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American Thinker
Jon N. Hall
June 1, 2017

On multiple occasions recently, Charles Krauthammer has observed that since the passing of Obamacare, a consensus has emerged in America that government should guarantee that all Americans be covered by health insurance. Obamacare, however, doesn't cover all Americans; the ACA itself even grants exemptions to its mandates. And then there are those who would rather pay the tax/penalty than pay insurance premiums. Also, many Americans are too just busy ruining their health to be bothered with procuring health insurance. In all, Americans who have neither public nor private health insurance number more than 28 million.

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Re: Universal Health Care with a Conservative Twist (Capitulation)
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2017, 02:22:39 pm »
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If Dr. Krauthammer is correct, and we are indeed headed toward a universal health care system, then Republicans need to beat the Dems to the finish line so they can put their own imprint on that new system, and maybe even beat the Democrats in the "compassion sweepstakes" of the 2018 elections. It's not health insurance that people need; it's health care. By guaranteeing that the medical bills of the uninsured will be paid, Republicans would be instituting a de facto universal system. And unlike Obamacare it would not omit 28 million Americans.


There is nothing 'conservative' whatsoever about universal federal healthcare.
IDIOCY.

And, Oh yeah,  I tolja so.

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Re: Universal Health Care with a Conservative Twist (Capitulation)
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2017, 02:32:39 pm »
There is nothing 'conservative' whatsoever about universal federal healthcare.
IDIOCY.

And, Oh yeah,  I tolja so.


Too many reptilian Republicans. And that's been true for far longer than many people realize. Few, if any, of those conservative Republicans of fifty years ago would pass the litmus tests of TBRers.

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Re: Universal Health Care with a Conservative Twist (Capitulation)
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2017, 02:35:54 pm »

Too many reptilian Republicans. And that's been true for far longer than many people realize. Few, if any, of those conservative Republicans of fifty years ago would pass the litmus tests of TBRers.

And the king reptile in the white house will sign it with glee.
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Re: Universal Health Care with a Conservative Twist (Capitulation)
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2017, 03:46:20 pm »
There is nothing 'conservative' whatsoever about universal federal healthcare.
And yet the rest of the world now offers it in some form. The only question at this point is how much longer we'll be able to hold off.
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2017, 03:51:56 pm »
And yet the rest of the world now offers it in some form. The only question at this point is how much longer we'll be able to hold off.

So much for !!! REPEAL !!!

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Re: Universal Health Care with a Conservative Twist (Capitulation)
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2017, 03:53:35 pm »
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Of course, those Americans who can't pay, won't pay. But those who do work, who strive for the American Dream, who save and intend on sending their kids to college, will be struck by one sobering feature of the reform: without insurance they'll be stuck with paying for the entirety of their medical bills, and that debt will stay with them until they pay it off. So the reform would be a huge incentive to buy private health insurance.
Or it will also be an incentive to not seek medical care.

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The whole idea behind real insurance is so that one doesn't have to pay the full price for expensive and unexpected calamities; one pays a little so that one doesn't have to pay a lot. Indeed, for healthy Americans, insurance premiums are a loss. But one accepts a small loss so that one won't be stuck with a huge loss.
And yet, if you live in an area where there is a shortage of health care services in the first place, you'll never incur that loss. There are certain people in certain situations where insurance will never help them. The whole point of universal health care, just like our corrupt public education system, is to fleece those who don't use it to subsidize those who do. Medical schools are getting rich on the concept.
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