Saudi Arabia Nearing Historic Deal With Israel — But Biden Could Derail It

[PeteS in CA]

Saudi Arabia Nearing Historic Deal With Israel — But Biden Could Derail It

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President Donald Trump has laid the groundwork for yet another historic Middle East deal with Israel, a monumental deal that would cement his reputation as the president who brought peace and realignment to the notoriously unstable region. It seems that Saudi Arabia, the largest, richest, and most symbolically important Arab country in the Middle East, is on the verge of recognizing the Jewish State of Israel.

Yet, according to the Jerusalem Post, the head of Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad has said that Saudi Arabia is waiting until the U.S. presidential election to normalize relations with Israel. Mossad Director Yossi Cohen said that if Trump wins, the Saudis will present the peace deal as a “gift.” If Democratic nominee Joe Biden wins, the Saudis will still want a deal with Israel, but the timeline would get murky.

“Cohen had emphasized that the Saudis did not want to give a gift to Trump and then get nothing for it upon a Biden administration taking over the reins,” the Post reported.

Given the degree that antisemitism and Israel-hate pervade the Dem Party, a Biden win would probably scuttle this possible deal and scupper the agreements already made. For the hate of Trump, Israel, and Jews.

[roamer_1]

Saudi Arabia Nearing Historic Deal With Israel — But Biden Could Derail It

Given the degree that antisemitism and Israel-hate pervade the Dem Party, a Biden win would probably scuttle this possible deal and scupper the agreements already made. For the hate of Trump, Israel, and Jews.

Nah. The US has little to do with it. This is Sunnis trying to get their product to market. Iran can and will close the straights and that is a choke-hold on all the Arab countries giving Shia control of all they do... Israel get their product to the Mediterranean, bypassing Iran. That is what is happening. 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Nah. The US has little to do with it. This is Sunnis trying to get their product to market. Iran can and will close the straights and that is a choke-hold on all the Arab countries giving Shia control of all they do... Israel get their product to the Mediterranean, bypassing Iran. That is what is happening.

Reads like you know of what you speak.

How so?

[roamer_1]

Reads like you know of what you speak.

How so?

It started for me with a weird city the Saudis built... Way out in the middle of nowhere toward Israel...  Very close to Jebal al Lawz, who many believe is the real Mt Sinai... Pretty cool stuff up in there if you are tuned in to Biblical stuff... So I figured that city (scratch built) was to take advantage of the tourist possibilities for that site (and the Red Sea crossing, and etc), Which I still believe is true. But it also has a whole lot of warehouse space there, and looks to me to be staging for trade to the west...

Since then I have been paying attention to back channel overtures, as the new prince in charge seems to be readying his nation for social modernization... Women getting freedoms they have never had... etc... making Saudi laws more compatible with the west.

This speaks to a sea-change with long term commitment. Still speculation on my part - Still not really in the press if you are not looking for it... But it seems to be there.

As to the oil, again, it is mostly a feeling that comes from looking at the politics of the area. Some of it comes from rumors from oil patch friends that have gone that far afield... Some of it from knowing the intractable problem - the Sword of Damocles presented by the Straight of Hormuz. It basically locks all of Sunni wealth behind a door controlled by the Shia... And as that whole mess has heated up, the solution has become apparent. Send it west.

Now, I don't know nothing - That city may be a hub for industrial strength pipelines... It could be ships, either through a revived Suez connection, or a diversion into the Dead Sea, and across Israel from there... Whispers about the Port of Haifa and environs in play... So no, no real inside information, but the solution to the Hormuz problem is self evident.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

It started for me with a weird city the Saudis built... Way out in the middle of nowhere toward Israel...  Very close to Jebal al Lawz, who many believe is the real Mt Sinai... Pretty cool stuff up in there if you are tuned in to Biblical stuff... So I figured that city (scratch built) was to take advantage of the tourist possibilities for that site (and the Red Sea crossing, and etc), Which I still believe is true. But it also has a whole lot of warehouse space there, and looks to me to be staging for trade to the west...

Since then I have been paying attention to back channel overtures, as the new prince in charge seems to be readying his nation for social modernization... Women getting freedoms they have never had... etc... making Saudi laws more compatible with the west.

This speaks to a sea-change with long term commitment. Still speculation on my part - Still not really in the press if you are not looking for it... But it seems to be there.

As to the oil, again, it is mostly a feeling that comes from looking at the politics of the area. Some of it comes from rumors from oil patch friends that have gone that far afield... Some of it from knowing the intractable problem - the Sword of Damocles presented by the Straight of Hormuz. It basically locks all of Sunni wealth behind a door controlled by the Shia... And as that whole mess has heated up, the solution has become apparent. Send it west.

Now, I don't know nothing - That city may be a hub for industrial strength pipelines... It could be ships, either through a revived Suez connection, or a diversion into the Dead Sea, and across Israel from there... Whispers about the Port of Haifa and environs in play... So no, no real inside information, but the solution to the Hormuz problem is self evident.

The straits is one reason the Saudis have been seeking alternatives for some time now.

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