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McCaskill on ‘Extreme’ Abortion Law: ‘What They Are Doing in Texas Is Going to Help Us Win Elections’

Pam Key 6 Sep 2021

Former Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), now an NBC News contributor, said Monday on MSNBC ‘s “Deadline” that the new abortion law in Texas was so “extreme,” it would help Democrats win elections.

McCaskill said, “Well, the Supreme Court has done something that is far beyond what I imagined they would do. I was very worried about Roe v. Wade standing in light of the case from Mississippi that they’re going to hear in a few weeks. But the notion that in the shadow docket, in the dark of night, they would have this kind of statutory BS is really startling. Make no mistake, they put a bow on a law that says you no longer have to have standing to bring a social grievance to court. All you have to do is think you have some kind of proof that somebody intended to help somebody get an abortion.”

She continued, “Imagine a mother who is trying to help their 13-year-old daughter when she just found out that this daughter had been repeatedly raped by her boyfriend. Imagine her being the one that is pulled into court and asked to pay money she clearly would not have and legal expenses she would not have just for trying to help her daughter under those circumstances. It’s very extreme. I think it’s politically very bad for the Republicans that they have gone this far. It appears there’s no stopping this element of the Republican Party. Now what the Democrats need to do is, yes, fight back, but also, make sure they elevate this issue, so every woman in America understands what these folks are doing.”

She added, “The vast majority of Americans would reject this law on its face. The extreme nature of this law is what would, I believe, 80% or plus would say, of course, there should be an exception for rape and incest. That was, in fact, the issue that got me re-elected.”

On Democrats in Congress, McCaskill concluded, “They need to bring up a codification of Roe for a vote to put people on the spot that are pro-choice and are Republicans in Democratic areas. We need to be aggressive, but we also need to be realistic. This is about us winning elections. What they are doing in Texas is going to help us win elections.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/06/mccaskill-on-extreme-abortion-law-what-they-are-doing-in-texas-is-going-to-help-us-win-elections/
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McCaskill on ‘Extreme’ Abortion Law: ‘What They Are Doing in Texas Is Going to Help Us Win Elections’

Pam Key 6 Sep 2021

Former Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), now an NBC News contributor, said Monday on MSNBC ‘s “Deadline” that the new abortion law in Texas was so “extreme,” it would help Democrats win elections.

McCaskill said, “Well, the Supreme Court has done something that is far beyond what I imagined they would do. I was very worried about Roe v. Wade standing in light of the case from Mississippi that they’re going to hear in a few weeks. But the notion that in the shadow docket, in the dark of night, they would have this kind of statutory BS is really startling. Make no mistake, they put a bow on a law that says you no longer have to have standing to bring a social grievance to court. All you have to do is think you have some kind of proof that somebody intended to help somebody get an abortion.”

She continued, “Imagine a mother who is trying to help their 13-year-old daughter when she just found out that this daughter had been repeatedly raped by her boyfriend. Imagine her being the one that is pulled into court and asked to pay money she clearly would not have and legal expenses she would not have just for trying to help her daughter under those circumstances. It’s very extreme. I think it’s politically very bad for the Republicans that they have gone this far. It appears there’s no stopping this element of the Republican Party. Now what the Democrats need to do is, yes, fight back, but also, make sure they elevate this issue, so every woman in America understands what these folks are doing.”

She added, “The vast majority of Americans would reject this law on its face. The extreme nature of this law is what would, I believe, 80% or plus would say, of course, there should be an exception for rape and incest. That was, in fact, the issue that got me re-elected.”

On Democrats in Congress, McCaskill concluded, “They need to bring up a codification of Roe for a vote to put people on the spot that are pro-choice and are Republicans in Democratic areas. We need to be aggressive, but we also need to be realistic. This is about us winning elections. What they are doing in Texas is going to help us win elections.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/06/mccaskill-on-extreme-abortion-law-what-they-are-doing-in-texas-is-going-to-help-us-win-elections/

Is there any doubt that what the DEMS are doing behind the scenes is going to win them elections?

Those actions need to be stopped.  Calling on Ronna McDaniel -- where are you and what are you doing??
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This post will be unpopular.

She's right.

The Texas law will lead to unintended consequences, which won't benefit either Republicans or traditional-minded Americans.

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This post will be unpopular.

She's right.

The Texas law will lead to unintended consequences, which won't benefit either Republicans or traditional-minded Americans.
 

What unintended consequences and why @Fishrrman  I think it really depends on how many other states join in.  DeSantis and Noem are considering similar bills.
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This post will be unpopular.

She's right.

The Texas law will lead to unintended consequences, which won't benefit either Republicans or traditional-minded Americans.
Care to respond to the last time you posted something similar? https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,447367.msg2489768.html#msg2489768
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Killing baby's is no way to win elections.  Only your rabid death cult members, (you know them as the Rat party, Pu$$y hat wearers, Holyrood freaks) believe it is. 
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She's right.

The Texas law will lead to unintended consequences, which won't benefit either Republicans or traditional-minded Americans.

Versus 10-20% inflation, upcoming huge upticks in unemployment, and the sour taste of humiliation in Afghanistan?.....   

You might want to hold that thought...
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I love the precendent of codifying mob rule.

If a "private citizen" without standing is filing a civil lawsuit for private damages, it can't be unconstitutional because it's not government agents nor the government's criminal justice apparatus that is potentially violating citizens' God-given rights and civil rights.

Theoretically, there are no Constitional protections for anything medical.



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bele asked:
"What unintended consequences and why"

I sailed also asked:
"Care to respond to the last time you posted something similar?"

My explanation is here, which I wrote almost 15 years ago:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1787224/posts?page=183#183

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bele asked:
"What unintended consequences and why"

I sailed also asked:
"Care to respond to the last time you posted something similar?"

My explanation is here, which I wrote almost 15 years ago:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1787224/posts?page=183#183
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I sailed wrote:
"I sailed away from FR years ago, so please copy the post here"

Nope.
Go to the source and read it.
That's where I posted it.
(...and "that is all"...)

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I sailed wrote:
"I sailed away from FR years ago, so please copy the post here"

Nope.
Go to the source and read it.
That's where I posted it.
(...and "that is all"...)s
Then you might as well be writing in Sanskrit for all the good that does to anybody on this board.

And whatever you said 15 years ago does not answer the question I had brought up to you in the first place either.

Obviously you have no answer.

Go peddle your goods elsewhere.
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I sailed wrote:
"Obviously you have no answer.
Go peddle your goods elsewhere."


Nope (again).
I wrote a lengthly piece and posted it there in 2007, as to why I believed Roe would not be repealed, even by a conservative Supreme Court. It was posted directly to Jim Robinson, and it was never deleted to this day. What I posted then is as appropriate today as it was back then.

If you don't want to read it at the direct link provided, that's YOUR problem.

I will continue to write and post what I write and post, right here.

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She's right.

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I sailed wrote:
"I sailed away from FR years ago, so please copy the post here"

Nope.
Go to the source and read it.
That's where I posted it.
(...and "that is all"...)
I 'went there' and read what you had to say then, and it is as pertinent now as it was then.
You have described why, as long as the current government exists, Roe is likely to stand.
Of course, someone immediately brings up how little Suzi  gets brutally raped at the ripe old age of 13 and can't divest herself of the bun in the oven. Thats sure to be a disruptive event for any family, and I'm not making light of Suzi's trauma, the life change carrying a baby at 13 would make for the whole household, the social repercussions, educational disruption, or any of that. The changes and effects would indeed be profound.
It would take a great leap to not blame the child, to love enough to give it life, and perhaps even choose to raise it, not just for Suzi, but for the entire family.

Much easier to just shred the little nipper and move on.

No one ever mentions why little Suzi wasn't better chaperoned, where she was or what she might have been doing at the time, either, and not blaming Suzi (nor those charged with the security and safety of a minor child) for the actions of the rapist, I must note that the only one absolutely NOT GUILTY of anything is the one who is on death row in the womb.

The machinery of keeping a case from ever being heard is complex, and there are many pitfalls along the way that will keep a case from ever showing up at SCOTUS.

As in Taxman, the gains by the individual to be had from being the one to bring that case before the court are few, especially in an era of doxxing and hounding by the MSM, special interest groups, and Social Media, whose collective pockets resources are deep enough to find virtually anyone, anywhere, not to mention the deep pocket overlords of the left, nor organizations which collect 1,600 Million of our tax dollars annually to charge "fees" for the bits they don't wreck when they shred the baby. What they can't buy, they will discredit, and failing that, well, Epstein didn't hang himself, and 'accidents' happen.

Funny how the left is so willing to let others carry, birth, and nurture (however briefly) the children they import when they could have just had their own. But that also speaks of Leftist philosophy, that others take the responsibility for what they wish to control and do all the heavy lifting while they flit about and tell the rest of us how to live.

You'd think people would see through that crap.
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Killing baby's is no way to win elections.  Only your rabid death cult members, (you know them as the Rat party, Pu$$y hat wearers, Holyrood freaks) believe it is.
Hey, if they want a baby, they'll go buy one in the third world. Imports are so chic, don'tcha know.

But what? F**k up their beach body? Morning sickness? The waddles? Junior stepping on their bladder at the worst possible time?

Uh-Uh, not for them.  All that stuff would be inconvenient.
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I sailed wrote:
"Obviously you have no answer.
Go peddle your goods elsewhere."


Nope (again).
I wrote a lengthly piece and posted it there in 2007, as to why I believed Roe would not be repealed, even by a conservative Supreme Court. It was posted directly to Jim Robinson, and it was never deleted to this day. What I posted then is as appropriate today as it was back then.

If you don't want to read it at the direct link provided, that's YOUR problem.

I will continue to write and post what I write and post, right here.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with the management of THIS board.

Have a nice day.

I read it @Fishrrman and found no mention of the central issue i.e. The Roe decision was made up out of whole cloth! Not a shred of constitutional basis in it!
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I read it @Fishrrman and found no mention of the central issue i.e. The Roe decision was made up out of whole cloth! Not a shred of constitutional basis in it!
And without reading it, likely no mention of what effect a significant increased 40% Hispanic population has on Texas attitudes on abortion, either, which is the question that was originally asked.
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Ms. McCaskill greatly underestimates her party's ability to snatch defeat from victory.
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And without reading it, likely no mention of what effect a significant increased 40% Hispanic population has on Texas attitudes on abortion, either, which is the question that was originally asked.
Most all of the Hispanic people I have met are hard-working people focused on their families. In fact, I'd have to say their families are culturally central. (That's what I have difficulty with with all the abandoned children at the border, it goes against that fundamental grain.) I'm not sure fighting for abortion is going to score many points with the (also heavily Catholic) Hispanics as a result.
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Most all of the Hispanic people I have met are hard-working people focused on their families. In fact, I'd have to say their families are culturally central. (That's what I have difficulty with with all the abandoned children at the border, it goes against that fundamental grain.) I'm not sure fighting for abortion is going to score many points with the (also heavily Catholic) Hispanics as a result.
I grew up and went to school with large numbers of kids and families of Mexican origin.  You are correct on the culturally closeness of the families in their lives.

Here's one taste of why the overwhelmingly Hispanic (>80%) South Texas area flipped from pure Democrat to now some GOP control.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/11/13/south-texas-voters-donald-trump/
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