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To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« on: December 15, 2017, 06:15:57 pm »
Michael Gerson Posted at 10:30 am on December 15, 2017

To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose

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President Trump and his admirers are not just putting forth an agenda; they are littering the civic arena with deception and cruelty. They are discrediting even the good causes they claim to care about. They are condemning the country to durable social division. In Trump’s GOP, loyalty requires corruption. So loyalty itself must be reconceived.

What would weaken the grip of Trump on the GOP? Obviously not moral considerations. The president has crossed line after line of decency and ethics with only scattered Republican bleats of protest. Most of the party remains in complicit silence. The few elected officials who have broken with Trump have become targets of the conservative media complex — savaged as an example to the others.

This is the sad logic of Republican politics today: The only way that elected Republicans will abandon Trump is if they see it as in their self-interest. And the only way they will believe it is in their self-interest is to watch a considerable number of their fellow Republicans lose.

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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2017, 06:19:53 pm »
It's amazing that to me, one could substitute the word Obama for Trump in some of that excerpt.

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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 07:29:28 pm »
To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose

They are condemning the country to durable social division.

What a twisted screed of bovine excrement.

That said, I'm not interested in saving the GOP.  There is no redeeming it, and they have made it clear that they are just another party of Big Government and better-managed Statism and Socialism via corporatocracy.

It's time to start over anyway.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2017, 07:35:52 pm »
Oh No! Another corrupt piece of shit Bush administration hack is upset that Donny is exposing them all as a fraud! What will we ever do?

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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2017, 09:29:49 pm »
Isn't letting them lose how we got stuck with Obamacare?
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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2017, 10:15:31 pm »
Isn't letting them lose how we got stuck with Obamacare?

No. 

Handing the GOP the reins of power is how we got stuck with ObamaCare.

But thanks for playing.
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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2017, 11:23:40 pm »
Oh No! Another corrupt piece of shit Bush administration hack is upset that Donny is exposing them all as a fraud! What will we ever do?

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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2017, 01:08:15 am »
No. 

Handing the GOP the reins of power is how we got stuck with ObamaCare.

But thanks for playing.
I'm not done yet.

What party provided every single vote that allowed Obamacare to be passed? It wasn't the GOP.

What, then, do you think will happen if those same people are put back into power? Hint: single payer.

Oh, by the way... remember, you also opposed every single attempt to reduce Obamacare.

Behind your veneer of a Pharisee, you are in fact the same progressive liberal you claim to despise. I see through your parody act. To borrow from the late Bob Grant, you're a fake, a phony and a fraud.
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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2017, 01:37:24 am »
Consider the source of this "article".

Nonsense!

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Re: To save the GOP, Republicans have to lose..Michael Gerson
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2017, 09:18:50 am »
I'm not done yet.

What party provided every single vote that allowed Obamacare to be passed? It wasn't the GOP.

Okay I'll play.

What party promised to repeal that same monstrosity 'root and branch' for 7 years? And what party reneged on that promise when the opportunities came to defund it or repeal it once they were handed the majority?


What, then, do you think will happen if those same people are put back into power? Hint: single payer.

Hey Clueless, your own party leadership said that ObamaCare was here to stay and said Single Payer is where we need to go if their bogus 'replacement' rubber stamp monstrosity they insisted was a "replacement'  failed.

Oh, by the way... remember, you also opposed every single attempt to reduce Obamacare.

Look dufus - your party promised to REPEAL that tyranny 'root and branch' for 7 years while playing kabuki theater with facade efforts to do so.  They did not campaign on "reducing" it.

We wanted it GONE, not REDUCED, not REBRANDED.  Somehow you think we were supposed to swallow the bogus and pretend efforts at 'reducing' O'care????

Behind your veneer of a Pharisee, you are in fact the same progressive liberal you claim to despise. I see through your parody act. To borrow from the late Bob Grant, you're a fake, a phony and a fraud.

So sayeth the advocate for Obama's FCC mandated 'net neutrality' while spouting Democrat talking points bashing corporations and the free market.  You projecteth too much methinks.

Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775