HHS Sec. Becerra: It’s ‘Absolutely the Government’s Business’ to Know the Vaccine Status of American

[corbe]

HHS head: 'Absolutely the government's business' to know people's vaccine status

BY DOMINICK MASTRANGELO - 07/08/21 10:08 AM EDT

Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Xavier Becerra declared Thursday that "it is absolutely the government's business" to know people's vaccination status, arguing the federal government has a vested interest in keeping Americans safe.

“The federal government has spent trillions of dollars to try and keep Americans alive during this pandemic," Becerra said on CNN's "New Day." "So it is absolutely the government's business, it is taxpayers' business, if we have to continue to spend money to try and keep people from contracting COVID."

The HHS chief demurred when pressed on whether the Biden administration would push to require proof for vaccinations, as advocated by some health experts, maintaining it should be left up to states and local governments.

"We want to give people the sense that they have the freedom to choose, but we hope that they choose to live," he added when pressed.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/562026-hhs-secretary-it-is-absolutely-the-governments-business-to-know

[PeteS in CA]

I could be wrong, but I don't think the words "vaccination status" are anywhere in the US Constitution.

When it comes to matters medical, Becerra's only somewhat relevant experience was continuing CA's persecution and suppression of David Daleiden.

[libertybele]

'We try to give people as much freedom and choice as possible'  B.S!! 

First of all, if they didn't shut down businesses and throw people out of work, they wouldn't need to spend the money to reopen the economy.  DING DONG!!!   


HHS Secretary Becerra: 'Absolutely the government's business' to know which Americans haven't been vaccinated


Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra said Thursday it was "absolutely the government's business" to know which Americans haven't been vaccinated yet against the coronavirus.

Responding to GOP criticisms of the Biden administration's planned "door-to-door" campaign to encourage unvaccinated Americans to inoculate themselves, Becerra told CNN the government has had to "spend trillions of dollars to try to keep Americans alive during this pandemic."

"So it is absolutely the government's business, it is taxpayers' business, if we have to continue to spend money to try to keep people from contracting COVID and helping reopen the economy," he said.  ...............

https://www.foxnews.com/media/xavier-becerra-hhs-absolutely-government-business-americans-not-vaccinated         

[Kamaji]

"We want to give people the sense that they have the freedom to choose, but we hope that they choose to live," he added when pressed.

That's a pretty devastating comment, when taken at face value.  He doesn't want us to exercise our actual freedom - the freedom he is trying to take away from us - but rather wants to create a state of affairs where we all feel that we have our freedom, regardless of the fact that we may no longer have any freedom.

That's called brainwashing, at best, slavery at worst.  Every slave master wants his slaves to have the sense that their proper place in the universe is as a slave; otherwise, if they start getting the sense that they are more than just property, they might start getting uppity and put the slave master's hold on them at risk.

What a f--king fascist this guy is.

[skeeter]

Americans had better effin' start waking up.

[libertybele]

That's a pretty devastating comment, when taken at face value.  He doesn't want us to exercise our actual freedom - the freedom he is trying to take away from us - but rather wants to create a state of affairs where we all feel that we have our freedom, regardless of the fact that we may no longer have any freedom.

That's called brainwashing, at best, slavery at worst.  Every slave master wants his slaves to have the sense that their proper place in the universe is as a slave; otherwise, if they start getting the sense that they are more than just property, they might start getting uppity and put the slave master's hold on them at risk.

What a f--king fascist this guy is.

His definition of "freedom to choose" is much different than mine. I'd say he's a lying dog-faced pony solider.

[libertybele]

Americans had better effin' start waking up.

@skeeter they should have started waking up when "W"'s last term was a complete liberal disaster.

[rustynail]

How are they going to protect us from these new Virulent Variants if we don't give them all the information necessary?  We have to do our part for we are all in this together.

[libertybele]

How are they going to protect us from these new Virulent Variants if we don't give them all the information necessary?  We have to do our part for we are all in this together.

Ok ... are you serious here or are you being sarcastic??

[DCPatriot]

How are they going to protect us from these new Virulent Variants if we don't give them all the information necessary?  We have to do our part for we are all in this together.

How many people 'out there' refusing to get the vaccine are doing so strictly on principles?

How many because it's not even approved by the FDA and is available only under "emergency status"?

How many because an inordinate number of people are dying by the side effects of the dose...they're truly afraid of it?


then again...

How many just don't believe all the baloney on this bug that has a 99% survival rate?  94% for seniors?

How many people believe it was all pre-planned by the CCP together with the current Democrat Leadership and/or the Manchurian President from Kenya?

[andy58-in-nh]

Americans had better effin' start waking up.

I truly think that a lot of people are just beginning to rouse themselves to the danger we face from within.

The power and money that our government has comes from its citizens. The permanent bureaucratic state thinks that it is the other way around.

They need to be disabused of that notion - whatever the cost - because our liberty is at stake and they seem to think our freedom is a gift from them, too.
 

[libertybele]

How many people 'out there' refusing to get the vaccine are doing so strictly on principles?

How many because it's not even approved by the FDA and is available only under "emergency status"?

How many because an inordinate number of people are dying by the side effects of the dose...they're truly afraid of it?


then again...

How many just don't believe all the baloney on this bug that has a 99% survival rate?  94% for seniors?

How many people believe it was all pre-planned by the CCP together with the current Democrat Leadership and/or the Manchurian President from Kenya?

@DCPatriot  except not getting the vaccine out of principle; all of the above.

[corbe]

   Sounds like a Great Poll @DCPatriot except add one more thing.

   * If I die No one can SUE anyone.

[libertybele]

I truly think that a lot of people are just beginning to rouse themselves to the danger we face from within.

The power and money that our government has comes from its citizens. The permanent bureaucratic state thinks that it is the other way around.

They need to be disabused of that notion - whatever the cost - because our liberty is at stake and they seem to think our freedom is a gift from them, too.

Too many people fail to remember that our elected politicians and officials work for US! We do NOT work for them! They are on our payroll and they answer to US.

[rustynail]

Ok ... are you serious here or are you being sarcastic??

Latter.

[skeeter]

How many people 'out there' refusing to get the vaccine are doing so strictly on principles?

How many because it's not even approved by the FDA and is available only under "emergency status"?

How many because an inordinate number of people are dying by the side effects of the dose...they're truly afraid of it?


then again...

How many just don't believe all the baloney on this bug that has a 99% survival rate?  94% for seniors?

How many people believe it was all pre-planned by the CCP together with the current Democrat Leadership and/or the Manchurian President from Kenya?

How many believe this vaccination push is payback to Big Pharma for making certain credit for the vaccines fell to the current administration?

[libertybele]

Latter.

   I wanted to make sure as I don't know your posts well enough, so I thought I'd ask.

[DCPatriot]

How many believe this vaccination push is payback to Big Pharma for making certain credit for the vaccines fell to the current administration?

@skeeter
@libertybele
@corbe

My original thought while typing that it seemed the only posts on the thread were "principled" posters pointing out the fascist position.

And that there are a myriad of reasons why people out there have chosen NOT to partake.

That said,

If there indeed was a militaristic use of Covid with a more virulent strain being spread by an Enemy of the State...or the Leftist Deep State right now in Washington, DC....would like to know that they could find and/or notify a non-vaccinated carrier.

But given the corrupt Communists inside the Gate already running our Intelligence agencies, what are the chances that would be the limit of their power...just trying to find the "Infector"?

It's laughable and a tragedy at the same time.

[Bigun]

I truly think that a lot of people are just beginning to rouse themselves to the danger we face from within.

The power and money that our government has comes from its citizens. The permanent bureaucratic state thinks that it is the other way around.

They need to be disabused of that notion - whatever the cost - because our liberty is at stake and they seem to think our freedom is a gift from them, too.

  and 

I have LONG asserted that the permanent bureaucratic state is a FAR greater danger to our liberty than all elected officials put together regardless of party affiliations.

[berdie]

Any thought that I had of getting the vaccine (which hasn't happened) has died a slow, quiet death.

[skeeter]

@skeeter
@libertybele
@corbe

My original thought while typing that it seemed the only posts on the thread were "principled" posters pointing out the fascist position.

And that there are a myriad of reasons why people out there have chosen NOT to partake.

That said,

If there indeed was a militaristic use of Covid with a more virulent strain being spread by an Enemy of the State...or the Leftist Deep State right now in Washington, DC....would like to know that they could find and/or notify a non-vaccinated carrier.

But given the corrupt Communists inside the Gate already running our Intelligence agencies, what are the chances that would be the limit of their power...just trying to find the "Infector"?

It's laughable and a tragedy at the same time.

I've said it before - Covid has been a veritable Swiss army knife for government fascists - appropriate for use on every matter needing 'fixing'.

[240B]

I've said it before - Covid has been a veritable Swiss army knife for government fascists - appropriate for use on every matter needing 'fixing'.

Don't know why you would say that? Everyone knows that COVID came from Climate Change and White Supremacy.

[libertybele]

Any thought that I had of getting the vaccine (which hasn't happened) has died a slow, quiet death.

I was reluctant from the very beginning because of the rush and push of the vaccines. 

Secondly, there were several treatments that were working such as hydrochloronique, but because Trump suggested it, Fauci and others gave the treatment two thumbs down only to now find that it does work.  Ivermectin is another drug that keep popping up that is not only used as a treatment but a preventative.   I understand that both are not vaccines, but Fauci and others would have us believe that vaccines are the only way for people to survive COVID, yet masks are still required. If the vaccines are working so well, then why are masks still needed??  This is a virus. Viruses mutate. This virus will always be around even if it lies dormant for years.

From the beginning Fauci, the WHO and the CDC have lied, so why should we trust in their push to vaccinate?  Not just one dose, but two doses are needed.  Now they are going to go door to door??

There is a reason they want everyone vaccinated, and I find it very hard to believe it's to prevent the spread.  There is a far greater and IMO more devious reason.

[skeeter]

Don't know why you would say that? Everyone knows that COVID came from Climate Change and White Supremacy.

It wouldn't been a problem at all if we'd just spent enough on infrastructure.

[berdie]

I was reluctant from the very beginning because of the rush and push of the vaccines. 

Secondly, there were several treatments that were working such as hydrochloronique, but because Trump suggested it, Fauci and others gave the treatment two thumbs down only to now find that it does work.  Ivermectin is another drug that keep popping up that is not only used as a treatment but a preventative.   I understand that both are not vaccines, but Fauci and others would have us believe that vaccines are the only way for people to survive COVID, yet masks are still required. If the vaccines are working so well, then why are masks still needed??  This is a virus. Viruses mutate. This virus will always be around even if it lies dormant for years.

From the beginning Fauci, the WHO and the CDC have lied, so why should we trust in their push to vaccinate?  Not just one dose, but two doses are needed.  Now they are going to go door to door??

There is a reason they want everyone vaccinated, and I find it very hard to believe it's to prevent the spread.  There is a far greater and IMO more devious reason.

Agreed, @libertybele

[deb]

The arrogance of these people is almost unfathomable.

[PeteS in CA]

... Viruses mutate. This virus will always be around even if it lies dormant for years. 1

... Not just one dose, but two doses are needed 2.  Now they are going to go door to door??

There is a reason they want everyone vaccinated, and I find it very hard to believe it's to prevent the spread.  There is a far greater and IMO more devious reason. 3

1 Each "variant" is a mutation that has to some degree spread at least regionally. All three vaccines authorized for use in the US is known to be effective against every one of those mutations. To date it is not known how long immunity from vaccination lasts, because they have been under test since spring 2020 (Pfizer and Moderna) and "all" that is known from those tested earliest is that they still have effective levels of antibodies, and the vaccines have triggered appropriate T- and B-cell responses (the immune system's long-term memory).

2 Two-dose vaccines are not unusual. For example, the Shingrix vaccine is also a two-dose vaccine.

3 Seriously? What is that "more devious reason"?

As to whether the vaccines in use in the US "prevent the spread", this webpage has graphs of daily new cases and daily deaths, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ . US daily news cases and daily deaths have plummeted and plateaued to a low level, starting in mid January, a month after vaccination began in the US. Compare those graphs to the corresponding graphs for our neighbor Canada , https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/ , which did not start getting serious about vaccinations until late February and early March. I think the data evidences that vaccines in the US have "prevented the spread".

[Smokin Joe]

Becerra told CNN the government has had to "spend trillions of dollars to try to keep Americans alive during this pandemic."

"So it is absolutely the government's business, it is taxpayers' business, if we have to continue to spend money to try to keep people from contracting COVID and helping reopen the economy," he said.  ...............

I don't care how much money they spent, except that I'll be expected to pony up some of it.

My rights are NOT for sale.

[Smokin Joe]

and 

I have LONG asserted that the permanent bureaucratic state is a FAR greater danger to our liberty than all elected officials put together regardless of party affiliations.

That permanent bureaucratic state is the murky water that keeps the swamp going, it gives the deep state its depth. If every office had a definite term, (up or out advancement), the swamp would be dry land.
If the Constitution had been followed more rigorously in keeping with original intent, nine out of ten Federal Jobs would not exist, and possibly more.

[Smokin Joe]

Latter.

I thought so. Especially when I read the most heinous line of bullshit to come out of COVID-19, often uttered by people wearing suits that cost more than many who were put out of work were making in a month...

"We're all in this together."


Which should displace one of the three biggest and take its rightful place ahead of "This'll only hurt for a little while."
(For those who know the song). If you don't, well, NSFW, but here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnEmghSrOig

I didn't see any of those sonofabitches where I was.

[Bigun]

That permanent bureaucratic state is the murky water that keeps the swamp going, it gives the deep state its depth. If every office had a definite term, (up or out advancement), the swamp would be dry land.
If the Constitution had been followed more rigorously in keeping with original intent, nine out of ten Federal Jobs would not exist, and possibly more.

  Quite true. All of it.

[txradioguy]

So does this mean now...the next time the political winds change...HHS "volunteers" can be sent into neighborhoods and towns to inquire about the HIV/AIDS status of the residents in each house?

I mean after all..."the government has had to "spend trillions of dollars to try to keep Americans alive during this pandemic the spread of HIV/AIDS."

"So it is absolutely the government's business, it is taxpayers' business, if we have to continue to spend money to try to keep people from contracting COVID a sexually transmitted disease"

[mystery-ak]

HHS Sec. Becerra: It’s ‘Absolutely the Government’s Business’ to Know the Vaccine Status of Americans
By Debra Heine
July 8, 2021

Amid controversy over the administration’s plan to knock on doors to promote the COVID vaccines to unvaccinated Americans, the U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary has declared that it is “absolutely” the government’s business to know who is vaccinated or not vaccinated.

On Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said that the goal of the door-to-door outreach was to “get remaining Americans vaccinated by ensuring they have the information they need on how both safe and accessible the vaccine is.”

During a press conference, Joe Biden said this outreach team would “go community-by-community, neighborhood-by-neighborhood, and oft times door-to-door, literally knocking on doors” to “educate” unvaccinated Americans about the experimental vaccines.

HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra was asked to respond to criticism from some Republican lawmakers about the Biden regime’s “door-to-door outreach” program during a CNN interview Thursday morning,

more
https://amgreatness.com/2021/07/08/hhs-sec-becerra-its-absolutely-the-governments-business-to-know-the-vaccine-status-of-americans/

[mystery-ak]

Psaki Promises White House Has ‘No Intention To Maintain A Database’ After HHS Secretary’s Vaccine Comments Spark Worry
https://dailycaller.com/2021/07/09/jen-psaki-promises-white-house-no-intention-maintain-database-xavier-becerra-comments-coronavirus-vaccine/

[txradioguy]

Psaki Promises White House Has ‘No Intention To Maintain A Database’ After HHS Secretary’s Vaccine Comments Spark Worry
https://dailycaller.com/2021/07/09/jen-psaki-promises-white-house-no-intention-maintain-database-xavier-becerra-comments-coronavirus-vaccine/

If they are coming door to door…they’ve already got a database. 

[PeteS in CA]

Psaki Promises White House Has ‘No Intention To Maintain A Database’ ...

Either Psaki is lying, something she does poorly and frequently, or that's the brick wall that will block Biden's tyrannic fantasy. No database or access to states' databases, no ability to target the unvaxxed. As I pointed out several days ago, there are not enough Federal workers to wander randomly through semi-randomly picked neighborhoods.