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Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« on: April 11, 2017, 07:02:14 pm »

Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections

House races in Kansas and Georgia will test whether anger at Trump will translate into votes.

By Steven Shepard

04/11/17 11:49 AM EDT


Democrats are about to find out how far anger can take them.

Since President Donald Trump’s inauguration, Democratic voters’ hostility toward the new administration has been evident in national polling, in rallies and protests in cities and airports, and on social media.

But outside a handful of small legislative races over the past four months, there hasn’t been a true test of the new, Trump-driven political dynamic at the ballot box. Tuesday, however, begins a series of special elections that will examine whether increased Democratic enthusiasm can deal Trump stinging defeats and reshape the narrative a year-and-a-half before the midterms.

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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2017, 07:06:30 pm »
You know you are an out of power loser party if you have made some special election into a nation wide referendum. No matter what happens in this election the results are meaningless.
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2017, 09:34:35 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on April 11, 2017, 07:06:30 pm
You know you are an out of power loser party if you have made some special election into a nation wide referendum. No matter what happens in this election the results are meaningless.

They are in pathetic disarray right now ... their only amusement is something like SNL.
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2017, 09:57:26 pm »
I live in GA-6.  There is one Dem in the race who is very well funded and doing his best to impersonate a Conservative.  I voted early for a candidate who will not win, but who is a hell of a lot more Conservative than the guy we are replacing - Tom Price.

The district is becoming more liberal, primarily because of liberals moving here to escape the hell holes they created.  Roswell is now turning into Buckhead.

I don't believe the Dem will win . . .  this time.  But having a Dem will be no different than the John Boehner proxy we had during the Obama years.
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2017, 12:19:39 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on April 12, 2017, 12:17:30 pm
Republicans win KS-4.  One down, three to go.


http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article144061274.html

Yup.

As much as I don't care for Trump, the liberal left agenda is still wholeheartedly rejected by most Americans.

The Democrat lost by 8 points, it wasn't close at all. 8 points is a blowout.
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2017, 12:24:00 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 12, 2017, 12:19:39 pm
Yup.

As much as I don't care for Trump, the liberal left agenda is still wholeheartedly rejected by most Americans.

The Democrat lost by 8 points, it wasn't close at all. 8 points is a blowout.

Sarcasm noted however a loss is a loss.  You still stung by Hillary losing the EC as well? 
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2017, 12:28:14 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 12, 2017, 12:19:39 pm
Yup.

As much as I don't care for Trump, the liberal left agenda is still wholeheartedly rejected by most Americans.

The Democrat lost by 8 points, it wasn't close at all. 8 points is a blowout.

If you're nervous about Trump, the smart move is still to vote GOP.   The Congressional GOP will work with him, but won't rubber-stamp him.   The Dems' strategy of 24/7 resistance renders them irrelevant.   
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2017, 12:54:07 pm »
Republican holds on in closely-watched Kansas special House election

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/12/republican-holds-on-in-closely-watched-kansas-special-house-election.html

Estes won 53 percent of the vote to 46 percent for Thompson. The Republican's margin of victory was just over 8,000 votes. By contrast, Pompeo won re-election in November by 31 percentage points and 85,000 votes.
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2017, 01:03:19 pm »
Quote from: Frandia on April 12, 2017, 12:24:00 pm
Sarcasm noted however a loss is a loss.  You still stung by Hillary losing the EC as well?

Is your profile pic a self portrait?
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2017, 01:49:43 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 12, 2017, 01:03:19 pm
Is your profile pic a self portrait?


Pretty pathetic comeback.


Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 12, 2017, 12:19:39 pm
Yup.

As much as I don't care for Trump, the liberal left agenda is still wholeheartedly rejected by most Americans.

The Democrat lost by 8 points, it wasn't close at all. 8 points is a blowout.


"Democrats tried to spin the win into a positive because the margin of victory was small. Naturally, many members of the political media joined them."


http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/04/republican-wins-kansas-special-house-election/#more-209386

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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2017, 01:57:23 pm »
8 points is damn close for Kansas considering that Pompeo won by more than 30 last time.

The real problem will be in races where the margins are normally under 10 points. The fact is that GOP margins of victory of 10 points is huge for most of us.
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2017, 01:57:28 pm »
The Dems don't get it. A lot of people dislike and are disgusted by Trump, but they really f'n hate Democrats a lot more. (paraphrasing the South Park guys in reference to political parties).  It shows just how bad the Dems have it.
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2017, 02:03:46 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on April 12, 2017, 01:57:28 pm
The Dems don't get it. A lot of people dislike and are disgusted by Trump, but they really f'n hate Democrats a lot more. (paraphrasing the South Park guys in reference to political parties).  It shows just how bad the Dems have it.

I dislike many republicans greatly but you couldn't hold a gun on me and make me vote for a democrat!
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2017, 02:06:08 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on April 12, 2017, 02:03:46 pm
I dislike many republicans greatly but you couldn't hold a gun on me and make me vote for a democrat!

That is why Trump won. Many disliked him but they would be damned if they were going to vote for Hillary.
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2017, 02:10:22 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on April 12, 2017, 02:03:46 pm
I dislike many republicans greatly but you couldn't hold a gun on me and make me vote for a democrat!


Which is why McConnell got re-elected in Kentucky.   Why Cochran got re-elected in Mississippi.   Why McCain keeps getting re-elected in Arizona,  and why Linda keeps getting re-elected in South Carolina.   


The NRA knows how to do it right. 

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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2017, 02:19:25 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on April 12, 2017, 12:54:07 pm
Republican holds on in closely-watched Kansas special House election

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/12/republican-holds-on-in-closely-watched-kansas-special-house-election.html

Estes won 53 percent of the vote to 46 percent for Thompson. The Republican's margin of victory was just over 8,000 votes. By contrast, Pompeo won re-election in November by 31 percentage points and 85,000 votes.



Which only proves that the power of incumbency gives about 20 percentage points to whomever is the incumbent. 


This is more evidence of a defective system than it is anything meaningful.   


By how many points did Pompeo win in his first election?   


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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2017, 02:22:33 pm »
Quote from: DiogenesLamp on April 12, 2017, 02:10:22 pm

Which is why McConnell got re-elected in Kentucky.   Why Cochran got re-elected in Mississippi.   Why McCain keeps getting re-elected in Arizona,  and why Linda keeps getting re-elected in South Carolina.   


The NRA knows how to do it right.

And why the elections of most interest to me are the primaries!

I know ALL about the NRA!  Gave them back a life membership in fact!
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2017, 08:08:46 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on April 12, 2017, 12:17:30 pm
Republicans win KS-4.  One down, three to go.


http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article144061274.html

Liberal press touting that he didn't win by a big enough margin.
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Re: Democrats hope to deliver Trump stinging defeats in special elections
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2017, 08:25:13 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on April 11, 2017, 07:06:30 pm
You know you are an out of power loser party if you have made some special election into a nation wide referendum. No matter what happens in this election the results are meaningless.

That's been the Dems playbook for years...especially when they are out of power...the race for Constable in Post, Texas turns into a nationwide referendum on the Republicans.

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Quote from: DiogenesLamp on April 12, 2017, 02:10:22 pm

Which is why McConnell got re-elected in Kentucky.   Why Cochran got re-elected in Mississippi.   Why McCain keeps getting re-elected in Arizona,  and why Linda keeps getting re-elected in South Carolina.   


The NRA knows how to do it right.

No McConnell should have lost his primary to the current Governor...Matt Bevin...but McConnell went all Liberal Democrat style character assassination on Bevin and used his Senatorial slush fun to beat him.  Bevin would have crushed the Dem...she was/is a nitwit.

Cochran had robo calls that invited Democrats to vote in the Republican primary and he ran ads painting his TEA Party challenger as a racist.

IIRC Mitch and company helped with that election too.

The three Old Bulls and the one Old Queen you mentioned are more interested in holding onto their position than doing what's right for their state or the people that elected them.  And they will cut off any up and coming Republican as the knees that dares challenge them.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2017, 09:26:54 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on April 12, 2017, 08:31:19 pm
No McConnell should have lost his primary to the current Governor...Matt Bevin...but McConnell went all Liberal Democrat style character assassination on Bevin and used his Senatorial slush fun to beat him.

And let's not forget the fat check that Donald Trump stroked for McConnell as his supporters tried to convince us that he was anti-Establishment.
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