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https://www.flgov.com/2018/02/23/gov-scott-announces-major-action-plan-to-keep-florida-students-safe-following-tragic-parkland-shooting/

Gov. Scott Announces Major Action Plan to Keep Florida Students Safe Following Tragic Parkland Shooting
$500 Million Investment in School Safety and Mental Health

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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Alyssa Alhadeff, Scott Beigel, Martin Duque Anguiano, Nicholas Dworet, Aaron Feis, Jamie Guttenberg, Chris Hixon, Luke Hoyer, Cara Loughran, Gina Montalto, Joaquin Oliver, Alaina Petty, Meadow Pollack, Helena Ramsay, Alexander Schachter, Carmen Schentrup, Peter Wang.

Unfortunately, none of the plans I’m announcing today will bring any of them back, but it’s important to remember them. The seventeen lives that were cut short and all the hopes and dreams that were ruined have changed our state forever. Florida will never be the same.

Today, I am announcing a major action plan. I will be working with the legislature aggressively over the next two weeks to get it done.

This week we asked law enforcement leaders, education leaders, and health leaders from all over the state to drop what they were doing, clear their schedules, and immediately get up to Tallahassee for urgent conversations about what we can – and must do – to make our schools and communities safer. We must take care of our kids.
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First, on guns:

I want to make it virtually impossible for anyone who has mental issues to use a gun. I want to make it virtually impossible for anyone who is a danger to themselves or others to use a gun.

I want to create a new program in Florida – I call it the Violent Threat Restraining Order. This concept is very simple, and very common sense in my view.

This will allow a court to prohibit a violent or mentally ill person from purchasing or possessing a firearm or any other weapon when either a family member, community welfare expert or law enforcement officer files a sworn request, and presents evidence to the court of a threat of violence involving firearms or other weapons. There would be speedy due process for the accused and any fraudulent or false statements would face criminal penalties.
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The reason the last attempt to bar mentally unstable people from getting a gun is the libs always overreach.  They began targeting veterans and determined that if the social security administration determined you need assistance to manage your finances then you couldn't have a gun.

They sent the cops out to pick up guns from Veterans.  (i.e. confiscation)
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Scott falls prey to "We Gotta Do Something" Syndrome.

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Scott falls prey to "We Gotta Do Something" Syndrome.

That and the "We Have to Protect our Phony Baloney Jobs"  factor is running at fever pitch in Tallahassee.
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First, on guns:

I want to make it virtually impossible for anyone who has mental issues to use a gun. I want to make it virtually impossible for anyone who is a danger to themselves or others to use a gun.

I want to create a new program in Florida – I call it the Violent Threat Restraining Order. This concept is very simple, and very common sense in my view.

This will allow a court to prohibit a violent or mentally ill person from purchasing or possessing a firearm or any other weapon when either a family member, community welfare expert or law enforcement officer files a sworn request, and presents evidence to the court of a threat of violence involving firearms or other weapons. There would be speedy due process for the accused and any fraudulent or false statements would face criminal penalties.

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BTW it is already quite possible to bar people from buying or possessing a firearm.   Of course that requires law enforcement and other govt agencies to do their job.
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That and the "We Have to Protect our Phony Baloney Jobs"  factor is running at fever pitch in Tallahassee.

Washington DC, too.

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BTW it is already quite possible to bar people from buying or possessing a firearm.   Of course that requires law enforcement and other govt agencies to do their job.

I listened to Our Sherriff discuss the Baker Act.  From what I understand....If a person is "Bakered" the Sheriffs can confiscate their guns.  However when the person is released the weapons must be returned to them.  His point was Further steps/ mental evaluations should take place after the release and before the return of said weapons.    No mention of what steps .... 
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Gov. Scott Announces Major Action Plan to Keep Florida Students Safe Following Tragic Parkland Shooting
$500 Million Investment in School Safety and Mental Health

Public hysteria breaks out, it might not with everyone but it is understandable when public officials take steps to calm the public. I'm not saying I totally buy this huge investment but sensible steps can be taken.

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This will allow a court to prohibit a violent or mentally ill person from purchasing or possessing a firearm or any other weapon when either a family member, community welfare expert or law enforcement officer files a sworn request, and presents evidence to the court of a threat of violence involving firearms or other weapons. There would be speedy due process for the accused and any fraudulent or false statements would face criminal penalties.


I'm glad they're expanding the criteria to things besides mental illness.  This kid, while obviously troubled, is not crazy.  He planned the shooting in advance.  He dropped the weapon and backpack at the scene.  He fled successfully by blending into the crowd.  To me, this shows clear, calculated thinking on his part.  There is no way, IMO, he can credibly enter an insanity plea at trial.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.