Jonathan Turley Weighs in With Perfect Analogy of Why We Haven't Seen Systemic Election Fraud; YET

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Jonathan Turley Weighs in With Perfect Analogy of Why We Haven't Seen Systemic Election Fraud; YET
By Mike Miller | Nov 12, 2020 3:30 PM ET

As the “Great Presidential Election Fiasco of 2020” remains unresolved, I thought it might be a good idea to check in with noted legal scholar, attorney, and commentator Jonathan Turley for his thoughts as to where we now stand, nine days after election day.

Turley’s post-election commentary has been calm and reasoned — his M.O. —which stands in contrast to the histrionics on display across the country over the last nine days, as nerves have remained frayed and the anxiety level high, with much at stake in what many see as the most important presidential election in at least modern history.

During an appearance on Fox News — we’ll talk more about Fox at the end of this article — Turley shared his thoughts on possible systemic election fraud with host Sean Hannity.

“We haven’t had any of the information to judge anything about voter fraud. We still don’t. We’re still in the tabulation stage. We wouldn’t have evidence of systemic problems until we’re into the canvassing stage in most elections. And that has created this frustration in court; a Trump attorney was asked by a judge ‘are you saying there was massive fraud’ and he said ‘honestly, no.’ But the reason he said that was because it’s the election officials who hold this information.”

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[bilo]

I didn't know there were any rational people left on the ther side. /s

[Cyber Liberty]

The Analogy in the title:

[Turley]  “It’s like not just being asked to guess the number of jellybeans in a jar, but you have to do it without actually seeing the jar.  So in order to find system problems, you need access to the system. Now does that mean we have seen evidence that would establish systemic violations? No.”

Well stated.

[massadvj]

It is one thiong to recount votes, it is quite another to audit the validity of votes.  The former will yield nothing for Trump, whereas the latter may reveal a treasure trove of issues.  The problem will be getting a court order to audit rather than recount.

[Bigun]

It is one thiong to recount votes, it is quite another to audit the validity of votes.  The former will yield nothing for Trump, whereas the latter may reveal a treasure trove of issues.  The problem will be getting a court order to audit rather than recount.

IIRC, and I'm sure I do, the SOS in Georgia said recount, audit, and recanvas.

[Cyber Liberty]

It is one thiong to recount votes, it is quite another to audit the validity of votes.  The former will yield nothing for Trump, whereas the latter may reveal a treasure trove of issues.  The problem will be getting a court order to audit rather than recount.

Georgia has ordered exactly that.  The want a recount, an audit, and a recanvas.  Now...if only PA can be convinced to do the same.  Once it's all uncovered in GA it will be difficult to resist in the other states.  GA is the Canary in the Coal Mine.

[Cyber Liberty]

IIRC, and I'm sure I do, the SOS in Georgia said recount, audit, and recanvas.

You remember correctly, sir!