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Offline GourmetDan

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Deep State America
« on: September 21, 2015, 04:38:22 pm »
 
Deep State America

"Consider for a moment how Washington operates. There is gridlock in Congress and the legislature opposes nearly everything that the White House supports. Nevertheless, certain things happen seemingly without any discussion: Banks are bailed out and corporate interests are protected by law. Huge multi-year defense contracts are approved. Citizens are assassinated by drones, the public is routinely surveilled, people are imprisoned without be charged, military action against “rogue” regimes is authorized, and whistleblowers are punished with prison. The war crimes committed by U.S. troops and contractors on far-flung battlefields, as well as torture and rendition, are rarely investigated and punishment of any kind is rare. America, the warlike predatory capitalist, might be considered a virtual definition of deep state."

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"It’s amazing how obvious it all ought to be, given all the evidence. It’s not even a fantastical conspiracy theory, because the outlines are all reported credibly if in fits and starts. The reason we find it hard to accept, and only come to realize it grudgingly, is because most of us want it very much not to be the way things have become."


"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." - Ecclesiastes 10:2

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Re: Deep State America
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2015, 07:02:33 pm »
Yesiree. Crony capitalism is the glue that keeps the wheels of the economy and the society rolling, come democrat or republican, war or peace.

Like it or not, it is the truth.

The article points out that Petreaus is now a partner in KKK, but fails to mention Cheney's years OUT of government, heading Halliburton, when he accumulated seven figure wealth.

The glue is largely non-partisan, hence contributions to both parties.

But historically it has worked. It is better than any other system known to mankind.
"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

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Re: Deep State America
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2015, 07:25:34 pm »
Eisenhower was a regular Nostradamus.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Deep State America
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2015, 12:19:28 am »
Eisenhower was a regular Nostradamus.
No doubt he foresaw the military-industrial complex.

But what about the health care-support industries complex? Or the financial services complex? Or the police-prison industrial complex?

There is plenty of money to be made from attaching your prospects to government, and lobbying the heck for things. The "war on drugs" builds prison populations, which benefit prison builders, operators, union employees, etc.

Government paid medical benefits doctors, nurses, other workers, plus equipment, suppliers, not to overlook Big Pharma.

Take a look at those involved with government bonds. Govt. employees themselves, lawyers, accountants, security firms, brokers, mutual funds, etc. Lot of high paying jobs involved, plus some huge commissions and fees.

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Re: Deep State America
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2015, 12:53:30 am »
Yesiree. Crony capitalism is the glue that keeps the wheels of the economy and the society rolling, come democrat or republican, war or peace.

Like it or not, it is the truth.

The article points out that Petreaus is now a partner in KKK, but fails to mention Cheney's years OUT of government, heading Halliburton, when he accumulated seven figure wealth.

The glue is largely non-partisan, hence contributions to both parties.

But historically it has worked. It is better than any other system known to mankind.

But it is essentially the same system that was Rome, Imperial Britain, Pre-Revolution France, the Kaiser's Germany...and Hitler's Germany...all of these used what we call today Crony Capitalism with their own variations put on top, some of those variations were kinder to the people, some were not.  In truth, the only systems of note that strayed from this has been Soviet Russia and Mao's China - there's was truly different and far less successful.
Well, George Lewis told the Englishman, the Italian and the Jew
You can't open your mind, boys, to every conceivable point of view

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Re: Deep State America
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2015, 12:53:59 am »
No doubt he foresaw the military-industrial complex.

But what about the health care-support industries complex? Or the financial services complex? Or the police-prison industrial complex?

There is plenty of money to be made from attaching your prospects to government, and lobbying the heck for things. The "war on drugs" builds prison populations, which benefit prison builders, operators, union employees, etc.

Government paid medical benefits doctors, nurses, other workers, plus equipment, suppliers, not to overlook Big Pharma.

Take a look at those involved with government bonds. Govt. employees themselves, lawyers, accountants, security firms, brokers, mutual funds, etc. Lot of high paying jobs involved, plus some huge commissions and fees.

There's a lot more money in fascism than there is in communism.  Eisenhower saw that in Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and by extension, Imperial Japan.  All that concentration camp slave labor and prison camps in Asia.  It has all come to fruition.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Deep State America
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2015, 12:55:29 am »
Ain't that some shit.  Three people coming to the same conclusion from points on the spectrum.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Deep State America
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2015, 05:06:33 am »
There must be a rather obvious truth in there...
Well, George Lewis told the Englishman, the Italian and the Jew
You can't open your mind, boys, to every conceivable point of view

...Bob Dylan