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When it comes to public employee unions, there’s no such thing as a coincidence.

All you travelers stuck in mile-long TSA security lines are pawns. Convenient political pawns. Big Labor bosses want more power and more money. Stranded travelers are just the latest victims in this age-old game of D.C. extortion.

Union leaders want you to think the fault lies with a stingy Congress unwilling to fork over enough money to fill screener shortages. White House spokesman Josh Earnest poured more partisan fuel on the fire last week by blaming the nationwide slowdowns on “the inability of Republicans in Congress to govern the country.”

What a load of flying horse hockey.

The 15-year-old Transportation Security Administration now has a massive annual budget of nearly $7.6 billion and a workforce of nearly 60,000. They had enough tax dollars to waste on an idiotic $1.4 million iPad app that randomly points left or right; $3 million on more than 200 useless explosive detection “puffer” machines that didn’t detect explosives reliably; and unknown gobs in awards and automatic bonuses to senior TSA managers at a time when the agency was repeatedly failing internal tests of its ability to stop weapons, bombs and terror threats.

Yet, last week, with airlines, airports and customers all raising holy hell, Congress scraped together $34 million more to pay TSA screeners overtime and fund nearly 800 more screeners to address the summer travel crush.

It’s still not enough of course. It’s never enough.

http://humanevents.com/2016/05/18/tsas-union-power-grab-thousands-slowing-down-airports/


W could have forced them to be private when he proposed TSA, but caved.
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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 12:59:35 pm »
The democRATs who ran all of Congress in 2001 insisted on the newly proposed airport security being run by the federal government.  W was not going to win that fight and he knew it, and it was more important at the time to implement some kind of security measure for the sake of public confidence.

Yes, the federalization of airport security was always a terrible idea, and has shown over and over to have miserable consequences, but place the blame where it belongs.
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 01:16:54 pm »
The democRATs who ran all of Congress in 2001 insisted on the newly proposed airport security being run by the federal government.  W was not going to win that fight and he knew it, and it was more important at the time to implement some kind of security measure for the sake of public confidence.

Yes, the federalization of airport security was always a terrible idea, and has shown over and over to have miserable consequences, but place the blame where it belongs.

The TSA was created on November 19, 2001, a little over two months after 9/11.  The Congress was controlled by Republicans at the time so the organization was created as a federal entity.  There was never any discussion of handing security screening in airports to a private company, at least initially.  The main argument was against unionizing, but TSA was unionized in 2003.

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Private screening did not disappear under the TSA, which allows airports to opt out of federal screening and hire firms to do the job instead. Such firms must still get TSA approval under its Screening Partnership Program (SPP) and follow TSA procedures.

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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 01:19:51 pm »
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W could have forced them to be private when he proposed TSA, but caved.

Not really.

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The agency's proponents, including Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, argued that only a single federal agency would better protect air travel than the private companies who operated under contract to single airlines or groups of airlines that used a given terminal facility.
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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 01:29:55 pm »
The TSA was created on November 19, 2001, a little over two months after 9/11.  The Congress was controlled by Republicans at the time so the organization was created as a federal entity.  There was never any discussion of handing security screening in airports to a private company, at least initially.  The main argument was against unionizing, but TSA was unionized in 2003.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_Security_Administration

Jumping Jim Jeffords placed control of the Senate in the hands of the democRATs in June of 2001, with Tom Daschle becoming the Senate majority leader.  The House was divided 222 to 210 in favor of the GOP, but the liberal RINOs threw control of legislation to the democRATs.  I still remember the conservative complaints about Dick Gephart calling the shots in the House during the entire 107th Congress.
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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 01:31:48 pm »
I'm just thankful that, barring unforeseen circumstances, I have taken my last flight.

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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 01:34:03 pm »
Jumping Jim Jeffords placed control of the Senate in the hands of the democRATs in June of 2001, with Tom Daschle becoming the Senate majority leader.  The House was divided 222 to 210 in favor of the GOP, but the liberal RINOs threw control of legislation to the democRATs.  I still remember the conservative complaints about Dick Gephart calling the shots in the House during the entire 107th Congress.

You're right about that.  My bad.  But there was never any serious discussion of privatizing the TSA functions.  The atmosphere at the time was to act quickly to put security in place. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2016, 01:47:17 pm »
You're right about that.  My bad.  But there was never any serious discussion of privatizing the TSA functions.  The atmosphere at the time was to act quickly to put security in place.

You're correct.   The discussion about legislation in Congress never seriously considered private efforts to provide security.  But that really wasn't Bush's fault.  I think you and I agree that acting to quickly to reassure the travelling public that we were safe was the real point.  As always, hastily enacted laws have the worst unintended consequences (well, the democRAT's intentions are now abundantly clear...), but Bush didn't craft the legislation, he just signed what was sent to him without a fight.  In retrospect I wish that he had fought, but I'm still reasonably certain that his veto would have been easily overridden.

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2016, 12:19:16 am »
don-o wrote:
"I'm just thankful that, barring unforeseen circumstances, I have taken my last flight."

Migosh, you're just getting around to that now?

I took "my last flight" on a big jet in 1984.

The only way they're getting me on one again is in leg irons...  ;)

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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 01:10:00 am »
From MSN:

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In a new statement, the TSA placed blame on passengers, claiming that individuals are at fault for showing up to checkpoints unprepared. “Individuals who come to the TSA checkpoint unprepared for a trip can have a negative impact on the time it takes to complete the screening process,” the agency said in a press release, which also included travel tips to help cut down on delays.

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Typical bureaucratic response. Utterly tone deaf.

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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 11:12:06 am »
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With the summer travel season underway, fliers snarled by long airport security lines are demanding to know what's behind the delays.

A former top Transportation Security Administration (TSA) official says staffing errors at the agency is to blame.

"TSA has made bad assumptions about the level of personnel resources necessary to process the two million passengers a day that come through," Tom Blank told CNBC's On The Money in a recent interview.

Blank served in senior posts from the agency's founding under the presidential administration of George W. Bush in 2001. He created the TSA's security policy and left in late 2005 after serving as the agency's number two official, and is frequently referred to as one of the agency's "founding fathers."   ...
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In part, he blames TSA for underestimating the number of people who wanted to pay to sign up for Pre-Check. Why the heck should law-abiding citizens have to pay even more for their travel? Maybe if they'd stop strip-searching babies and the elderly, they could devote a little more time to burqa-wearers. (Oh no, I said something "racist")
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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2016, 08:41:32 pm »
My (very NSFW) response to the TSA:


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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2016, 08:46:32 pm »
Perhaps we should move the head of the VA to the TSA. At least the Disney world comparison is closer to the mark.

With the Obama admin the buck always stops somewhere else.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2016, 03:39:05 pm »

TSA Failures Keep U.S. Train System Vulnerable to Terrorist Attack
by JUDICIAL WATCH
June 2, 2016

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The nation's train system remains dangerously vulnerable to a terrorist attack because the agency created after 9/11 to protect it hasn't bothered implementing crucial security measures, including performing background checks on frontline railroad employees. You can't make this stuff up. A decade and a half after Islamic terrorists used commercial planes to carry out the worst attack on American soil, the government can't seem to fulfill its obligation to adequately protect all transportation systems.

It involves the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), the famously inept multi-billion-dollar agency created by Congress to secure the nation's transportation system after the 2001 attacks. Judicial Watch has reported on a multitude of TSA transgressions over the years and sued the agency to uncover documents detailing sexually-related assaults on passengers by agents at three major U.S. airports. Over the years the TSA has made headlines for missing weapons and bombs during test security checks, hiring an accused child molester without a background check, clearing flight training for illegal immigrants, letting terrorists slip past its highly trained behavior detection officers and failing to properly vet airport workers with access to sensitive areas. A few years ago TSA missed a piece of luggage that somehow got on a commercial plan and exploded after landing in south Florida. The list of transgressions goes on and on.

In this latest case, an audit conducted by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector General reveals that the nation's passenger train system-known as Amtrak-has been treated like a stepchild when it comes to security. This is worrisome, the watchdog points out, because recent global events highlight the vulnerability of rail systems to terrorist attacks and the importance of security for passengers. As an example, the DHS IG lists in its report the August 2015 incident in which armed gunman terrorized a passenger train traveling from Amsterdam to Paris. The plot inspired two members of Congress to request that the TSA provide an update on the state of domestic rail security, including the implementation of recommendations made by the 9/11 Commission. It's not pretty. The agency has neither implemented 9/11 Commission requirements or key passenger rail requirements, according to the IG.

This is a major transportation system with 300 trains that travel throughout 46 states and Canada with about 31 million passengers annually. Legislation passed after 9/11 requires the TSA to take a number of rail security measures that the agency has evidently blown off. Among them is a national railroad security strategy, assigning rail carriers to risk-based tiers and creating a training program for rail carriers. The TSA is also supposed to perform background checks for frontline railroad employees as it's supposed to do for airport workers. Why is this bloated agency dragging its feet? Investigators reveal in their findings that the TSA is blaming it all on the "complex federal rulemaking process." Keep in mind it's been eight years since legislation was passed mandating the agency to create a system to protect passenger trains.

It's not like money hasn't been allocated to railroad security but the absence of a concrete, organized plan has resulted in waste while the system remains vulnerable. Back in 2011 JW reported that DHS gave Amtrak more than $1 billion to bolster security but the money wasn't spent efficiently to adequately protect the most vulnerable stations. This occurred because DHS simply doled out the cash but never followed up to ensure it was being properly and effectively spent on security. DHS never required Amtrak to develop a corrective action plan to address its biggest vulnerabilities, approved lower risk projects and didn't document roles and responsibilities for the grant award process, according to a federal audit. "As a result, some rail stations and the traveling public may be at a greater risk to a potential terrorist attack," investigators determined. This was five years ago and it seems that little has changed amid growing threats of a terrorist attack.

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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2016, 12:19:26 pm »
No kidding.
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Is the TSA’s $85 PreCheck Program Too Pricey?
Justin Bachman,Bloomberg Thu, Jun 2 3:00 AM PDT

The “divesting” of shoes, laptops, and toothpaste tubes, to use the U.S. Transportation Security Agency’s term, has been one factor in the airport security lines entangling U.S. travelers this spring.

The agency’s PreCheck program is designed to fix that problem and move the lines—but only 2.77 million people have enrolled to date, far below projections. The TSA wants to have 25 million people signed up by 2019 for federal “trusted traveler” programs such as PreCheck, for domestic travel, and Global Entry, the program for international travelers run by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Efforts to push TSA PreCheck were galvanized this spring by weeks of frustratingly long security lines which quickly spiked enrollments. Daily applications jumped to 16,000 in May, double the rate of the prior month. “I won’t say we were caught off guard with this, but I will tell you the surge happened much more rapidly than anyone could anticipate,” said Charlie Carroll, a senior vice president at MorphoTrust USA, which runs the program. The Billerica, Mass.-based company is owned by Safran SA, the French aerospace conglomerate.

But according to the U.S. Travel Association, a lower fee and simpler application process would spur 7 million more people to enroll in the PreCheck program. In a statement Thursday, the group based its claim on a survey of 1,000 domestic travelers conducted March 7-10. Of the 1,000 people, 20.5 percent said they would likely enroll in PreCheck. Among the rest, half cited the $85 fee as the reason they would probably not enroll.   ...
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Re: TSA Says Passengers Only Have Themselves to Blame For Long Lines
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2016, 01:58:36 pm »
You're correct.   The discussion about legislation in Congress never seriously considered private efforts to provide security.  But that really wasn't Bush's fault.  I think you and I agree that acting to quickly to reassure the travelling public that we were safe was the real point.  As always, hastily enacted laws have the worst unintended consequences (well, the democRAT's intentions are now abundantly clear...), but Bush didn't craft the legislation, he just signed what was sent to him without a fight.  In retrospect I wish that he had fought, but I'm still reasonably certain that his veto would have been easily overridden.

Caving to Dem demands for more federal govt employees is symptomatic of W's legacy.  He expanded the federal govt reach in a number of other areas as well, like Education, his disastrous Prescription Plan and DOE.

A firm hand saying no and a decidedly eloquent speech like he was capable of following 9/11 could have possibly prevented the expansion of the federal grab.
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2016, 02:49:25 pm »
You're right about that.  My bad.  But there was never any serious discussion of privatizing the TSA functions.  The atmosphere at the time was to act quickly to put security in place.

Private screening was in place on 9/11.
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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2016, 03:19:26 pm »
This is the real 1 percenters. The class of bureaucrats and lawmakers that are exempt from having to experience the consequences of their actions. The exempted class will never have to wait in a TSA line to fly.

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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2016, 03:36:07 pm »
This is the real 1 percenters. The class of bureaucrats and lawmakers that are exempt from having to experience the consequences of their actions. The exempted class will never have to wait in a TSA line to fly.
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