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Don’t Just Impeach Trump. Annul His Presidency
« on: August 25, 2018, 04:16:56 pm »
Don’t Just Impeach Trump. Annul His Presidency
RobertReich.org, Aug 24, 2018, Robert Reich

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Suppose, just suppose, Robert Mueller finds overwhelming and indisputable evidence that Trump conspired with Putin to rig the 2016 election, and the rigging determined the election’s outcome.

In other words, Trump’s presidency is not authorized under the United States Constitution.

Suppose these findings are so compelling that even Trump loyalists desert him, the Republican Party decides it has had enough, and Fox News calls for his impeachment.

What then? Impeachment isn’t enough.

Impeachment would remedy Trump’s “high crimes and misdemeanors.” But impeachment would not remedy Trump’s unconstitutional presidency because it would leave in place his vice president, White House staff and Cabinet, as well as all the executive orders he issued and all the legislation he signed, and the official record of his presidency.

The only response to an unconstitutional presidency is to annul it. Annulment would repeal all of an unconstitutional president’s appointments and executive actions, and would eliminate the official record of the presidency.  Annulment would recognize that all such appointments, actions, and records were made without constitutional authority.


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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2018, 04:20:15 pm »
I was wondering when the Lollipop Guild would weigh in.

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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2018, 04:27:48 pm »
I meant to add for those not inclined to visit his website:  He begins by saying we're stuck with the President until 2020 .... and then presents his "thesis" ... which I've posted. Erase all signs of President Trump AND in the process, his supporters.

The size and scope of the political earthquake we caused in 2016 continues to unfold.

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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2018, 05:25:48 pm »
    It's easy to declare that everyone stand up to somebody when you're 4'11".  /JS
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2018, 05:34:51 pm »
What Reich really wants is to imprison or kill anyone who voted for Trump.

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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2018, 05:44:15 pm »
Suppose, just suppose, Robert Mueller finds overwhelming and indisputable evidence that Trump conspired with Putin to rig the 2016 election, and the rigging determined the election’s outcome.

Suppose, just suppose, The DoJ finds overwhelming and indisputable evidence that Hillary Clinton conspired with Fusion GPS to pay for the Steele dossier, and rig the 2016 election, and the rigging determined the election’s outcome.

Either both would be guilty, or neither would be guilty, right?

If you're going to apply a standard, at least apply it across the board.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2018, 05:45:58 pm »
Suppose, just suppose, Robert Mueller finds overwhelming and indisputable evidence that Trump conspired with Putin to rig the 2016 election, and the rigging determined the election’s outcome.
 

Suppose, just suppose, that monkeys can fly out of my butt.

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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2018, 05:52:06 pm »
I was wondering when the Lollipop Guild would weigh in.

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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2018, 05:54:20 pm »




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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2018, 05:58:38 pm »
You know, the rabid Left often impels me to consider taking up for Trump...




...but then either the rabid ForeverTrumps® or Trump himself, quickly and vociferously totally erase the thought and instead galvanize me to absolute indifference or hostile antagonism.


I'm at the place where I often say to myself - 'screw it' - all of it sucks: politics and DC and both parties needs to destroy themselves and be burnt to ash.  Politics is become like smallpox in this country.  The corruption and malfeasance is a plague, contagious and deadly infecting everything it touches and it all simply needs to be set alight and burned in order to eradicate.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2018, 12:29:18 am »
You know, the rabid Left often impels me to consider taking up for Trump...




...but then either the rabid ForeverTrumps® or Trump himself, quickly and vociferously totally erase the thought and instead galvanize me to absolute indifference or hostile antagonism.


I'm at the place where I often say to myself - 'screw it' - all of it sucks: politics and DC and both parties needs to destroy themselves and be burnt to ash.  Politics is become like smallpox in this country.  The corruption and malfeasance is a plague, contagious and deadly infecting everything it touches and it all simply needs to be set alight and burned in order to eradicate.

Be true to yourself Invar.

We’ll get by without you.

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2018, 12:52:29 am »
Be true to yourself Invar.

We’ll get by without you.

Yes, you Trump fans have been saying that for the last two years.

You gots no worries from us irrelevants, but then - at the same time - somehow we are responsible for destroying Trump and his party.
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Re: Don’t Just Impeach Trump. Annul His Presidency
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2018, 06:43:57 am »
You know, the rabid Left often impels me to consider taking up for Trump...


...but then either the rabid ForeverTrumps® or Trump himself, quickly and vociferously totally erase the thought and instead galvanize me to absolute indifference or hostile antagonism.


I'm at the place where I often say to myself - 'screw it' - all of it sucks: politics and DC and both parties needs to destroy themselves and be burnt to ash.  Politics is become like smallpox in this country.  The corruption and malfeasance is a plague, contagious and deadly (, or -) infecting everything it touches (begin new sentence here) and it all simply needs to be set alight and burned in order to eradicate.


Ever heard the old saw about not drinking before you post?

Or hiring a proof reader?
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2018, 07:00:28 am »
My 'Viking Hunter' High Adventure Alternate History Series is FREE, ALL 3 volumes, at most ebook retailers including Ibooks, Barnes and Noble, Kobo, and more.

In Vol 2 the weapons come out in a winner take all war on two fronts.

Vol 3 opens with the rigged murder trial of the villain in a Viking Court under Viking law to set the stage for the hero's own murder trial.

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2018, 08:09:08 am »
Somebody needs to put that mannequin back in his box.
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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2018, 08:11:07 am »
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2018, 12:23:10 pm »
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2018, 12:26:21 pm »


Being a devote of Yacht Rock I find that meme hysterical. Top Notch.

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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2018, 12:39:03 pm »
Being a devote of Yacht Rock I find that meme hysterical. Top Notch.

Are you or did you used to be, "Hollywood Steve"? 


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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2018, 12:45:28 pm »
Yes, you Trump fans have been saying that for the last two years.

You gots no worries from us irrelevants, but then - at the same time - somehow we are responsible for destroying Trump and his party.

You give yourself too much credit, INVAR.   Just as you say, you're irrelevant - and it's by your choice.   
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2018, 12:48:30 pm »
Quote
  Annulment would repeal all of an unconstitutional president’s appointments and executive actions, and would eliminate the official record of the presidency.  Annulment would recognize that all such appointments, actions, and records were made without constitutional authority.


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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2018, 04:15:19 pm »
What this represents on a deeper level is the Democrats are finally grasping the concept that even if they impeach Trump, and even if they manage to remove him from office through some miracle, nothing will change. That is what this guy is really saying. This is what he is trying to fix.

All that Trump has done will still be there. Trump's staff will still be in place. And Pence will be the new President with his own vice-President.

Finally, after all this time, the Democrats are only now starting to realize that impeaching Trump does not somehow make Hillary the President, which has been their delusional belief for the last year.
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2018, 04:18:39 pm »
You give yourself too much credit, INVAR.   Just as you say, you're irrelevant - and it's by your choice.

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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2018, 09:26:00 pm »
Suppose, just suppose, Robert Mueller finds overwhelming and indisputable evidence that Trump conspired with Putin to rig the 2016 election, and the rigging determined the election’s outcome.


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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2018, 09:35:56 pm »
    It's easy to declare that everyone stand up to somebody when you're 4'11".  /JS

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