Author Topic: Schumer: GOP Has 'Forgotten the Lessons of the Founding Fathers' by Not Compromising  (Read 2087 times)

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Offline Emjay

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Incorrect: there  have been 5 previous shutdowns with one party controlling all 3 branches of the federal government: 3 in 1977, and one each in 1978 and 1979. Jimmy Carter was president for all 5.

PLus, it has been stated over and over again ... until even Chuck Schumer felt too stupid to use it, that the Republicans do not control every branch of government ... at least when it comes to a bill requiring 60 votes.
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Back to the shutdown.  I will repeat what I said:

"We need this spelled out EXACTLY WHY the two sides can't agree to an extension to reopen govn.  Is it DACA or is it the Wall - or what?  What?" 

I will write my senator, Cruz, tomorrow, and ask him what they are fighting about.  What?  I had better not get a canned phrase, such as, "Democrats won't compromise.", or some other useless words.  I want to know exactly what is the problem.

He'll probably say it more elegantly but "Democrats won't compromise" is correct.
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No, he has not.  And I'm a little sad that you fell for Schumer's line on this.

Trump has been firm on this and, because Lindsey Graham chose to scapegoat Miller does not mean that Miller was wrong.

You're right. In this case Trump has been consistent - he's open to DACA protections in exchange for other border security and immigration policy reforms.

The democrats (and the Lindsey Graham GOP wing) WILL NOT compromise on actual immigration reform, illegal and otherwise. They never have, they never will.
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Offline RetBobbyMI

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Maybe Schumer needs to read The Art of the Deal.
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid."  -- John Wayne
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