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Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« on: May 15, 2018, 05:53:25 pm »
Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
Reuters, May 15, 2018, Galen Guengerich

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As the peace process has stalled, living conditions in Gaza have grown increasingly desperate: only an average of five hours of electricity per day, dwindling supplies of food and medicine, staggeringly high unemployment rates (nearly 45 percent overall, and over 60 percent among young people), rising levels of water pollution (more than 90 percent is contaminated) and disease (sewage pumps need electricity), and an economy that has virtually come to a halt.

What must be done? First, Gaza needs electricity 24/7. Electricity has been an issue in Gaza since the Israel Defense Forces destroyed Gaza City’s only power plant in 2006 in retaliation for the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier by Hamas – a savagely disproportionate response. Even so, the power can be fully restored. Egypt and Israel can supply fuel to existing power plants, and both can turn on electric lines into Gaza. They have done so in the past in limited measure, and they could readily do so now. This would bolster public and private collaborations currently underway to provide Gazans with water and sanitation.

Second, Washington needs to restore full funding to USAID and to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), which provides education, medical care, and food aid to more than half of Gaza’s 2 million people. The United States, UNRWA’s largest donor nation, gave $355 million to UNRWA in 2017 for Gaza, but the Trump administration has pledged only $125 million in 2018 — and has thus far announced it is withholding $110 million of that commitment. A senior official told me during my visit that unless full funding is restored by the end of May, UNRWA will further curtail its stretched-thin medical and food programs, and also lay off 9,000 teachers and close 275 schools, leaving 273,000 children and youth without classes to attend after summer break.

Without education, the children and youth of Gaza will increasingly have nothing left to lose – a lethal incubator of anger and violence within Gaza, and a potentially overwhelming security risk to Israel. UNRWA funding could be restored now.

Third, 12 years of restrictions on border crossings have had devastating consequences. More than 90 percent of Gazan children under the age of 12, who make up one-third of the population, have never left Gaza; the only Israelis most have ever seen are pointing tanks and guns their way. Also, workers from Gaza can no longer cross the border to work, shortchanging both Gaza and Israel. In addition, two senior hospital officials in Gaza City told me that there are no CT scanners, MRI machines, or radiation equipment (and relatively little chemotherapy medication) in Gaza.


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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 06:19:36 pm »
Where on that list is the recommendation that Gazans leave off the terrorism and focus on making their lives better?

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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2018, 07:14:17 pm »
Where on that list is the recommendation that Gazans leave off the terrorism and focus on making their lives better?

I believe the article's point is to allow the Gazans to make their lives better as the way to end the protests and violence--- allow them electricity, water, food, sanitation, reduce border restrictions to encourage an economy to develop and again allow Gazans to work in Israel to reduce the young's unemployment rate of 60%.

In other words, allow Gazans to have something to lose instead of watching them swim in a hot soup of despair and rage ---- and cursing the consequences.


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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2018, 10:11:23 pm »
I believe the article's point is to allow the Gazans to make their lives better as the way to end the protests and violence--- allow them electricity, water, food, sanitation, reduce border restrictions to encourage an economy to develop and again allow Gazans to work in Israel to reduce the young's unemployment rate of 60%.

In other words, allow Gazans to have something to lose instead of watching them swim in a hot soup of despair and rage ---- and cursing the consequences.

This is an excellent point.  There is resistance to Hamas in Gaza, but it needs some space to grow.  The destruction of the power plant was a big mistake that needs to be rectified.  The aid depots were just destroyed, partly by Hamas.  Bringing in aid "by hand" will be dangerous but also can create a human interface.
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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 12:42:32 am »
Yes, by all means let's get UNRWA Fully funded again, so Gaza have have more schools to hide their rockets in.
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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 02:08:22 am »
The best "solution" to the Israeli/Gaza situation is to build a 40-foot-high wall that completely isolates Gaza from Israel.

Nothing in, nothing out.
Let the muslim world deal with them.

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 03:18:58 am »
The best "solution" to the Israeli/Gaza situation is to build a 40-foot-high wall that completely isolates Gaza from Israel.

Nothing in, nothing out.
Let the muslim world deal with them.

I've been pondering that lately...What if Israel just lays siege to them, and starves them out?  This is war, so make them sue for peace.
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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 01:51:22 pm »
This video from 2014 will tell you how trustworthy Hamas is at counting casualties. Dead bodies? that scratch their nose.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPaq_TNEYwY
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2018, 02:27:43 pm »
I've been pondering that lately...What if Israel just lays siege to them, and starves them out?  This is war, so make them sue for peace.

@Cyber Liberty

Nah I'd just stop at starve them out.  They don't want peace.  They had their chance for that back in 1948...they turned down peace as well as their own country back in 1948 and chose war.  "Peace" for them will be when Israel is wiped off the map.

Anyone who believes there is any chance of peace with the so called Palestinians or that a "two state solution" is the answer is either really naïve or really REALLY foolish.

Israel tried back during the Clinton years to give Arafat EVERYTHING he wanted...to include a return to the 1967 borders and he walked away from the deal.
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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2018, 02:33:59 pm »
In other words, allow Gazans to have something to lose instead of watching them swim in a hot soup of despair and rage ---- and cursing the consequences.

They can have that when they stop committing terrorism and arguing that Israel must be wiped off the map.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2018, 02:35:37 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Nah I'd just stop at starve them out.  They don't want peace.  They had their chance for that back in 1948...they turned down peace as well as their own country back in 1948 and chose war.  "Peace" for them will be when Israel is wiped off the map.

Anyone who believes there is any chance of peace with the so called Palestinians or that a "two state solution" is the answer is either really naïve or really REALLY foolish.

Israel tried back during the Clinton years to give Arafat EVERYTHING he wanted...to include a return to the 1967 borders and he walked away from the deal.

I think Israel made a couple of major mistakes.  They should not have abandoned Gaza, and they stopped fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon.  They had them on the ropes and they let them go.  The Gazans did what was expected, and Hezbollah rebuilt and are stronger, better armed than ever.  If you just cut a weed down, it grows back stronger than ever if you don't pull it out by the roots.
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2018, 02:39:39 pm »
I think Israel made a couple of major mistakes.  They should not have abandoned Gaza, and they stopped fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon.  They had them on the ropes and they let them go.  The Gazans did what was expected, and Hezbollah rebuilt and are stronger, better armed than ever.  If you just cut a weed down, it grows back stronger than ever if you don't pull it out by the roots.

Agree completely.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2018, 02:44:22 pm »
For those here that think the Palestinians just "need space and something to live for"

I suggest you look up U.N. Resolution 181.

They had their chance.
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2018, 02:54:19 pm »
The Palis have proven that they will not negotiate peacefully. You can't reason with them so there is no point. If you show them any leniency, they attack you.  They are a scorpion.

There is a really good reason why no other country will host them. They are the West Virginia gypsies of the Middle East.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2018, 03:04:35 pm »
For those here that think the Palestinians just "need space and something to live for"

I suggest you look up U.N. Resolution 181.

They had their chance.

And it would have given them a lot, including cutting Israel off from Jerusalem.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations-Resolution-181

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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2018, 03:06:08 pm »
The Palis have proven that they will not negotiate peacefully. You can't reason with them so there is no point. If you show them any leniency, they attack you.  They are a scorpion.

There is a really good reason why no other country will host them. They are the West Virginia gypsies of the Middle East.

It's called, "Negotiating in bad faith."  It's the only way they know how to negotiate.  Iran is the same way.  It's in the DNA.
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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2018, 03:13:12 pm »
Fourth, since three quarters of those Gazans killed were Hamas, ask the terrorists to stop attacking Israeli soldiers.

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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2018, 06:02:23 pm »
The easy way is simply take it back.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2018, 06:05:18 pm »
The easy way is simply take it back.

I like that idea too.
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Re: Commentary: How to avert more death and despair in Gaza
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2018, 09:51:49 pm »
1947 was a long time ago, obviously.  If you look at demographics, there are a lot of young people who were born long after that.  There is growing resistance to Hamas, especially among the young who don't favor the corruption.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2018, 09:55:18 pm »
1947 was a long time ago, obviously.  If you look at demographics, there are a lot of young people who were born long after that.  There is growing resistance to Hamas, especially among the young who don't favor the corruption.

Ahh the old "that's ancient history" excuse...how quaint.

Given the video and pictures coming out of Gaza those younger generations you claim hate the corruption we're sure doing the bidding of Hamas by hurling chunks of concrete with slingshots at the Israeli soldiers and trying to break through the wall to kidnap Israeli citizens and soldiers.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2018, 09:57:34 pm »
Ahh the old "that's ancient history" excuse...how quaint.

Given the video and pictures coming out of Gaza those younger generations you claim hate the corruption we're sure doing the bidding of Hamas by hurling chunks of concrete with slingshots at the Israeli soldiers and trying to break through the wall to kidnap Israeli citizens and soldiers.

@txradioguy  You're looking at images of Hamas supporters and ignoring the people who don't support Hamas and aren't there.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2018, 10:01:42 pm »
@txradioguy  You're looking at images of Hamas supporters and ignoring the people who don't support Hamas and aren't there.

Have you been to Israel or the West Bank?

Gaza maybe?

I have. There is NO ONE in either area that does not support the leadership of the PA against Israel.
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2018, 10:29:45 pm »
Laura wrote:
"You're looking at images of Hamas supporters and ignoring the people who don't support Hamas and aren't there."

I don't believe that for a moment.
When given a chance to vote in a "free" election, who did the Palestinians vote FOR?

The young people there are taught to hate the Jews from their earliest days in school.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2018, 11:44:16 pm »
@txradioguy  You're looking at images of Hamas supporters and ignoring the people who don't support Hamas and aren't there.
You are also not paying attention to vote tallies of those voters who choose their leadership.

It is no coincidence that Arafat had his HQ in Gaza City and that Fatah and Hamas win local elections to control the area.
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