Cellphone surveillance detected near the White House

[Suppressed]

Cellphone surveillance detected near the White House
By David Shortell, CNN
Updated 6:22 AM ET, Sat June 2, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/01/politics/cell-phone-spying-dhs-wyden-study/index.html

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The spying technology, called International Mobile Subscriber Identity devices and known alternatively as Stingrays or IMSI catchers, was discovered as part of a review by the Department of Homeland Security conducted last year and detailed in a letter the agency sent to Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, last month.

While the presence of the cell-site simulators in the nation's capital had been previously reported, their detection near the White House first emerged in the May letter after elected officials pressed DHS for more information amid concerns about the potential national security threat posed by the devices and vulnerabilities in the nation's telecommunications network.

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[Drago]

"The Swamp" trying to keep up because President Trump is using his personal cell?  Can't spy using the "usual" methods? Who knows.

[Oceander]

"The Swamp" trying to keep up because President Trump is using his personal cell?  Can't spy using the "usual" methods? Who knows.

More like the Russians, the Chinese, or any of the allies that we routinely spy on.

[240B]

Our government is so corrupt and so porous, I have no doubt that every time Trump sits on a toilet Pelosi and Schumer get an alert. Trump taking a dump. Anything and everything Trump says and does is monitored by the resistance.

And "the resistance" is the CIA, FBI, DOJ, IRS, and even insiders in the White House. They have the ability to know every time the President burps. And apparently, they have no problem sharing this information with anyone that they think is 'on their side'.

[Drago]

More like the Russians, the Chinese, or any of the allies that we routinely spy on.

Most likely domestic..."Stingrays" have export restrictions on them and were "Initially developed for the (U.S.) military and intelligence community".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker

[Oceander]

Most likely domestic..."Stingrays" have export restrictions on them and were "Initially developed for the (U.S.) military and intelligence community".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker

So Russian or Chinese agents couldn’t buy one here for use here?  Really?

[Drago]

"Most likely".  Anything is possible in theory.

[Oceander]

"Most likely".  Anything is possible in theory.

Domestic is no more and no less likely than foreign simply because the hardware in question is subject to export restrictions, since it was being used in the US. 

[Frank Cannon]

So Russian or Chinese agents couldn’t buy one here for use here?  Really?

More likely your pal Mueller trying another work around on getting his shoddy case going.

[Oceander]

More likely your pal Mueller trying another work around on getting his shoddy case going.

Took you long enough to show up. 

[truth_seeker]

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[Drago]

Who has the most units in service? Domestic (FBI, NSA, local PD's)(by far). That to me makes domestic "most likely".

[Oceander]

Who has the most units in service? Domestic (FBI, NSA, local PD's)(by far). That to me makes domestic "most likely".

Only if one presupposes that American agencies are “most likely” to be currently involved in ongoing active espionage against the White House, which is highly dubious.  Therefore, when that is risk-weighted, it becomes no more likely than foreign espionage. 

[Drago]

That supposition is only true in "NTland".

[Oceander]

That supposition is only true in "NTland".

No, the supposition that there is an ongoing espionage against the current president by US agencies is a fever-dream of the tinfoil brigade of the Trump True Believer Religion. 

[Frank Cannon]

No, the supposition that there is an ongoing espionage against the current president by US agencies is a fever-dream of the tinfoil brigade of the Trump True Believer Religion.

Turley: Trump Was Correct When He Said Campaign Was Under Surveillance, "Legitimate Objection"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/21/turley_trump_was_correct_when_he_said_campaign_was_under_surveillance_legitimate_objection.html

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Turley: Trump Was Correct When He Said Campaign Was Under Surveillance, "Legitimate Objection"
Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date May 21, 2018

George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley said there is now confirmation that President Trump was correct when he tweeted his presidential campaign was under surveillance in the 2016 election cycle.

"I think what is being a case of willful blindness here is that we have confirmation that Trump was apparently correct when he said over a year ago that he had people in his campaign that were under surveillance and it turns out it was much broader than we thought. Even though people like [Former DNI James] Clapper and others in the Obama administration denied it, it does appear to be a surveillance program," Turley said on Monday's Tucker Carlson Tonight.

Turley also questioned the motives of those who are objecting to probing the allegations.



"For those people who are objecting, what are you objecting to?" Turley asked. "This is a serious matter. No matter who you feel about Trump, we need to find out the truth about this. If there was an investigation of an imposing political party, if there was an asset that tried to become an advisor on a campaign, those are all serious matters for all of us. And I think that Trump is right but he went about it in the wrong way. He has a legitimate objection here that we should know the truth and facts."

[Drago]

No, the supposition that..."

You yourself posted on the following thread, correct?  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,323596.0.html  And you want us to believe that domestic agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA) would have no interest in these conversations?!? This combined with the fact that domestic agencies have 98+% of the "Stingrays" in use out there makes "domestic" "top of the list".

[Oceander]

You yourself posted on the following thread, correct?  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,323596.0.html  And you want us to believe that domestic agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA) would have no interest in these conversations?!? This combined with the fact that domestic agencies have 98+% of the "Stingrays" in use out there makes "domestic" "top of the list".

What, pray tell, does my posting that Obama got into trouble for wanting to use his own cell phone back in 2009 have to do with whether this is more or less likely to be foreign or domestic espionage?

Answer: nothing. 

Maybe it was all set up by Mueller.  Better go through his expense reports with a fine-toothed comb to see if he’s listed any line items for stingrays. 

Foreign powers would be much more interested in having a direct patch into the US president’s cell phone than American agencies would. 

[Drago]

Just pointing out that you should have seen the subject of the thread (big, juicy target for domestic spying early in the Trump Admin.)...not referring to the the content of your specific post.

FBI would have no interest in knowing if Mr. Trump was talking to Putin on a personal cell phone early in his term?  Right!

[Frank Cannon]

Foreign powers would be much more interested in having a direct patch into the US president’s cell phone than American agencies would.

It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/351495-it-looks-like-obama-did-spy-on-trump-just-as-he-did-to-me

Besides Manafort, the officials include former Trump advisers Carter Page and Michael Flynn. Last week, we discovered multiple Trump “transition officials” were “incidentally” captured during government surveillance of a foreign official. We know this because former Obama adviser Susan Rice reportedly admitted “unmasking,” or asking to know the identities of, the officials. Spying on U.S. citizens is considered so sensitive, their names are supposed to be hidden or “masked,” even inside the government, to protect their privacy.

In May, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates acknowledged they, too, reviewed communications of political figures, secretly collected under President Obama.

[txradioguy]

"The Swamp" trying to keep up because President Trump is using his personal cell?  Can't spy using the "usual" methods? Who knows.

More like other countries like China or Russia...darkweb hackers...4Chan losers or even the media.

Whoever it is...Trump is making g it easy for them by talking on his personal unsecure cell phone.

[txradioguy]

Who has the most units in service? Domestic (FBI, NSA, local PD's)(by far). That to me makes domestic "most likely".

There's more spies from other countries running around DC than any domestic agency.

Take off the tinfoil.

[Frank Cannon]

There's more spies from other countries running around DC than any domestic agency.

Take off the tinfoil.

Let's see. Clapper and Yates admitted they spy on Americans and the NSA is up everyone's ass and you claim the people citing this are the tinfoil wearers? Like hell.