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Offline corbe

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The Truth About Police Violence and Race
« on: June 02, 2020, 04:58:42 pm »
The Truth About Police Violence and Race

Debunking the lies that justify rage and riots.

Tue Jun 2, 2020 John Perazzo

America is always just one George Floyd away from erupting into chaos. That's what has been made clear by the violent riots that turned Minneapolis and a number of other cities into war zones following Floyd’s death last Monday. The video footage of white police officer Derek Chauvin pressing his knee against the neck of a prostrate, handcuffed Mr. Floyd, is disturbing in the extreme. And indeed, it has been universally condemned by people along every point of the political spectrum. Chauvin has since been arrested and charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. Meanwhile, the three fellow officers who were with him at the scene have been fired from their jobs, and Floyd's death is now being investigated by the FBI and the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. In short, the justice system is dealing with the matter in exactly the way that it should.

But the vital question we must address is this: Why is America always just one George Floyd away from anarchy? After all, outside of Paradise there will never exist a place where there won't occasionally be George Floyds – white, black, and every other color – who lose their lives needlessly and unjustifiably. It's called the human condition, and it's been around for a very long time.

Surely we can rage against that, as we may rage against any moral wrong. But what we have witnessed in the wake of Mr. Floyd's death is a rage directed not against a particular bad actor, but against what is perceived as an intransigent, generalized, all-pervasive evil. The angry mobs ravaging Minneapolis and other cities would have us believe that they are merely effecting a last-resort response to the fact that police abuse of blacks is an ongoing, all-too-common phenomenon throughout the United States. Desperate people must resort to desperate measures, they claim, when trying to shine the light of truth onto a dark reality. As one black protester told a reporter: “Nobody gives a f–k about us. OK? Unless we get violent. Y’all care about the s–t getting burned down, but what about when the KKK burning our s–t down?”

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https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/06/truth-about-police-violence-and-race-john-perazzo/
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Re: The Truth About Police Violence and Race
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2020, 05:13:04 pm »
Good post. Thank you.

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2020, 10:08:34 pm »
what an intelligent post....

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2020, 10:24:19 pm »
Great post, and a terrific article.
Thanks.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2020, 10:15:10 am »
Thank you, Corbe.  A worthy read.

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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 05:37:14 pm »
The sad thing - and I am posting from the perspective of having posted the Statista url linked in the FrontPage mag article in a "discussion" with a FB Friend - is that facts do not matter to many people who buy into the Police-Hunt-Blacks narrative. They'll ignore the facts, they'll change the subject, they'll LOL facts, and they'll go ad hominem (I've seen all of that in the past several days), but they won't subject their narrative to fact-checking.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2020, 05:42:52 pm »
Heather McDonald has a similar piece in the Journal today. Last year 9 unarmed blacks were killed by police while 19 unarmed whites were shot. Police are 8 times more likely to be killed by black suspects than the reverse.

A response might be 'yes but that is out of proportion to black percentage of the population'. True, but blacks commit 50% of murders and 60% of robberies. This being the case police violence against blacks is actually lower than should be expected.

Police brutality exists and should be dealt with but there is no evidence it is directed at blacks for the sake of their skin color.

The premise for BLM is a myth.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2020, 05:46:01 pm by skeeter »

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2020, 05:59:50 pm »
 pointing-up
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2020, 06:30:21 pm »
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The premise for BLM is a myth.

This has been known, for those willing to see whatever reality is, since at least 2015 (after Officer Wilson shot Michael Brown in self-defense).
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: The Truth About Police Violence and Race
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2020, 03:03:32 am »
The sad thing - and I am posting from the perspective of having posted the Statista url linked in the FrontPage mag article in a "discussion" with a FB Friend - is that facts do not matter to many people who buy into the Police-Hunt-Blacks narrative. They'll ignore the facts, they'll change the subject, they'll LOL facts, and they'll go ad hominem (I've seen all of that in the past several days), but they won't subject their narrative to fact-checking.
I've posted the same info on other public forums. The response has been to be called a ^&%&* racist. Because facts are racist, I guess. That's all most libs have in response to facts...ad hominem attacks.

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2020, 03:05:26 am »
Heather McDonald has a similar piece in the Journal today. Last year 9 unarmed blacks were killed by police while 19 unarmed whites were shot. Police are 8 times more likely to be killed by black suspects than the reverse.

A response might be 'yes but that is out of proportion to black percentage of the population'. True, but blacks commit 50% of murders and 60% of robberies. This being the case police violence against blacks is actually lower than should be expected.

Police brutality exists and should be dealt with but there is no evidence it is directed at blacks for the sake of their skin color.

The premise for BLM is a myth.
"Police are 8 times more likely to be killed by black suspects than the reverse"

Actually, its 18 times more likely, not 8.

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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2020, 03:43:01 pm »
"Police are 8 times more likely to be killed by black suspects than the reverse"

Actually, its 18 times more likely, not 8.

I heard the stat this AM, turns out we are both wrong - a white cop is 80 times more likely to be shot by a black man than the opposite. I probably should look for addn’l corroboration, but this is what I heard.
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2020, 06:32:14 pm »
I heard the stat this AM, turns out we are both wrong - a white cop is 80 times more likely to be shot by a black man than the opposite. I probably should look for addn’l corroboration, but this is what I heard.
I'm just going by available info. If you got good info about 80 times, I'd like to read it.
I do go to  the CBS/ABC/NBC news websites for a number of American cities virtually every day.
The amount of crime committed by black Americans is staggering. I doubt the majority of Americans really know how much.
What would most people now kneeling and admitting their "white guilt" do if they found out they've been lied to and fed false info by the media and public leaders?
That the truth is 180 degrees opposite of what they're being told?
How many black people know the truth but just can't face reality?
I don't know. I do know if this keeps up, the Big Split or a civil war is coming.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2020, 06:34:03 pm by goatprairie »