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COULD THIS BE DONALD TRUMP’S VICE PRESIDENT PICK?
« on: March 16, 2016, 04:55:56 pm »
Donald Trump, the current GOP front-runner in election 2016, will select Susana Martinez, the governor of New Mexico, as his vice presidential running mate, assuming Trump wins the Republican nomination.

Given that Hillary Clinton is his likely (but not 100 percent certain) opponent, and that The Donald has been accused of misogyny, it seems essential to put a woman on the Trump ticket.

Susana Martinez is the first woman ever to be elected governor of her state and the first Hispanic female governor in the U.S. She is the 2016 chair of the Republican Governors Association.

A former long-time prosecutor with a tough law-and-order philosophy and like Trump a former Democrat, Gov. Martinez – who was reelected for a second term in 2014 — checks all the boxes, to use an annoying cliché, and also puts a swing/blue state into play for the Republicans in the Electoral College for the general election.

That being said, an elected official of Martinez’s stature would understandably only accept the VP slot if it came with substantive responsibilities rather than just traditional place-holding ceremonial duties, however.

Martinez served as District Attorney for Dona Ana County in New Mexico for 14 years prior to successfully running for governor against then-Lt. Gov. Diane Denish, the Democrat candidate, in 2010.

Susana Martinez cut perhaps the best political ad in the 2010 election cycle.

http://sgtreport.com/2016/03/could-this-be-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick/

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Re: COULD THIS BE DONALD TRUMP’S VICE PRESIDENT PICK?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 05:02:08 pm »

She has spoken against Trump. (but so did Gov. Christie) Would she join with Trump? Not sure she is politically that ambitious.

Strategically she would be a good choice. There is real potential with Hispanics. 

Great in a small state. Maybe not up to a national effort.

 
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2016, 05:05:23 pm »
She has spoken against Trump. (but so did Gov. Christie) Would she join with Trump? Not sure she is politically that ambitious.

Strategically she would be a good choice. There is real potential with Hispanics. 

Great in a small state. Maybe not up to a national effort.

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The Hispanics that see what is coming know that if either Hillary or another neocon wins, the country that their parents left Mexico for will no longer exist.

You never hear about them.  They need to be more vocal.

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Re: COULD THIS BE DONALD TRUMP’S VICE PRESIDENT PICK?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2016, 05:12:00 pm »
Still Like TRUMP / Cruz. Can happen when CRUZ loses the NE Big Time. Not winning a state last night really hurt him. Hopefully he called TRUMP for coffee this morning? :whistle:

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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2016, 05:30:41 pm »
Still Like TRUMP / Cruz. Can happen when CRUZ loses the NE Big Time. Not winning a state last night really hurt him. Hopefully he called TRUMP for coffee this morning? :whistle:
I am fine with Trump-Cruz. The problem, is Cruz willing?

My feeling about Cruz: He lacks "down to earth" type appeal with Hispanics. He is a fancy talking lawyer.

Would he move any states from D to R if on the ticket with Trump?
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2016, 05:40:32 pm »
I am fine with Trump-Cruz. The problem, is Cruz willing?

My feeling about Cruz: He lacks "down to earth" type appeal with Hispanics. He is a fancy talking lawyer.

Would he move any states from D to R if on the ticket with Trump?

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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2016, 05:43:07 pm »
Still Like TRUMP / Cruz. Can happen when CRUZ loses the NE Big Time. Not winning a state last night really hurt him. Hopefully he called TRUMP for coffee this morning? :whistle:

I at one time thought that Trump/Cruz would be the 'dream team'., and at one time, I thought it may be planned, but I just don't see it happening anymore, nor would I welcome it. Trump's true colors have come out and he unloaded on Cruz like no one else. Some of the outlandish things he has said and lies and rumors he has told about Cruz demolished that ticket. Certainly Trump is not a character match for Cruz as Trump has little integrity, constraint, or tract and has no real presidential qualifies and for those reasons and as Cruz has stated (and is correct) Trump can't win against Hillary.



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Re: COULD THIS BE DONALD TRUMP’S VICE PRESIDENT PICK?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2016, 05:58:54 pm »
I at one time thought that Trump/Cruz would be the 'dream team'., and at one time, I thought it may be planned, but I just don't see it happening anymore, nor would I welcome it. Trump's true colors have come out and he unloaded on Cruz like no one else. Some of the outlandish things he has said and lies and rumors he has told about Cruz demolished that ticket. Certainly Trump is not a character match for Cruz as Trump has little integrity, constraint, or tract and has no real presidential qualifies and for those reasons and as Cruz has stated (and is correct) Trump can't win against Hillary.
Trust me when I say that what takes place in a primary, is easily set aside.

GHW Bush sucked it up to become VP. He blew his chance to be a two term President.

VP is a really big deal. It launched Truman, Nixon, Johnson, who all won. It launched Nixon, Humphrey, Mondale, Gore who lost. (Even now if Hillary stumbles, Biden could emerge)

But the point is it launches future attempts at President. 
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Re: COULD THIS BE DONALD TRUMP’S VICE PRESIDENT PICK?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2016, 05:59:58 pm »
Still Like TRUMP / Cruz. Can happen when CRUZ loses the NE Big Time. Not winning a state last night really hurt him. Hopefully he called TRUMP for coffee this morning? :whistle:

Martinez would be a good pick.  Smarter still would be for Trump to pledge that his first act as POTUS would be to put Cruz on the SCOTUS and then put someone like Martinez or Kasich on the ticket.  The promise of Cruz on the Supreme Court should be enough to prevent any third party attempt by constitutional/libertarian conservatives.

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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2016, 06:36:57 pm »
I think a much more likely pick is Illeana Ros-Lehtinen...a Cuban-American congresswoman from the key state of Florida. Her views are better aligned with Mr. Trump on immigration and economic policy and she aligns quite well with him on social issues. She would be a great outreach leader to women and Latinos and is a strong personality in her own right. As importantly, she would be of great help in locking down Florida. Martinez has already expressed dislike for Trump and is from a state that offers little in electoral terms, so just can't see her happening. Ros-Lehtinen is a near perfect fit electorally and politically, so seems a much better choice in a strategic sense.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2016, 06:57:57 pm »
I think a much more likely pick is Illeana Ros-Lehtinen...a Cuban-American congresswoman from the key state of Florida. Her views are better aligned with Mr. Trump on immigration and economic policy and she aligns quite well with him on social issues. She would be a great outreach leader to women and Latinos and is a strong personality in her own right. As importantly, she would be of great help in locking down Florida. Martinez has already expressed dislike for Trump and is from a state that offers little in electoral terms, so just can't see her happening. Ros-Lehtinen is a near perfect fit electorally and politically, so seems a much better choice in a strategic sense.

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Good observation.  But Ros-Lehtinen is an unknown nationally while Martinez isn't.

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Re: COULD THIS BE DONALD TRUMP’S VICE PRESIDENT PICK?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2016, 06:58:37 pm »
I think a much more likely pick is Illeana Ros-Lehtinen...a Cuban-American congresswoman from the key state of Florida. Her views are better aligned with Mr. Trump on immigration and economic policy and she aligns quite well with him on social issues. She would be a great outreach leader to women and Latinos and is a strong personality in her own right. As importantly, she would be of great help in locking down Florida. Martinez has already expressed dislike for Trump and is from a state that offers little in electoral terms, so just can't see her happening. Ros-Lehtinen is a near perfect fit electorally and politically, so seems a much better choice in a strategic sense.

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2016, 08:49:25 pm »
Thanks for the greeting, I'm thrilled to have come across this board!

I'm a former Poli-Sci guy, ex Army Captain, currently working as a Federal Explosive Detection Canine Handler....so I'm VERY interested in what is an incredibly unique political season. In some ways, it all reminds me of the 1980 election year but it also has some entirely unprecedented characteristics....specifically...I don't believe we've ever seen (in the modern era) a party leadership so strongly invested in stopping a candidate who is clearly the front runner and likely nominee...there was resistance to Reagan amongst the elite in 1976 (and 1980), but nowhere near the rancor we are seeing today.

Perhaps a comparison could be made to Goldwater, though the context was quite different in 1964.

What does correlate to past electoral events, is Trump trailing Hillary as of today...as Reagan trailed Carter significantly in mid march 1980 (by 10-15 points). As with Reagan, if Trump can start to coalesce the various factions within the GOP, you can expect him to draw even with her by early May and then to move ahead of her as the convention nears. I think the only thing that can prevent that, is a sustained...well funded... and concerted effort from within the GOP leadership to tear down its own likely nominee. Which of course, would be an act of genuine insanity. That kind of suicidal act is likely to hand the election to Hillary, whereas even a grudging acceptance form the establishment is almost certain to change the entire dynamic of the race leading to a Trump win.

Unfortunately, I think there is at least an element within GOP leadership...see Romney and confederates...who would rather lose to Hillary than see Trump win a general election. A Trump victory would shatter the establishment's grip on the party and alter its trajectory putting a new focus on attracting support from Blue Collar and middle class America. Too many in the GOP leadership fear damage to their own positions and power structure more than they fear the horrific damage a Clinton administration will do to the country. And that's genuinely pathetic in my opinion, a sort of "take my ball and go home if things don't go my way" attitude that can only lead to self destruction.

So our best hope has to be that the more rational elements in the current leadership can accept that Trump is reshaping a more populist GOP and that they would be wiser to board that train...rather than derail it and put the nation on a deadly path towards more socialistic governance under Hillary. Trump MUST find a way to facilitate the leadership's transition from opposition to, at the very least, grudging acceptance of his candidacy...and he can most easily achieve this through easing his tone towards fellow Republicans (even leadership/establishment types) and aiming his acidic wit towards a more apt target...Hillary Clinton. The formula is simple, to steal a famous quote, we must all stand together...or we shall surely hang (or at least lose) separately.   

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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2016, 09:42:12 pm »
Thanks for the greeting, I'm thrilled to have come across this board!

I'm a former Poli-Sci guy, ex Army Captain, currently working as a Federal Explosive Detection Canine Handler....so I'm VERY interested in what is an incredibly unique political season. In some ways, it all reminds me of the 1980 election year but it also has some entirely unprecedented characteristics....specifically...I don't believe we've ever seen (in the modern era) a party leadership so strongly invested in stopping a candidate who is clearly the front runner and likely nominee...there was resistance to Reagan amongst the elite in 1976 (and 1980), but nowhere near the rancor we are seeing today.

Perhaps a comparison could be made to Goldwater, though the context was quite different in 1964.

What does correlate to past electoral events, is Trump trailing Hillary as of today...as Reagan trailed Carter significantly in mid march 1980 (by 10-15 points). As with Reagan, if Trump can start to coalesce the various factions within the GOP, you can expect him to draw even with her by early May and then to move ahead of her as the convention nears. I think the only thing that can prevent that, is a sustained...well funded... and concerted effort from within the GOP leadership to tear down its own likely nominee. Which of course, would be an act of genuine insanity. That kind of suicidal act is likely to hand the election to Hillary, whereas even a grudging acceptance form the establishment is almost certain to change the entire dynamic of the race leading to a Trump win.

Unfortunately, I think there is at least an element within GOP leadership...see Romney and confederates...who would rather lose to Hillary than see Trump win a general election. A Trump victory would shatter the establishment's grip on the party and alter its trajectory putting a new focus on attracting support from Blue Collar and middle class America. Too many in the GOP leadership fear damage to their own positions and power structure more than they fear the horrific damage a Clinton administration will do to the country. And that's genuinely pathetic in my opinion, a sort of "take my ball and go home if things don't go my way" attitude that can only lead to self destruction.

So our best hope has to be that the more rational elements in the current leadership can accept that Trump is reshaping a more populist GOP and that they would be wiser to board that train...rather than derail it and put the nation on a deadly path towards more socialistic governance under Hillary. Trump MUST find a way to facilitate the leadership's transition from opposition to, at the very least, grudging acceptance of his candidacy...and he can most easily achieve this through easing his tone towards fellow Republicans (even leadership/establishment types) and aiming his acidic wit towards a more apt target...Hillary Clinton. The formula is simple, to steal a famous quote, we must all stand together...or we shall surely hang (or at least lose) separately.
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2016, 09:46:46 pm »
Thanks for the greeting, I'm thrilled to have come across this board!

I'm a former Poli-Sci guy, ex Army Captain, currently working as a Federal Explosive Detection Canine Handler....so I'm VERY interested in what is an incredibly unique political season. In some ways, it all reminds me of the 1980 election year but it also has some entirely unprecedented characteristics....specifically...I don't believe we've ever seen (in the modern era) a party leadership so strongly invested in stopping a candidate who is clearly the front runner and likely nominee...there was resistance to Reagan amongst the elite in 1976 (and 1980), but nowhere near the rancor we are seeing today.

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Good observation sir.  Hope to hear more from you.

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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2016, 09:47:25 pm »
Thanks for the greeting, I'm thrilled to have come across this board!

I'm a former Poli-Sci guy, ex Army Captain, currently working as a Federal Explosive Detection Canine Handler....so I'm VERY interested in what is an incredibly unique political season. In some ways, it all reminds me of the 1980 election year but it also has some entirely unprecedented characteristics....specifically...I don't believe we've ever seen (in the modern era) a party leadership so strongly invested in stopping a candidate who is clearly the front runner and likely nominee...there was resistance to Reagan amongst the elite in 1976 (and 1980), but nowhere near the rancor we are seeing today.

Perhaps a comparison could be made to Goldwater, though the context was quite different in 1964.

What does correlate to past electoral events, is Trump trailing Hillary as of today...as Reagan trailed Carter significantly in mid march 1980 (by 10-15 points). As with Reagan, if Trump can start to coalesce the various factions within the GOP, you can expect him to draw even with her by early May and then to move ahead of her as the convention nears. I think the only thing that can prevent that, is a sustained...well funded... and concerted effort from within the GOP leadership to tear down its own likely nominee. Which of course, would be an act of genuine insanity. That kind of suicidal act is likely to hand the election to Hillary, whereas even a grudging acceptance form the establishment is almost certain to change the entire dynamic of the race leading to a Trump win.

Unfortunately, I think there is at least an element within GOP leadership...see Romney and confederates...who would rather lose to Hillary than see Trump win a general election. A Trump victory would shatter the establishment's grip on the party and alter its trajectory putting a new focus on attracting support from Blue Collar and middle class America. Too many in the GOP leadership fear damage to their own positions and power structure more than they fear the horrific damage a Clinton administration will do to the country. And that's genuinely pathetic in my opinion, a sort of "take my ball and go home if things don't go my way" attitude that can only lead to self destruction.

So our best hope has to be that the more rational elements in the current leadership can accept that Trump is reshaping a more populist GOP and that they would be wiser to board that train...rather than derail it and put the nation on a deadly path towards more socialistic governance under Hillary. Trump MUST find a way to facilitate the leadership's transition from opposition to, at the very least, grudging acceptance of his candidacy...and he can most easily achieve this through easing his tone towards fellow Republicans (even leadership/establishment types) and aiming his acidic wit towards a more apt target...Hillary Clinton. The formula is simple, to steal a famous quote, we must all stand together...or we shall surely hang (or at least lose) separately.

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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2016, 09:59:13 pm »
I just want to take this opportunity to add my welcome, Mesaclone. I read through your initial comments here and I'd just like to say there's not a thing you said that I can disagree with! Again, welcome! I'm looking forward to reading more of your perspective.

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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2016, 10:05:42 pm »
I just want to take this opportunity to add my welcome, Mesaclone. I read through your initial comments here and I'd just like to say there's not a thing you said that I can disagree with! Again, welcome! I'm looking forward to reading more of your perspective.

Thank you, that's very kind of you to say. I look forward to many fruitful exchanges!
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2016, 03:01:09 am »
Mesaclone wrote above:
"I think the only thing that can prevent that, is a sustained...well funded... and concerted effort from within the GOP leadership to tear down its own likely nominee. Which of course, would be an act of genuine insanity. That kind of suicidal act is likely to hand the election to Hillary, whereas even a grudging acceptance form the establishment is almost certain to change the entire dynamic of the race leading to a Trump win."

I've been reading all your posts carefully.
If you're smart, you'll ignore most of mine!

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2016, 03:28:51 pm »
Since Trump won't win the general one might as well ask how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.