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The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« on: October 22, 2015, 12:41:32 am »
Despicable RINO.  Unbelievable.  Of course, "W' doesn't like Cruz.  It was Cruz (solicitor general of TX at the time) that helped stop him from selling us out to the U.N. During "W"'s administration.  The Department of State was urging "W" to side with the United Nations against a case in Texas involving U.S. sovereignty and give into the World Court.  In a nutshell, then Attorney General Greg Abbot and Cruz argued not only was "W"'s proposed actions unconstitutional but they also laid out the profound consequences of ceding sovereignty to the United Nations....in the Medellin vs. Texas case.  The Supreme Court held in the Medellin case that the UN has no authority whatsoever to bind the United States.  It turns out the the Medellin case was not the only case in which Cruz litigated in the Supreme Court in opposition to the Bush administration's willingness to oppose conservatives in high-stakes litigation.

One more reason I will NOT vote for another Bush.  Especially one that is so bent on granting amnesty and continuing the open borders stance that we now have. Jeb utilizes common core to push his "liberal agenda".  We don't need another Bush in the White House.  We do not need to continue the "corruption" of the Bush dynasty nor do we need to continue the corruption of the "Washington Cartel".

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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 12:48:58 am »
Bush doesn't like Cruz for the same reason I don't like Cruz:  Cruz is a showboater, out for Cruz.  He doesn't care about you or me or anybody else.  He loves himself, first and foremost, has the arrogant notion that America just can't live without him in the presidency, and takes actions that damage his fellow Republicans.

He's not a team player. And he's realizing, now, that not being a team player in the Senate means you lose votes 98-2.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2015, 12:59:36 am »
Bush doesn't like Cruz for the same reason I don't like Cruz:  Cruz is a showboater, out for Cruz.  He doesn't care about you or me or anybody else.  He loves himself, first and foremost, has the arrogant notion that America just can't live without him in the presidency, and takes actions that damage his fellow Republicans.

He's not a team player. And he's realizing, now, that not being a team player in the Senate means you lose votes 98-2.

What a crock.  "W" doesn't like him, because he couldn't get away with selling us down the road to the U.N.  Cruz didn't let him get away with an unconstitutional corrupt maneuver.  I love the fact that Cruz isn't part of the corruption in Washington.  We don't need more corrupt politicians on our team.  We need someone who will stick up for the Constitution and the sovereignty of the United States.  We need someone who will stick up for "We the People"!  If it bothers you that Cruz is a person who stands up for the Constitution, our sovereignty, fights for the TRUTH and what is best for this country ... well... you are certainly entitled to your opinion.  Frankly, Cruz prides himself in not being a Washington insider.

As I have stated many times before.  You can either vote for someone who will continue us on our current path of destruction or you can vote for someone who will help with the restoration of America. 

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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2015, 01:05:23 am »
Bush doesn't like Cruz for the same reason I don't like Cruz:  Cruz is a showboater, out for Cruz.  He doesn't care about you or me or anybody else.  He loves himself, first and foremost, has the arrogant notion that America just can't live without him in the presidency, and takes actions that damage his fellow Republicans.

Sink? You just described every presidential candidate since Washington ....
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2015, 01:10:45 am »
What a crock.  "W" doesn't like him, because he couldn't get away with selling us down the road to the U.N.  Cruz didn't let him get away with an unconstitutional corrupt maneuver.  I love the fact that Cruz isn't part of the corruption in Washington.  We don't need more corrupt politicians on our team.  We need someone who will stick up for the Constitution and the sovereignty of the United States.  We need someone who will stick up for "We the People"!  If it bothers you that Cruz is a person who stands up for the Constitution, our sovereignty, fights for the TRUTH and what is best for this country ... well... you are certainly entitled to your opinion.  Frankly, Cruz prides himself in not being a Washington insider.

As I have stated many times before.  You can either vote for someone who will continue us on our current path of destruction or you can vote for someone who will help with the restoration of America. 




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Did you lift all that boilerplate off the Cruz campaign website? 

Haven't you had enough of a president who won't work with anybody?  Cruz is EXACTLY like Obama in his personality:  narcissistic, arrogant, No team player, willingness to inconvenience and damage other people to get his way. 

Bush likes everybody.  That he thinks Cruz is reprehensible ought to tell you something about Cruz, not Bush.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2015, 01:11:23 am »
Sink? You just described every presidential candidate since Washington ....

I don't think so. But, you're entitled to your opinion.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2015, 01:31:55 am »
Did you lift all that boilerplate off the Cruz campaign website? 

Haven't you had enough of a president who won't work with anybody?  Cruz is EXACTLY like Obama in his personality:  narcissistic, arrogant, No team player, willingness to inconvenience and damage other people to get his way. 

Bush likes everybody.  That he thinks Cruz is reprehensible ought to tell you something about Cruz, not Bush.

Nope.  Didn't lift the information off of a boiler plate in the least.  Research.  Books.  Articles.  More research.  Study of his court cases, etc.  Cruz IS a team player.  He is a team player FOR THE PEOPLE!  The president is supposed to work for the people and in their best interest.  Not in the best interest of themselves.  I don't see that Cruz has "damaged" anyone other than those who try to circumvent the Constitution for their own political agenda or gain.

Yes, the fact that Bush thinks Cruz is reprehensible speaks volumes..."W" lacks a whole lot of credibility these days.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2015, 01:36:02 am »
Nope.  Didn't lift the information off of a boiler plate in the least.  Research.  Books.  Articles.  More research.  Study of his court cases, etc.  Cruz IS a team player.  He is a team player FOR THE PEOPLE!  The president is supposed to work for the people and in their best interest.  Not in the best interest of themselves.  I don't see that Cruz has "damaged" anyone other than those who try to circumvent the Constitution for their own political agenda or gain.

Yes, the fact that Bush thinks Cruz is reprehensible speaks volumes..."W" lacks a whole lot of credibility these days.

Ted Cruz is all about Ted Cruz.  He gets to the Senate, then, fifteen minutes later, starts running for president.

Just like Obama. The actions, the personality, the resemblance is uncanny.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2015, 01:37:46 am »
Cruz got voted "sit down and shut up" by 98-2 End of case.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2015, 02:01:09 am »
Cruz got voted "sit down and shut up" by 98-2 End of case.

End of case?  Welcome to the "Washington Cartel".  Yes.  End of case.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2015, 02:19:56 am »
Sink? You just described every presidential candidate since Washington ....

Nope.  Obviously every one has some degree of personal pride/ego involved, but some are much, much worse than others.  Obama is certainly not in the same league with Reagan, for example.

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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2015, 02:23:12 am »
End of case?  Welcome to the "Washington Cartel".  Yes.  End of case.

The inside the beltway party doesn't like anyone who might threaten the game as it is currently played. Political parties be damned!
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2015, 02:26:10 am »
The inside the beltway party doesn't like anyone who might threaten the game as it is currently played. Political parties be damned!

Cruz can't threaten the game because he doesn't have more than but a few allies.  At the most he can simply be a roadblock, a negative influence, but so far he has not demonstrated any sort of constructive abilities.

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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2015, 02:45:03 am »
Cruz can't threaten the game because he doesn't have more than but a few allies.  At the most he can simply be a roadblock, a negative influence, but so far he has not demonstrated any sort of constructive abilities.

Millions of us disagree with you about that.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2015, 03:17:02 am »
Cruz can't threaten the game because he doesn't have more than but a few allies.  At the most he can simply be a roadblock, a negative influence, but so far he has not demonstrated any sort of constructive abilities.
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Cruz is a positive influence on this country, its Constitution and it's sovereignty and has argued numerous Supreme court cases and has won by adhering to and fighting for his conservative beliefs and principles.  I would say that those characteristics of Cruz demonstrates more constructive abilities than most politicians.  He may not have many allies within the Washington cartel, but he has millions of allies within "We the People" and that's what truly counts.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2015, 11:45:48 am »
Cruz can't threaten the game because he doesn't have more than but a few allies.  At the most he can simply be a roadblock, a negative influence, but so far he has not demonstrated any sort of constructive abilities.

Then, we the people need more allies like Cruz elected to congress. Because the ones we did elect, those who told us they would stop Obamacare (which was in their power to do, btw), lied and did nothing.

And yet one senator stood up and did something, while the others tucked their curly swine tails between their legs and hid. That senator was Ted Cruz keeping the promise he made.

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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2015, 12:27:56 pm »
I think I'd rather have a congress full of Ted Cruzes than one full of GWBs.  I personally think GWB was a good man.  But philosophically I have almost nothing in common with him, I am sorry to say.  Between NCLB, CFR, Medicare prescriptions, steel tariffs, Harriet Miers, the exponential growth of the deficit and debt, creating a client state for Iran with $2 trillion in taxpayer money, the bailouts and "stimulus"... My God, the man was a disaster.  No wonder OPapaDoc was able to get elected.

Conversely, I personally am not much of a fan of Cruz's personality, but Ted Cruz has taken very, very few positions I disagree with; and he has demonstrated that he will stand on principle regardless of how quixotic the effort might be.

At this point, Ted is definitely on my short list, above Rubio, Trump, Bush.  I happen to like Ben Carson better, and my heart is with Rand Paul (talk about quixotic), but we could do much, much worse than Ted Cruz.

If I was Cruz I'd treat GWBs comments as a badge of honor.  That is what Trump would do.  Let's hope TC takes political advantage of the opportunity and reminds Republicans why we hate the Bushes so much.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2015, 12:31:36 pm »
I'm still waiting on actual confirmation that 'W' said those things about Cruz. We are still reading this from a single, anonymous source to a extreme left paper that has had credibility issues in the past. No one else at the event confirmed it was said, there is no audio, no video, just one claim.

If the Texas Tribune reported the sun rose today, it is a good idea to get a confirmation on that.

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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2015, 12:35:20 pm »
Conversely, I personally am not much of a fan of Cruz's personality, but Ted Cruz has taken very, very few positions I disagree with; and he has demonstrated that he will stand on principle regardless of how quixotic the effort might be.

Thank you!

I respect Cruz. I admire him immensely. I think he'd be a good CinC (not great, but good).

I just don't like him, which is no reason not to support him wholeheartedly if he gets the nomination.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2015, 03:14:25 pm »
I'm still waiting on actual confirmation that 'W' said those things about Cruz. We are still reading this from a single, anonymous source to a extreme left paper that has had credibility issues in the past. No one else at the event confirmed it was said, there is no audio, no video, just one claim.

If the Texas Tribune reported the sun rose today, it is a good idea to get a confirmation on that.

Because Cruz has taken opposition against "W" on behalf of the Constitution, conservatives and our country, I have little doubt that be ruffled "W"'s feathers.  He is/was a thorn in the Bush dynasty side; as well as most of Congress.  Nope.  I don't think Cruz minds a bit.  He'd rather be popular with the conservatives who put him in office and be true to his conservative principles and beliefs. In other words, above all else; Cruz has integrity.  Something that is very much frowned upon by the Washington cartel.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2015, 03:25:35 pm »
Because Cruz has taken opposition against "W" on behalf of the Constitution, conservatives and our country, I have little doubt that be ruffled "W"'s feathers.  He is/was a thorn in the Bush dynasty side; as well as most of Congress.  Nope.  I don't think Cruz minds a bit.  He'd rather be popular with the conservatives who put him in office and be true to his conservative principles and beliefs. In other words, above all else; Cruz has integrity.  Something that is very much frowned upon by the Washington cartel.
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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2015, 05:29:40 pm »
Bush doesn't like Cruz for the same reason I don't like Cruz:  Cruz is a showboater, out for Cruz.  He doesn't care about you or me or anybody else.  He loves himself, first and foremost, has the arrogant notion that America just can't live without him in the presidency, and takes actions that damage his fellow Republicans.

He's not a team player. And he's realizing, now, that not being a team player in the Senate means you lose votes 98-2.

Sinkspur, you don't have a shred of evidence for the conclusions you have drawn.  I don't know why you draw these particular conclusions, but it says more about you than it does the focus of your dislike.

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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2015, 05:31:35 pm »
Millions of us disagree with you about that.

It seems to be a common mistake to only look at Cruz' tenure in a very sick and dysfunctional Senate.  He did a lot of things before he got to the Senate.

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Re: The TRUTH as to why "W" Doesn't Like Cruz
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2015, 12:41:06 am »
It seems to be a common mistake to only look at Cruz' tenure in a very sick and dysfunctional Senate.  He did a lot of things before he got to the Senate.

Exactly.  His accomplishments are quite remarkable and his love for the Constitution, this country and for it's people very obvious.
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