Amid reported deaths following COVID-19 vaccinations, experts allay fears, discourage alarm

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Amid reported deaths following COVID-19 vaccinations, experts allay fears, discourage alarm

Experts caution against linking deaths with injection.


By Daniel Payne

Updated: February 2, 2021 - 8:04am



As questions have begun to swirl around numerous deaths that have been reported after individuals received a COVID-19 vaccine, experts are urging the public not to leap to the conclusion that those fatalities were caused by the vaccine itself.

The deaths that have been reported worldwide following an injection of the vaccine include: nearly three dozen elderly patients in Norway, the baseball legend Hank Aaron, a Florida physician, another Florida medical worker, an individual in Placer County, Calif., and numerous others.

Kristen Nordlund, a spokeswoman for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said that in a Wednesday meeting of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices the agency identified just under 200 deaths "following COVID-19 vaccination" in the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, a database run by the CDC. As of Monday evening, that number had risen to a little over 230.

Nordlund cautioned that the deaths in VAERS should not be assumed to have been caused by the vaccine.

"It's important to be aware that we can describe how many reports VAERS has received after a given vaccine," she told Just the News. "We cannot tell you how many are associated with the vaccine. VAERS data generally don't allow determination of causality."

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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/amid-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-fears-raised-over-deaths

[XenaLee]

It’s Gene Therapy, Not a Vaccine

https://www.westonaprice.org/podcast/its-gene-therapy-not-a-vaccine/

[PeteS in CA]

It’s Gene Therapy, Not a Vaccine

https://www.westonaprice.org/podcast/its-gene-therapy-not-a-vaccine/

@XenaLee, mRNA vaccines cannot alter DNA. At all. Cells' DNA resides in their nucleus and mitochondrion. mRNA goes to and is used by a cell's ribosome, its protein factory. mRNA is the blueprint the ribosome uses to construct proteins.

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee, mRNA vaccines cannot alter DNA. At all. Cells' DNA resides in their nucleus and mitochondrion. mRNA goes to and is used by a cell's ribosome, its protein factory. mRNA is the blueprint the ribosome uses to construct proteins.

Gee, I had no idea that you were our resident expert.

[Texas Yellow Rose]

 

[PeteS in CA]

Gee, I had no idea that you were our resident expert.

@XenaLee, what I posted is high school or undergraduate-level Biology. I don't claim to be an expert, and your sarcasm is uncalled for.

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee, what I posted is high school or undergraduate-level Biology. I don't claim to be an expert, and your sarcasm is uncalled for.

Not really.

[roamer_1]

@XenaLee, what I posted is high school or undergraduate-level Biology. I don't claim to be an expert, and your sarcasm is uncalled for.

Well, it's kinda her thing so... 




@XenaLee   

[mountaineer]

Okay, we won't assume the deaths of Hank Aaron, et al., were caused by the vaccine if departments of health won't assume the deaths of people in their 90s or those thrown from motorcycles and their skulls cracked were caused by the 'Rona. Deal?

[PeteS in CA]

Well, it's kinda her thing so... 

@XenaLee   

Grassy-Knoll type CTs are harmless if wrong. The false mRNA Vaccines Will Reprogram Your DNA CT is dangerous, putting it mildly.

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee, mRNA vaccines cannot alter DNA. At all. Cells' DNA resides in their nucleus and mitochondrion. mRNA goes to and is used by a cell's ribosome, its protein factory. mRNA is the blueprint the ribosome uses to construct proteins.

Yeah, no offense...but....I'm gonna need a link/proof on that, Pete.   You see.... I missed/skipped out on high school biology.   I was out under the bleachers toking it up with the other juvenile delinquents.  And as far as CTs go, many are claiming that daring to say that the election was stolen is a "CT".  So.....so much for your CT theory.   JS....

[XenaLee]

Grassy-Knoll type CTs are harmless if wrong. The false mRNA Vaccines Will Reprogram Your DNA CT is dangerous, putting it mildly.

So, are we supposed to just take your word for it?   Where is your link to an article disputing the claims in the article I posted?   I'll wait....

[XenaLee]

Well, it's kinda her thing so... 




@XenaLee   

And you love that about me, smart ass.       

[PeteS in CA]

Go find a Biology textbook at your local library. I'm not going to waste my time. Of course, the textbook writers are probably part of the mRNA Reprogramming conspiracy.

[XenaLee]

Go find a Biology textbook at your local library. I'm not going to waste my time. Of course, the textbook writers are probably part of the mRNA Reprogramming conspiracy.

Ahem.... from Pfizer's website....

We see gene therapy as a key pillar of our Rare Disease strategy. In addition, we are interested in the application of gene therapy to select central nervous system (CNS) and heart diseases. We are also seeking promoter technologies, as well as industry-leading vector analytics and immune surveillance approaches, and in-vivo gene editing technologies.

https://www.pfizer.com/partners/discovery/modalities-and-platforms/gene-therapy

[XenaLee]

Go find a Biology textbook at your local library. I'm not going to waste my time. Of course, the textbook writers are probably part of the mRNA Reprogramming conspiracy.

Hey Pete..... instruct me.  Isn't using genetic material in a vaccine the same as 'gene therapy'?

Moderna’s vaccine uses genetic material called messenger RNA to instruct cells to produce the spike protein, which in turn stimulates a protective immune response. That mRNA sequence, though, can be quickly changed to account for amino acid changes — the original sequence used, for example, took two days to finalize. And BioNTech executives have said they can design an updated shot in four to six weeks.

https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/coronavirus-variant-moderna-pfizer-vaccine-effectiveness-booster/594140/

[RetBobbyMI]

Hmmm...a few people die of Covid and it’s a great alarm. A few more die of the “vaccine” and it’s no alarm, a nattaburger!

[XenaLee]

Hmmm...a few people die of Covid and it’s a great alarm. A few more die of the “vaccine” and it’s no alarm, a nattaburger!

The point is... everyone needs to be aware of the risks, of the disinformation and of the false assumptions....and then make their own decision based on knowledge vs. the ignorance that the left tries to exploit and use to their own benefit.

If you think the risk is worth it, take the shot(s).   Considering that... for most folks the worst of Covid is mild flu symptoms... vs. unknown reactions to the vaccine.... many will refuse the vaccine.   

Also, since the vaccine does not prevent those vaccinated from 'passing it on' and infecting others (see below), this could end up making things worse (unintended consequences?) than better.... since vaccinated people will assume they are safe to be among others.   

Research has shown that the biotech firm’s shot is effective at preventing people from getting sick with COVID-19, but there’s no hard evidence that it stops them from carrying the virus “transiently” and potentially infecting others who haven’t been vaccinated, according to Dr. Tal Zaks, Moderna’s chief medical officer.

“I think we need to be careful, as we get vaccinated, not to over-interpret the results,” Zaks told Axios in a TV interview released Monday. “When we start the deployment of this vaccine, we will not have sufficient concrete data to prove that this vaccine reduces transmission.”

https://nypost.com/2020/11/24/moderna-boss-says-covid-shot-not-proven-to-stop-virus-spread/

[thackney]

Hmmm...a few people die of Covid and it’s a great alarm. A few more die of the “vaccine” and it’s no alarm, a nattaburger!

Man, I have never heard 2 and a quarter million called a few before.

[roamer_1]

Grassy-Knoll type CTs are harmless if wrong. The false mRNA Vaccines Will Reprogram Your DNA CT is dangerous, putting it mildly.

No... I meant the sarcasm. If she is wrong she is wrong, but do not expect @XenaLee to respond without sarcasm. It is the veritable point of her rapier wit.

And I don't think she's wrong, even if she is found to be incorrect.

[XenaLee]

No... I meant the sarcasm. If she is wrong she is wrong, but do not expect @XenaLee to respond without sarcasm. It is the veritable point of her rapier wit.

And I don't think she's wrong, even if she is found to be incorrect.

Great save!   Kudos.   

[roamer_1]

And you love that about me, smart ass.       

Yes! As a genuine matter-of-fact, I do. 

[XenaLee]

And for the record.... anyone (not naming names) that does not know that the 'Covid death numbers' have been artificially inflated (nice way of saying they lied) for political motives hasn't been paying attention.

[LegalAmerican]

It’s Gene Therapy, Not a Vaccine

https://www.westonaprice.org/podcast/its-gene-therapy-not-a-vaccine/

 

[thackney]

And for the record.... anyone (not naming names) that does not know that the 'Covid death numbers' have been artificially inflated (nice way of saying they lied) for political motives hasn't been paying attention.

If you ignore the claimed causes of death and only look at total deaths for the year, it is not a pretty picture.  That is not from a sudden rise in traffic deaths.



Excess mortality using raw death counts
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

[PeteS in CA]

And for the record.... anyone (not naming names) that does not know that the 'Covid death numbers' have been artificially inflated (nice way of saying they lied) for political motives hasn't been paying attention.

If "not naming names" alludes to me you haven't paid attention to my posts about US Covid deaths numbers.

[XenaLee]

If "not naming names" alludes to me you haven't paid attention to my posts about US Covid deaths numbers.

Oh FFS.   Not everything is about you.   Thackney 'got it'.   You, not so much.   

[XenaLee]

If you ignore the claimed causes of death and only look at total deaths for the year, it is not a pretty picture.  That is not from a sudden rise in traffic deaths.



Excess mortality using raw death counts
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

So, are you.... in fact.... denying that the Covid-19 death stats have been artificially "inflated"?  And... for purely political reasons?   I can't think of another reason, other than they get/got more $$$ if it was deemed due to Covid.   

[XenaLee]

Another question:   Does anyone here still believe the info coming from "this" government?   Seriously?

Why would you?

[PeteS in CA]

Oh FFS.   Not everything is about you.   Thackney 'got it'.   You, not so much.   

Next time just say, "No."

[XenaLee]

Next time just say, "No."

Lol!   You don't know me at all, do ya.   

[thackney]

So, are you.... in fact.... denying that the Covid-19 death stats have been artificially "inflated"?  And... for purely political reasons?   I can't think of another reason, other than they get/got more $$$ if it was deemed due to Covid.   

Just the opposite.  I am suggesting to ignore the cause of death claimed and look at this past year impact on the totals.

[XenaLee]

Just the opposite.  I am suggesting to ignore the cause of death claimed and look at this past year impact on the totals.

Ok, so what, exactly, is your conclusion..... from this past year impact on the totals....

just to be clear.   

[thackney]

Ok, so what, exactly, is your conclusion..... from this past year impact on the totals....

just to be clear.

There have been a lot more deaths from any cause in 2020 than in the previous 5 years, specific to the chart I posted.  The timing of peak deaths matches the peak Covid infection and hospitalization rates.  I see the difference primarily from Covid.

If further interested, you can go to the link and download any of the data sets.

The total number of US deaths exceeding the average of the previous 5 years is nearly half a million.

[libertybele]

Lots of statistics out there.  Also data indicating that the vaccine may NOT prevent the spread of COVID.  We're vaccinating people to prevent COVID, so if the vaccine is to prevent people from getting COVID how does that not eliminate some of the spread?  Also reports coming out that the vaccine is not effective against some of the new strains.  So much like the flu vaccine; the vaccines for COVID are only effective against certain strains.

They've never been able to stop the flu and I don't think they're ever going to be able to stop COVID.

A hearty thank-you to Biden, Fauci and the Chinese for their contributions to inflicting COVID on America!

https://www.washington.edu/news/2020/12/02/covid-19-vaccines-may-not-prevent-spread-of-virus-so-mask-wearing-other-protections-still-critical/

[catfish1957]

Not lost in all this, is the entirely different narrative from MSM daily.  Before Biden's inauguration , there was a 24/7 doom and gloom report of death, disease, and destruction as story 1 ever night.  Now all of that has miraculously changed. /s.

Again (and repeat)..We are living in the Era of Mass Hypocricy.

[XenaLee]

Not lost in all this, is the entirely different narrative from MSM daily.  Before Biden's inauguration , there was a 24/7 doom and gloom report of death, disease, and destruction as story 1 ever night.  Now all of that has miraculously changed. /s.

Again (and repeat)..We are living in the Era of Mass Hypocricy.

And again... I don't believe a damned thing coming out of the "government".   And that especially applies to those "government Covid death stats".

[XenaLee]

There have been a lot more deaths from any cause in 2020 than in the previous 5 years, specific to the chart I posted.  The timing of peak deaths matches the peak Covid infection and hospitalization rates.  I see the difference primarily from Covid.

If further interested, you can go to the link and download any of the data sets.

The total number of US deaths exceeding the average of the previous 5 years is nearly half a million.

No thanks.   I don't trust anyone that Bill Gates admires....and the founder of that site sounds like a typical "global warming" leftist kook, to me.

I'll pass.

Greenhouse gas emissions from human activities are the main driver of this warming
How much of the warming since 1850 can be attributed to human emissions? Almost all of it. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) states clearly in its most recent assessment report (AR5)4:

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions

[RetBobbyMI]

Man, I have never heard 2 and a quarter million called a few before.

“2 and a quarter million” didn’t die caused by The China Virus. Hospitals will test anyone the suspect might have Covid symptoms or past history of MRSA or SARS so they can get their 20% extra funds from Medicare, for those of that age. Doesn’t mean that is the primary care diagnosis or the cause in the event of death.