks-children-and-covid-19-published-studies/

For all you folks getting worked up about government control around masks, vax, etc.....

Just wait unitl the Climate Change Nazi controllers start their business in earnest.  COVID will be childs play. 
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For all you folks getting worked up about government control around masks, vax, etc.....

Just wait unitl the Climate Change Nazi controllers start their business in earnest.  COVID will be childs play. 

COVID has been a testing ground for the social controls the fascists want to roll out.  Climate "change" will be the main event.  Already, they are trying to recraft the narrative so that it becomes a "public health emergency" a-la COVID.

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For all you folks getting worked up about government control around masks, vax, etc.....

Just wait unitl the Climate Change Nazi controllers start their business in earnest.  COVID will be childs play.
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For you @PeteS in CA

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/09/08/the-cdc-just-made-an-orwellian-change-to-the-definition-of-vaccine-and-vaccination-n1476799

Actually, I had already seen that article, being a frequenter of PJMedia from the time it was called Pajamas Media. Anyway, I saw on that first reading that the article Himalayanizes an anthill, 999yawn .

What does that article have to do with Chris Wallace and plain cloth masks? Was your post a call-out imagined-gotcha post? :silly: Bad form, :silly: ! :tongue2:
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Actually, I had already seen that article, being a frequenter of PJMedia from the time it was called Pajamas Media. Anyway, I saw on that first reading that the article Himalayanizes an anthill, 999yawn .

What does that article have to do with Chris Wallace and plain cloth masks? Was your post a call-out imagined-gotcha post? :silly: Bad form, :silly: ! :tongue2:

Well Pete, you demanded to know who changed the definition of vaccine and how it was changed awhile back because you didn't believe it. Now "vaccines" provide "protection" instead of "immunity" because their Covid treatment doesn't provide immunity. Many still get sick. So the definition had to change to "protection" meaning you can still get the virus and get sick - but less sick, at least for a little while.

That's because all previous real vaccines targeted the specific virus causing the body to create immunity to it. And then you didn't get that virus. This new experimental treatment targets a specific protein and not the virus' other components and therefore couldn't achieve actual immunity. So science was bent to include it as a "vaccine" for political reasons. And yet you continue to demand that this vaccine is like any other vaccine...
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Look up the CDC's new definition of "herd immunity."  That's been changed, too, IIRC.
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Look up the CDC's new definition of "herd immunity."  That's been changed, too, IIRC.

Gotta wonder how many times Lucy pulls the football on us huh?
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Well Pete, you demanded to know who changed the definition of vaccine and how it was changed awhile back because you didn't believe it 1. Now "vaccines" provide "protection" instead of "immunity" because their Covid treatment doesn't provide immunity 2. Many still get sick. So the definition had to change to "protection" meaning you can still get the virus and get sick - but less sick, at least for a little while.

That's because all previous real vaccines targeted the specific virus causing the body to create immunity to it 3. And then you didn't get that virus. This new experimental treatment targets a specific protein and not the virus' other components and therefore couldn't achieve actual immunity. So science was bent to include it as a "vaccine" for political reasons. And yet you continue to demand that this vaccine is like any other vaccine... 4

1 Not on this thread.

2 My responses on myst's thread about this topic, https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,447885.msg2492324.html#msg2492324

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,447885.msg2492367.html#msg2492367

3 Really? What viruses are targeted by the TDaP/DTaP vaccines? Hint: look up Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis in W'pedia or your favorite information source.

4 I "demand"?
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Now "vaccines" provide "protection" instead of "immunity" because their Covid treatment doesn't provide immunity.

In other words, they are now 'therapeutics' instead of 'vaccines'.  Other therapeutics include zinc, vitamin D, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, quercetin, etc.  In the name of liberty, I choose these over the mRNA therapeutic.
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In the entire realm of this COVID-19 largess (/s) .....  One thing is for certain, the government and all its associated agencies have massively lied to the American public about this virus.  It is no surprise that this thing has gotten so polarizing.

I think we are past the point of arguing among ourselves about the vax or treament efficacy (or lack of).  Significant measures of accoutibility need to be administered to those who have basically torn this country apart.

I am talking about tribunals and drastic penalties for those who have exploited and profitted on the backs frightened Americans
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In the entire realm of this COVID-19 largess (/s) .....  One thing is for certain, the government and all its associated agencies have massively lied to the American public about this virus.

This to me is the biggest red flag of all.  It's been almost two years now, and the government continues to lie.  So why should I listen to them?
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