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By Todd Beamon   |   Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:44 PM

Disclosures on Tuesday that FBI Director James Comey wrote a memo in February saying President Donald Trump asked him to end the probe of Michael Flynn raised questions about why Comey did not come forward sooner.

"If James Comey was so fastidious about updating the Congress every time there was a major break in the investigations that he had confirmed the FBI was involved with, it seems curious why this memo would only be surfacing now after he's been fired," Fox News correspondent James Rosen told Bret Baier.

"Why wasn't he apprising anyone of this, what he had his supporters obviously see as an apparent obstruction of justice by the president.

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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2017, 01:24:01 pm »
I guess waiting 4 months was sufficient.

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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2017, 01:26:04 pm »
Or, it wasn't as useful until now.

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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2017, 02:24:01 pm »
Here are a few questions that come to mind as I read these events

In his testimony to congress, deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe was asked if President Trump has interfered in the Russia investigation. McCabe said that if he did, he (McCabe) would be obligated to notify Congress because they have oversight. McCabe also said that there has been no effort to impede the investigation by the President to date.

Now, if Trump did actively try to impede Comey's investigation (e.g. Flynn ), Comey is obligated to notify Congress if such an attempt was made to stop the Flynn investigation according to what McCabe said.

If Comey did not report such conduct by the President to Congress, doesn't it show that the President did no such thing? Comey has a lot to answer for as to why he did not report the interference in a timely manner. So, the question is WHY DIDN'T HE?

Also regarding this memo:  "Trump Asked Comey to End Flynn Investigation",

The "asking" could be in the following possible forms

1)  "I hope you can set aside the Flynn investigation"

This is different from telling him:

2)  "You better set aside the Flynn investigation OR ELSE...."

or

3) "I am commanding you as your boss to lay off Flynn".
 
Which one was it?

Is the first one considered obstructing an investigation?
« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 02:34:36 pm by SirLinksALot »

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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2017, 02:56:10 pm »
Some more thoughts ....

Apparently The conversation documented by the memo took place in February this year, and we are only now learning about the memo and Comey’s purported belief that Trump was improperly trying to influence the investigation–a claim that Comey apparently was willing to keep to himself as long as he was retained as FBI Director.

If that was the case, and it looks like it ( otherwise, why wait till now to reveal the memo ?), I see only these possibilities:

1) Comey did not believe Trump was trying to influence the Flynn investigation

or

2)  Comey acted improperly by not doing or saying anything about the alleged attempt  after it happened. If Trump asked him to do something inappropriate, he should have reported it by informing the Senate Intelligence Committee of Trump’s alleged statement.

The Libs could of course argue that Comey was afraid the details of his conversation with Trump might influence the investigation. If so, Comey should have resigned in protest.

Regardless of what Comey did or did not do, we would end up in the same place that we are at right now. However, Comey would have had the moral high ground and credibility. Yet, he did nothing then.








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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2017, 03:17:14 pm »
Because he just wrote it.

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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2017, 04:34:19 pm »
Firstly, I want to know exactly what crime Flynn possibly committed other than not being upfront about his conversations with the Russians. Exactly what illegal thing did Flynn do ? Did he promise anything to the Russians in exchange for something else? A quid pro quo?

Secondly, Would it have been improper for Trump to ask if Comey could see his way clear to handle it a certain way and to express the hope that Comey would act accordingly? If improper,  does this behavior rise to the level of an impeachable offense?

Congress needs to subpoena the Comey memo, if necessary to obtain it in order to find out exactly what went on in the conversation. And even if they obtained the memo, that was Comey's version of the story. How are we to know that it is accurate?

A tape (if it exists ) would give us a better clue as to what went on.

Now, if Comey believed the president’s statements to him amounted to obstruction of justice, then Comey himself committed a crime unless he promptly reported those statements to the Department of Justice.

It could be that Trump’s language was vague, ambiguous or elliptical.

If so, then he (Comey) had no duty under the law to report it because the statements weren’t criminal.

From all that appears, Comey did not report Trump’s statements to the DOJ. A memo to the file, even if shared with a few confidantes, wouldn’t constitute the reporting required in the event Comey believed Trump committed a crime.

In this case, what is the brouhaha all about?
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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2017, 04:36:23 pm »

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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2017, 04:49:37 pm »
Because he just wrote it.

Yep. Not to mention it was admitted to be written after the fact, and no matter when it was it makes it near worthless.

And if he did write it back then, he was keeping it back for revenge if fired. Not as evidence of a crime, which should have been immediately reported.
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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2017, 05:07:20 pm »
Because he just wrote it.

He did just write it, after getting a call from valjar telling him what to write.


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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2017, 05:08:59 pm »
He did just write it, after getting a call from valjar telling him what to write.

Who on earth is valjar?

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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2017, 05:13:53 pm »
Who on earth is valjar?



I am Valjar! You are not worthy to speak my name peasant!
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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2017, 05:18:08 pm »
Firstly, I want to know exactly what crime Flynn possibly committed other than not being upfront about his conversations with the Russians. Exactly what illegal thing did Flynn do ? Did he promise anything to the Russians in exchange for something else? A quid pro quo?


Flynn originally omitted info re: contacts he had with Russia when questioned by Pence. At the time it seemed his explanation for doing so seemed reasonable - he didn't believe the info was relevant to the line of questioning. Theres no way to determine whether his intention was to deceive the VP or were an innocent lapse of judgement.

Anyway, at the very most he's guilty of minor disclosure infractions that to my understanding are very rarely prosecuted.

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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2017, 05:27:19 pm »
Who on earth is valjar?
Valerie Jarret...obamas chief of staff and groomer. She and soros picked obama way back when.


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Re: Pundits Ask: Why Didn't Comey Come Forward Sooner on Trump Memo?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2017, 05:28:53 pm »
Or, it wasn't as useful until now.

There is also the simple explanation that he couldn't while he was employed at the FBI. There may be a level of discosure restrictions to employees that can't be held to private citizens.