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During an interview with the Fox News Channel on Friday, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) argued that schools can’t be defenseless and disturbed shooters “aren’t so disturbed that they’re going to shoot up the sheriff’s office. They’re showing up where there is no self-defense.”

Rand said, “I think the first thing we should do is, there needs to be an announcement by every school district that we’re going to defend our children, and that we’re not going to have a sign outside that [says], ‘We’re defenseless.’ And I think that’s the problem, is that we do have these homicidal or crazy or mentally disturbed kids, but they still aren’t so disturbed that they’re going to shoot up the sheriff’s office. They’re showing up where there is no self-defense.”

He added, “I think we get distracted. We start talking about something that Republicans and Democrats disagree with on gun control. … Look, every Hollywood actor that hates guns has armed bodyguards defending them. So, they hate guns unless the guns are defending them. Let’s announce tomorrow and let’s encourage everybody who protects our kids, superintendents, principals, school boards, announce tomorrow we’re not going to leave our kids defenseless. We are going to defend our schools from crazy people with guns.”

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Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) argued that schools can’t be defenseless and disturbed shooters “aren’t so disturbed that they’re going to shoot up the sheriff’s office. They’re showing up where there is no self-defense.”


Mostly, but there was Micah Xavier Johnson.  Every time the news hypes an officer involved shooting of a black suspect, they stoke the flames for the possibility of another like Johnson.
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Exactly. What good are guns if they aren’t in the hands of good people ready to act as a deterrent?

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That's just crazy enough to work, Senator Paul!  :cool:

Of course, this is a no-brainer.
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Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) argued that schools can’t be defenseless and disturbed shooters “aren’t so disturbed that they’re going to shoot up the sheriff’s office. They’re showing up where there is no self-defense.”


Mostly, but there was Micah Xavier Johnson.  Every time the news hypes an officer involved shooting of a black suspect, they stoke the flames for the possibility of another like Johnson.

But, wasn't that at a BLM event? 

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But, wasn't that at a BLM event?


Yes, but the police were the targets.
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Yes, but the police were the targets.

Yes, but as a sniper.  He didn't have to worry about immediately getting cut down.

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Yes, but as a sniper.  He didn't have to worry about immediately getting cut down.


Half correct.  He ambushed them, but he was at ground level and executed one officer at close range.


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While I agree with that 'gun free zones' are asinine (they do nothing but make some people feel good), I don't believe most of these shooters really think about that in their planning. Most are extremely mentally unstable and are choosing a target that is personal to them, in this case, the school where he was bullied. Also in this case, in an interview with some other students I posted on the other thread (I think, I'll go make sure I did), they said he seemed suicidal so I don't think he was worried about his own safety.

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Half correct.  He ambushed them, but he was at ground level and executed one officer at close range.


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Yeah - it was pretty bad and the Dallas police chief took some heat in the press for using an EOD robot to kill him with a special delivery of C4.  However, the negotiations were going nowhere and Johnson wasn't severely wounded enough to just bleed out.  The hell with him.
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Yeah - it was pretty bad and the Dallas police chief took some heat in the press for using an EOD robot to kill him with a special delivery of C4.  However, the negotiations were going nowhere and Johnson wasn't severely wounded enough to just bleed out.  The hell with him.

Yes, now I remember it.  The robot did it.

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While I agree with that 'gun free zones' are asinine (they do nothing but make some people feel good), I don't believe most of these shooters really think about that in their planning. Most are extremely mentally unstable and are choosing a target that is personal to them, in this case, the school where he was bullied. Also in this case, in an interview with some other students I posted on the other thread (I think, I'll go make sure I did), they said he seemed suicidal so I don't think he was worried about his own safety.

The lunatic with the funny hair that had a killing spree in the Movie Theater in Aurora sure as heck thought about it.  He drove past several theaters in order to shoot up one he knew would be gun-free.  He might be the exception, but as schools wise up, we're seeing more cases like a few days ago where the School Resource Officer stopped him.  I think arming the teachers who are willing is the way to go.
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