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Houston Police Vow to Go After Anti-Gun Groups Calling 911 on Open Carriers in Texas

December 30, 2015 by Guns 'n' Freedom 4 Comments

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Texas will soon join the other 45 US states that allow open carry and anti-gun groups are not happy about it.

At least one anti-gun group is attempting to make life miserable for all gun owners who choose to openly and legally carry their firearms by calling 911 and making false claims.

The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) is using social media to urge people to call 911 any time they see someone openly carrying a firearm.

According to Outdoorlife.com,

    CSGV is actively promoting “SWATting,” the act of tricking an emergency service into dispatching responders based on a false report. In a Sept. 2 screenshot of a CSGV Facebook post published by Amy Miller on legalinsurrection.com, the group urges readers to take action in this manner:

    “If you see someone carrying a firearm in public — openly or concealed — and have ANY doubts about their intent, call 911 immediately and ask police to come to the scene.”

    The problem is, open carry is legal and a common daily practice by millions of law-abiding and responsible gun owners. Open carry is only prohibited in five states — California, Florida, Illinois, New York, and South Carolina.

    The Ohio-based Buckeye Firearms Association and Virginia-based Gun Owners of America were among the first groups to warn fellow gun owners of the CSGV’s ‘SWATting’ campaign, reported Perry Chiaramonte on FoxNews.com on Sept. 1.

    “This practice is exactly what they (CSGV) are doing,” GOA spokesman Erich Pratt told Chiaramonte. “They are inciting their radical base to turn their own neighbors in. Anti-gun advocates are clearly frustrated. They want guns banned. But they have been thwarted in the past, so they are looking for alternative means.”

But this practice is not only annoying and illegal, it also can create lethal situations between police and law abiding citizens over misunderstandings due to the misinformation.

Still the gun group is wanting to use any means of falsified information in order to get open carry overturned in Texas.  Here are just a few examples cited by Charles Cook in a National Review article

    Cooke cites these examples:

    —Reacting to a photograph of a man standing at a checkout with a handgun holstered upon his hip, a “mom-who-demands-action” Joyce Ward asks, “Why weren’t the police called immediately?” And “why,” Ward continues, “wasn’t he shot by the police for having a weapon?”

    —Fellow poster Lisa McLogan Shaheen has a similar inquiry, wondering, “Why hasn’t someone called 911 so the cops can gun him down?”

    —“Every time I see someone with a gun in a store I will call 911,” Jennifer Decker vows, “they’ll get tired of that right quick!!!”

    —“Just call the police every time you see someone with one,” Ann Marie counsels, “the police will get sick of it eventually or have a run in with one of these clowns and then things will change.”

But a question and answer page on a Houston government website makes it clear that those who follow the anti-gun group’s advice could end up on the wrong side of the law and even face jail time.

    Question: If I see a person open carrying a handgun, should I call the police?
    Answer: Yes you can call the police, but before you call, observe how the person is acting. If they are acting suspicious, or enter a building such as a school, then please give us a call. But, if they are simply at a gas station filling up their car, then they are probably a law abiding citizen who is legally open carrying.

    Question: Some organizations that are in opposition to open carry, have said that if they see someone openly carrying a handgun, they will call 911 and say that person is being aggressive and threatening people with the weapon. How will the police handle situations like this.
    Answer: The police will act with caution when approaching the person, they will collect the facts, and when it is found that this person was doing nothing wrong, the investigation will be turned towards the person who made the false 911 call.

- See more at: http://gunsnfreedom.com/houston-police-vow-to-go-after-anti-gun-groups-calling-911-on-open-carriers-in-texas/6060#sthash.jHg7qTAy.dpuf

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Aug 22, 2014
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Map: Where Is ‘Open Carry’ Legal?
 

    By Rani Molla
 

As people on both sides of the debate regarding open carry—the practice of carrying firearms in plain view—have been turning up the heat, more companies are being forced to take a side.

Gun-rights advocates see the practice as a way to normalize gun ownership and deter crime, while gun-control activists believe carrying guns in stores and restaurants is disruptive to the public and encourages violence.

Recently, Target, Starbucks and Chipotle have asked their patrons not to bring their guns. After petitions by gun-control groups such as Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, Kroger said it would uphold local and state laws in the 34 states it operates.

Carrying a firearm in a concealed manner is legal in all states, but open carry has more restrictions, especially for handguns. Though federal law doesn’t restrict the open carrying of handguns in public, several states—including California, Florida, Illinois, New York, South Carolina and Texas—ban the practice, according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Thirteen states require a special permit or license to open carry. The remaining 31 states don’t require one. The laws are different for long guns, which are commonly associated with hunting.

    In a Thursday, Jan. 12, 2012 photo, Rick Ector carries his Smith and Wesson 9mm as he prepares to pump gas in Detroit. Ector is pushing to make Detroit an “open carry” city and organizes public dinners and picnics where each legally licensed attendee wears a handgun. (AP Photo/Carlos Osorio)

Why is open carry causing so much of a stir when concealed carry is so widespread?

“Concealed carry—you don’t know who’s doing it and it doesn’t cause as much concern as open carry,” said Laura Cutilletta, senior staff attorney at the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. “One is a danger you know, and one is a danger you don’t know.”

According to Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action,”The National Rifle Association strongly supports conceal carry and open carry, and we will continue to lead the charge to protect and expand the right to self defense for law abiding Americans throughout the country.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/numbers/map-where-is-open-carry-legal-1715/
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Carrying a firearm in a concealed manner is legal in all states,
Is this article telling us that having a concealed firearm is legal without a CC for your state? Anyone?


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Is this article telling us that having a concealed firearm is legal without a CC for your state? Anyone?

What it is saying is almost every state has a conceal/carry law of some sort.  But to carry a concealed weapon, you must have a permit meeting the requirements of that state.  If you want to go open carry, which does not require a permit, the weapon must be displayed in such a way that an average person, without any background in such things, would recognize it as a gun.  Partial concealment of a gun, makes it concealed.

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What it is saying is almost every state has a conceal/carry law of some sort.  But to carry a concealed weapon, you must have a permit meeting the requirements of that state.  If you want to go open carry, which does not require a permit, the weapon must be displayed in such a way that an average person, without any background in such things, would recognize it as a gun.  Partial concealment of a gun, makes it concealed.
Thank you. that is why I got one. I sometimes by mistake would cover it when traveling or put in jockey box. Didn't want any trouble.


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—Reacting to a photograph of a man standing at a checkout with a handgun holstered upon his hip, a “mom-who-demands-action” Joyce Ward asks, “Why weren’t the police called immediately?” And “why,” Ward continues, “wasn’t he shot by the police for having a weapon?”

    —Fellow poster Lisa McLogan Shaheen has a similar inquiry, wondering, “Why hasn’t someone called 911 so the cops can gun him down?”

    —“Every time I see someone with a gun in a store I will call 911,” Jennifer Decker vows, “they’ll get tired of that right quick!!!”

    —“Just call the police every time you see someone with one,” Ann Marie counsels, “the police will get sick of it eventually or have a run in with one of these clowns and then things will change.”

They say they are against violence, yet they want these people gunned down in the street. Apparently that opposition to violence does not apply to conservatives.  That alone tells you the real agenda right there.

These people have no real interest in getting rid of guns. What they have a real interest in is making their opposition powerless or outright eliminating them.

Inside every liberal is a psychopath screaming to get out. Gut, slaughter, butcher, imprison, and enslave are the things liberals are really all about.
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