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Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
Trump frequently claims he is drawing away votes from the Democrats, but primaries data says turnout proves a wash at best.

By Tova Dvorin
First Publish: 5/23/2016, 2:28 PM

Republican front-runner Donald Trump is not expanding the Republican Party by "millions and millions" of voters as he claims, new data released Sunday reveals.

GOP primary data thus far reveals that an increased voter turnout is from Republicans who traditionally skipped voter primaries and merely voted in general elections - but were, nonetheless, Republican voters, Politico reports. The news outlet used data from GOP officials and several independent analyses to present the findings.

In Virginia, for example, 1,025,452 voters participated in the primaries - three times the number in 2012, according to an Optimus poll. But 90.7% were either regular primaries voters (18.6%) or Republican voters who usually only voted in the general elections (72.1%); 3.6% were young voters or news residents of the state. As such, just 5.7% of voters - 58,450 people - appeared to have migrated from other parties.

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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 01:26:33 pm »
Bu-bu-but I just got told that Republican Trump supporters vastly outnumber...what were we called...hang on..oh yeah..."the enemy".  **nononono*

He got a lot of crossover in the open primary states and IMHO that was because the Dems believe their best chance to win is Hillary v Trump.

Those Dems that crossed over in the primaries will go back and pull the lever for Hillary in the GE and leave the Trump supporters scratching their heads wondering where their YUUUUGE base of support disappeared to.

That and the more trump opens his mouth...the more silly tweets he puts out and the more he backtracks and sounds like a Liberal...the more Republicans you'll see either voting 3rd party or not checking the block for a Presidential candidate.
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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 01:40:01 pm »
Trump is not bringing Democrats into the party.  And, in fact, when Bernie caves, 90% of his supporters will migrate back to Hillary and we'll see the same electoral map we saw two months ago:  Hillary will be leading by 10 points or more.
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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 01:40:51 pm »
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Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans

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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 02:06:58 pm »
Its a misleading Meme. First. It was a GOP Primary so it would have for most part GOP registered people. 2nd many GOP voters have been sitting out the Elections when McCain and Romney were on the ticket,  aka Inactive who became active. 3rd it mixes in registered independents in open Primary States in its registered voter totals. And 4th it confirms that in addition to the base, disenfranchised and independents its is bringing in almost 6 percent new voters IN A PRIMARY.

If the ratio of Independents and new voters stays only the same its a landslide election coming.

Now the 2 questions for #neverTrump people. Why would the sources spin this into a negative and 2 why did you not see that the facts inside it were not bad for Trump at all? 

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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 02:18:57 pm »
That's all right, because I'm told blacks and Hispanics will vote for Trump in massive numbers.   :whistle:

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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 02:24:04 pm »
Its a misleading Meme. First. It was a GOP Primary so it would have for most part GOP registered people. 2nd many GOP voters have been sitting out the Elections when McCain and Romney were on the ticket,  aka Inactive who became active. 3rd it mixes in registered independents in open Primary States in its registered voter totals. And 4th it confirms that in addition to the base, disenfranchised and independents its is bringing in almost 6 percent new voters IN A PRIMARY.

If the ratio of Independents and new voters stays only the same its a landslide election coming.

Now the 2 questions for #neverTrump people. Why would the sources spin this into a negative and 2 why did you not see that the facts inside it were not bad for Trump at all?

You should really kick these talking points back to the mother shi(p). They are incredibly lame.
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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2016, 02:25:14 pm »
You should really kick these talking points back to the mother shi(p). They are incredibly lame.
But quite effective.

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 02:29:55 pm »
But quite effective.

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Hmmm. Not so much.
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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 03:10:30 pm »
Its a misleading Meme. First. It was a GOP Primary so it would have for most part GOP registered people. 2nd many GOP voters have been sitting out the Elections when McCain and Romney were on the ticket,  aka Inactive who became active. 3rd it mixes in registered independents in open Primary States in its registered voter totals. And 4th it confirms that in addition to the base, disenfranchised and independents its is bringing in almost 6 percent new voters IN A PRIMARY.

If the ratio of Independents and new voters stays only the same its a landslide election coming.

Now the 2 questions for #neverTrump people. Why would the sources spin this into a negative and 2 why did you not see that the facts inside it were not bad for Trump at all?

??? Actually the only one that is misleading is Trump claiming he's drawing in new voters and that he's popular with DEMS, Hispanics, women and blacks love him!  What flavour of kool-aid did you drink?  It is a FACT that Trump won heavily in the open primary states; meaning that voters didn't have to be registered to any party. The DEM crossovers voted for Donny because they knew he is a hollow drum and was the easiest candidate to beat! This illusion that Donny is bringing in so many new voters was created by himself, without that stats to back him up ... typical example of Trump rhetoric that his supporters have bought into hook, line and sinker.

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2016, 03:14:11 pm »
??? Actually the only one that is misleading is Trump claiming he's drawing in new voters and that he's popular with DEMS, Hispanics, women and blacks love him!  What flavour of kool-aid did you drink?  It is a FACT that Trump won heavily in the open primary states; meaning that voters didn't have to be registered to any party. The DEM crossovers voted for Donny because they knew he is a hollow drum and was the easiest candidate to beat! This illusion that Donny is bringing in so many new voters was created by himself, without that stats to back him up ... typical example of Trump rhetoric that his supporters have bought into hook, line and sinker.

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Well we have exit polls done at the time of the primaries themselves and published and then we have the left wing created Anti-Trump hit piece now saying the opposite. Who you going to believe, your own lyin' eyes or some left wing created hit piece?
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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 03:31:34 pm »
The DEM crossovers voted for Donny because they knew he is a hollow drum and was the easiest candidate to beat!

Is there actual evidence to support this, or is it just speculation?

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Re: Data proves Trump not drawing in new votes for Republicans
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2016, 06:08:44 pm »
Its a misleading Meme. First. It was a GOP Primary so it would have for most part GOP registered people. 2nd many GOP voters have been sitting out the Elections when McCain and Romney were on the ticket,  aka Inactive who became active. 3rd it mixes in registered independents in open Primary States in its registered voter totals. And 4th it confirms that in addition to the base, disenfranchised and independents its is bringing in almost 6 percent new voters IN A PRIMARY.

If the ratio of Independents and new voters stays only the same its a landslide election coming.

Now the 2 questions for #neverTrump people. Why would the sources spin this into a negative and 2 why did you not see that the facts inside it were not bad for Trump at all?
So the fact that 65% of the Virginia voters came out to vote for someone not named Trump was not bad for Trump at all?
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2016, 06:42:32 pm »
So the fact that 65% of the Virginia voters came out to vote for someone not named Trump was not bad for Trump at all?
As if that is relevant to what was being discussed.
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2016, 08:43:35 pm »
As if that is relevant to what was being discussed.
I noticed you do this a lot. You come up with a statement which the article intimates nowhere like "Now the 2 questions for #neverTrump people. Why would the sources spin this into a negative and 2 why did you not see that the facts inside it were not bad for Trump at all?" Then if anyone else tries to add to the conversation you indicate it is irrelevant to the thread. It is irrelevant to your argument.
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