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Women Should Stop Insisting Men Are Bad Just Because They Feel Sexual Tension
 
Instead of focusing on criminal behavior which has nothing to do with a man’s masculine identity but a person’s evil choices, some target men for simply being men.
 
By D.C. McAllister   
October 31, 2017

 
Are men unsafe? Are all men guilty of predatory behavior? Do locker-room talk, sex jokes, and lusting after a woman necessarily lead to sexual harassment and assault? Are all men sexists?

A lot of people would say “yes” to these questions, if a popular article at the Huffington Post about the #MeToo campaign is any indication. The author says she has little hope that women sharing their stories about sexual harassment and assault will have any effect because the real problem isn’t awareness of victims, but the dangerous effects of “traditional masculinity.”
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The social media campaign is, of course, intended as a wake-up call for men. If every woman you know has been harassed or assaulted, then every man you know has likely made a woman feel unsafe.

Women can turn the whole internet into a list of ‘Me toos,’ but it won’t make a difference until men ― all men ― acknowledge how they perpetuate misogyny and commit to making a change. . . . . We need more organizations and publications that focus on progressive masculinity rather than outdated and dangerous stereotypes about what constitutes ‘manliness.’ We need men to start a ‘Me too’ Facebook campaign that lists a time they caught themselves being sexist, and states how they are committed to changing that attitude going forward.
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http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/31/women-stop-insisting-men-bad-just-feel-sexual-tension/
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   Interesting perspective from such a lovely woman.

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   Interesting perspective from such a lovely woman.



Sure that's not a dude?

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   No, Frank since I've had the luxury of your acquaintance, I can't be sure of anything anymore.
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Are men unsafe? Are all men guilty of predatory behavior? Do locker-room talk, sex jokes, and lusting after a woman necessarily lead to sexual harassment and assault? Are all men sexists?

A lot of people would say “yes” to these questions, if a popular article at the Huffington Post about the #MeToo campaign is any indication.

Ridiculous.  If women are answering "yes" to these questions they're idiots who have surrounded themselves with low class, uncivilized jerks.  I would not be afraid to be alone with any of the men of my normal, day to day acquaintance.  There are men, and I believe they are rare, that need an attitude adjustment of sorts, but that is why every woman should concealed carry.

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The problem that these women are all upset about guys after them, until they find a guy that they're interested in. Then all the usual hijinks are fair game.

Some of these women are legit, but there are many that simply want to dominate and be in total control over any and all men. Only the queen will decide who may be attracted to them and who may not, even if they constantly do every little thing to communicate attractiveness and draw attention.
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Ridiculous.  If women are answering "yes" to these questions they're idiots who have surrounded themselves with low class, uncivilized jerks.  I would not be afraid to be alone with any of the men of my normal, day to day acquaintance.
The ironic thing is how many of these people bashing men for being misogynists mock Mike Pence for not putting himself into a position where he can ever be accused of such misogyny.

There are sleazeballs out there. Sleazy behavior is reprehensible, and yes, it's common. Yet there are plenty of people out there who will treat any sort of sexual or even romantic interest as being harassing.

Without naming names or getting myself into too much detail (and thus trouble), there was a young woman some years ago whom I had some romantic interest in—and she freaked out over it. It was an incredibly demeaning experience, and I'm not sure I'll ever be able to forgive her for that.
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The ironic thing is how many of these people bashing men for being misogynists mock Mike Pence for not putting himself into a position where he can ever be accused of such misogyny.

There are sleazeballs out there. Sleazy behavior is reprehensible, and yes, it's common. Yet there are plenty of people out there who will treat any sort of sexual or even romantic interest as being harassing.

Without naming names or getting myself into too much detail (and thus trouble), there was a young woman some years ago whom I had some romantic interest in—and she freaked out over it. It was an incredibly demeaning experience, and I'm not sure I'll ever be able to forgive her for that.

There are sooooooo many women out there like that today too. Now if it were reversed, you'd be the jerk overreacting and 'shaming' her.

Worse, there are a good number out there just baiting to get guys to fall for them so they can reject them, for ego and control reasons.

It's the nasty fruit of unhinged feminism unfortunately.
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The problem that these women are all upset about guys after them, until they find a guy that they're interested in. Then all the usual hijinks are fair game.
More often than not, they're not even interested in the guy as they are in his money, social status, and material things. They'll only marry if they can marry up.
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Of course, none of the women here are even remotely like y'all describe.

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Of course, none of the women here are even remotely like y'all describe.

True, but you all here are like .001% of the population. Solid conservative women below the age of 50 are such an extreme minority anymore that it barely pays to keep your eyes open.
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Of course, none of the women here are even remotely like y'all describe.
That's right, and in fact, I'd say most aren't. It's just a select few who seem to be too good to be true until you realize how someone that age is still single.
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True, but you all here are like .001% of the population. Solid conservative women below the age of 50 are such an extreme minority anymore that it barely pays to keep your eyes open.

    WE Briefers are truly blessed with such a diverse, opinionated, intelligent group of Conservative Women here, it's what makes this place so dynamic.
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True, but you all here are like .001% of the population. Solid conservative women below the age of 50 are such an extreme minority anymore that it barely pays to keep your eyes open.

You're a wise, wise man, @Free Vulcan.   :beer:

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And in the other corner, we have the gals with bruises, large, dark sunglasses, who say "but I looooove him" and go back for another round.  :shrug:

I'm just glad I'm not 18 today. I have a grandson who is in his mid teens and has already met girls who are toxic with man-hate, for things he never did. The result of that? He has trouble respecting the female of the species as he once did, and only really trusts his surviving Grandmother of the women he knows.
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In the workplace it would be helpful to have an accepted definition of sexual harassment and sexual assault, it really needs to more than "in the eye of the beholder".  If a woman feels "uncomfortable" by action, word or innuendo, what actions should she be required to take before filing a complaint?

Too many careers and too much money are on the line.

A statue of limitations would also be helpful.  Charges should not be held pending an opportune moment.

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I would not be afraid to be alone with any of the men of my normal, day to day acquaintance.

I stick with the old school way - I am never alone - *NEVER* - with women that ain't mine (courting excepted). It isn't proper, and it saves all kinds of headaches. And I don't enter another man's house unless he's there (except if his sons are big enough to matter and they invite me in). I'll sit in the truck, or maybe on the porch, but I won't go inside.

Keeps it simple, and it is appreciated, even if it isn't considered necessary.

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I stick with the old school way - I am never alone - *NEVER* - with women that ain't mine (courting excepted). It isn't proper, and it saves all kinds of headaches. And I don't enter another man's house unless he's there (except if his sons are big enough to matter and they invite me in). I'll sit in the truck, or maybe on the porch, but I won't go inside.

Keeps it simple, and it is appreciated, even if it isn't considered necessary.

Yes, I suppose I meant in a more business type setting.  For example, the engineering firm I used to work at had hardly any public traffic and every once in a while it was just my boss and myself in the office.  Or, when I take the kiddo to karate every so often we'll get there before anyone else and it's just the Master, me and the kiddo.

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True, but you all here are like .001% of the population. Solid conservative women below the age of 50 are such an extreme minority anymore that it barely pays to keep your eyes open.

Well, above 30, yeah... They tend to get married and stay that way.
I have a similar problem finding a gal late 40's-50's... other than the odd unfortunate widow, the lion's share are liberal and shrieking feminists... Because it is more the feminist liberals that are getting divorced.

So literally, maybe 1 in 10 aligns with my sensibilities, and 1 in 10 of those might be a match.

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I stick with the old school way - I am never alone - *NEVER* - with women that ain't mine (courting excepted). It isn't proper, and it saves all kinds of headaches. And I don't enter another man's house unless he's there (except if his sons are big enough to matter and they invite me in). I'll sit in the truck, or maybe on the porch, but I won't go inside.

Keeps it simple, and it is appreciated, even if it isn't considered necessary.
I operate the same way. If nothing else, it keeps tongues from wagging.

My mother put it like this: "Be like Caesar's wife, beyond even suspicion.
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More often than not, they're not even interested in the guy as they are in his money, social status, and material things. They'll only marry if they can marry up.
There are crude, boorish men who believe they're God's gift to women and  who need to be stepped on.  But there are also more than a few manipulating females who don't mind using their wiles and charms to get what they want out of men.
What many feminists can't stand is the fact that men are men.  They think they can by some magic incantation they can change what is hard-wired in males.  They can't.
I've always been amused by the radical feminists who from their start in the sixties where shocked, shocked to find out that many men  regarded females as sexual objects. Being leftists, they thought they could change human nature. Actually, they didn't believe in human nature.
That idiot Gloria Steinem was on record as stating there was no real difference  mentally between men and women. Everything was put into their brains by society.
That cockamamie "blank slate" theory has been thoroughly debunked numerous times.
But leftist females desperately want to believe they can change men.  Certainly, there are a lot of Pajama Boy type of beta males who will acquiesce to feminist demands on their manhood. But that does not mean that even the beta males don't look at females in a sexual manner. They do.  They just think they'll get more by being doormats.
They won't. 

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   I actually thought this was a Robert A. Heinlein Quote



   I have loved a woman that defied this brilliant Man's logic, unfortunately her propensity for violence kinda screwed things up.
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