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Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« on: March 23, 2018, 06:57:10 pm »
If you wondered when gutting the 2nd Amendment would take place- it was loaded in the spending bill Trump just signed.

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It’s almost as if the “Republicans” are really just Democrats masquerading as Republicans. Today’s Omnibus crap bill includes plenty of funding for pork projects like Chuck Schumer’s New York-New Jersey tunnel project. There is even a bunch of money in the bill for new gun control measures. .....

http://www.pacificpundit.com/2018/03/22/ryan-mcconnell-omnibus-loaded-with-gun-control-measures-spending-on-schumer-tunnel/



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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2018, 07:15:32 pm »
The New Jersey- New York tunnel system is antiquated and crumbling.   Yes, it is expensive but new tunnels are necessary.   If the existing system were to break down, the economic consequences would be catastrophic.   
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2018, 07:35:11 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 07:15:32 pm
The New Jersey- New York tunnel system is antiquated and crumbling.   Yes, it is expensive but new tunnels are necessary.   If the existing system were to break down, the economic consequences would be catastrophic.

Yeah but,,, it still is pork no matter how you spell it.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2018, 08:55:03 pm »
I'll have to see what they mean by a "school safety measure."  The Fix NICS part was going to happen anyway.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2018, 09:36:36 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 23, 2018, 08:55:03 pm
I'll have to see what they mean by a "school safety measure."  The Fix NICS part was going to happen anyway.

FixNICS is a mechanism to strip your right to keep and bear arms away from you by simply finding yourself on a 'list', whereupon you have no way of knowing how o why you were put on it - and little to no recourse in getting yourself off of it.

And then we might recall Lois Lerner's amazing work in targeting groups of individuals - and that 'fix' is your "legal" quasi-abolishment of the Second Amendment.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2018, 09:39:36 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 07:15:32 pm
The New Jersey- New York tunnel system is antiquated and crumbling.   Yes, it is expensive but new tunnels are necessary.   If the existing system were to break down, the economic consequences would be catastrophic.

Not to me.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2018, 09:41:11 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on March 23, 2018, 09:36:36 pm
FixNICS is a mechanism to strip your right to keep and bear arms away from you by simply finding yourself on a 'list', whereupon you have no way of knowing how o why you were put on it - and little to no recourse in getting yourself off of it.

And then we might recall Lois Lerner's amazing work in targeting groups of individuals - and that 'fix' is your "legal" quasi-abolishment of the Second Amendment.

We already have a list you can find yourself on with no recourse.  I'm not in the mood to fight about this today, OK?
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2018, 09:45:26 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 07:15:32 pm
The New Jersey- New York tunnel system is antiquated and crumbling.   Yes, it is expensive but new tunnels are necessary.   If the existing system were to break down, the economic consequences would be catastrophic.

Then the taxpayers of both states should pay for the upgrade.  I don't live in either state and don't intend to visit either state anytime soon. Why should I pay for it? 
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2018, 09:53:11 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on March 23, 2018, 09:45:26 pm
Then the taxpayers of both states should pay for the upgrade.  I don't live in either state and don't intend to visit either state anytime soon. Why should I pay for it?

That was the original reason Trump gave for not funding it with discretionary funds.  You know, back before he caved.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2018, 10:02:33 pm »
Another ripe turd within the pages of the suckubus bill.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2018, 11:46:02 pm »
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,309205.0.html
Trump administration moves to try and effectively ban bump stocks

Trump is on a roll.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2018, 11:58:09 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on March 23, 2018, 09:45:26 pm
Then the taxpayers of both states should pay for the upgrade.  I don't live in either state and don't intend to visit either state anytime soon. Why should I pay for it?

Bacause we are one nation.  Because the prosperity of one region helps fuel the prosperity of all.   

There are a lot of boondoggle, pork barrel projects.  The replacement of century-old tunnels into Manhattan Island,  the citadel of American capitalism, is not one of them.   
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2018, 12:05:59 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 11:58:09 pm
Bacause we are one nation.  Because the prosperity of one region helps fuel the prosperity of all.   

So sayeth our resident Communist.

What's yours is his and what's his is his, because... we're one nation.  So when the Leftist scum runs their cities into the ground because of corruption, graft, mismanagement and stupidity - YOU the stupid little people in other states, must PAY for the consequences of the corruption, graft, mismanagement and stupidity.

YOUR money is Jazzhead's money - for him to spend it on what he says is noble.

But your faith and beliefs , must be punished and shaped to fit into his one-nation viewpoint.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2018, 12:09:44 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 11:58:09 pm
Bacause we are one nation.  Because the prosperity of one region helps fuel the prosperity of all.   

@Jazzhead So, how is the rehab going? Where you at as far as ROM and Are you off the Pain killers? 
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2018, 12:14:45 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 11:58:09 pm
Bacause we are one nation.  Because the prosperity of one region helps fuel the prosperity of all.   

There are a lot of boondoggle, pork barrel projects.  The replacement of century-old tunnels into Manhattan Island,  the citadel of American capitalism, is not one of them.

The region where I live used to be a steel and manufacturing center.  In recent years, it has become  a technology hub.  Google, Uber and a bunch of others have a strong presence here.   Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh is providing the brilliant minds to develop this technology.  We contribute the technology which helps make this nation prosperous.

Yet, this area's share of federal government funding for transportation declines every year.  Then region has some of the worst roads and bridges in the nation. 

I'm tired of seeing my tax dollars go to DC, New York and other major cities, while my area gets crumbs.    Seems to me if New York is so prosperous, it can pay for its own roads and bridges.  Maybe Trump, being a New Yorker, can contribute to the project out of his supposed billions.  Let the rest of the nation, which also contributes to the prosperity of this nation have its fair share.

By the way, I'll bet dollars to donuts this proposed New York/New Jersey project will be something akin to those shovel-ready jobs con games Obama and the Democrats poured untold amounts of taxpayer dollars into -- with nothing to show for it. 
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2018, 12:31:00 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on March 23, 2018, 11:46:02 pm
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,309205.0.html
Trump administration moves to try and effectively ban bump stocks

Trump is on a roll.


After Succone, he's finally gotten tired of all that winning.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2018, 12:35:28 am »
Quote from: edpc on March 24, 2018, 12:31:00 am

After Succone, he's finally gotten tired of all that winning.

HE FIGHTS!!!
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2018, 12:36:44 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 11:58:09 pm
Bacause we are one nation.  Because the prosperity of one region helps fuel the prosperity of all.   

There are a lot of boondoggle, pork barrel projects.  The replacement of century-old tunnels into Manhattan Island,  the citadel of American capitalism, is not one of them.

Bullsquat.  If the city and state governments squander taxpayer dollars on other crap instead of improving their infrastructure, why the hell is it up to taxpayers in OTHER states to take up the slack and pay for their fiscal incompetence and deliberate insolvency?

You 'it takes a village' folks give me a royal pain in the you know where.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2018, 01:27:00 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 11:58:09 pm
the citadel of American capitalism

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (gasp) WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (gasp) teeehee-hee, hah... hah... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! heeeee. (snicker... giggle... sniff)

Now that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2018, 01:36:25 am »
Not that it'll shut up the David Hoggs of the world.
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Re: Ryan-McConnell Omnibus loaded with gun control measures
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2018, 01:43:59 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2018, 11:58:09 pm
Bacause we are one nation.  Because the prosperity of one region helps fuel the prosperity of all.

@Jazzhead

While I respect your opinions, this statement is about as close to Marxism as any I've read in this forum.

Sometimes, people in a given region, need to move on to other regions and abandon old, outdated  ways.

The freedom of America allows us to move freely to do so, without rhyme or reason, at our own volition, without having to be tied to a life of drudgery.

We can move freely, without showing our papers, at the state or county lines.
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